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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:57:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Anyone care to bet on whether IsBoxer will suddenly be made against EULA If that happens I will unsubscribe the 9 accounts I just signed up for. 10 ship Exequror sniper gang coming up.
Please do. Playing ten characters simultaneously and in synchronization is, imo, cheating. It's extra DPS from one player using one command. I have just as many accounts as you and I do not use multiboxing software. I also find it rather annoying to see 20 mining characters in a belt being controlled by a single person in an NPC corp. I think most people intuitively find people who use this software to be (insert expletive). CCP really should make it against the EULA, but for whatever reason, they haven't...so enjoy your advantage and feel awesome because you've created a 10x multiplier for each command you use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:20:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:You have just completely shown your ignorance. Since you obviously have no idea what your talking about because you haven't done it, like with most people who think you press one button and its instantly perfect "cheating", you would know you really can't synchronize well in this game.
I'm very well versed on this subject matter. Just because it requires some tweaking to get it right doesn't mean I'm wrong. And if you were being honest right now, you wouldn't dispute a thing I said. You have been given the okay, so why deny it?
Sabotaged wrote:No MMORPG has made it illegal. That tells you that *YOU* and people like you are wrong. The real reason is you and people like you are jealous of people who can afford so many accounts.
That's hilarious...
Do a search on Eveboard for "rswfire" -- each character that is returned is a separate, active account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 04:42:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:No their success depends on having 10 accounts. Same as mine. The difference between your two scenarios is in one a person is making the decision to fire on a target vs a computer algorithm mindlessly activating an attack based on a set of predetermined variables.
This isn't true. I have 10 accounts. And I cannot control them in the same manner as you without using botting software, which I would not do. It's just that simple. You have a 10x multiplier for every attack you make. I don't know why this is even disputed. It's just a simple fact. Whether you agree with using this software or not, why deny this? If I had a fleet of 10 people, they would not respond exactly as you because it's 10 humans instead of 1.
In that scenario, many people say the humans would have the advantage; I don't know as I've not fought a fleet of botters. I've watched people use this software to clean out belts, to quickly rat, etc. I've never actually seem it used in combat. Some scenarios are okay to me, some not. In general though, I just see it as cheating. You're not individually controlling each of your characters; to me, that's just intuitively wrong. I welcome that we don't all agree on this and you're welcome to your point of view and I'm not trying to attack you in any way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 05:21:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I use a wireless mouse and keyboard and have my PC attached to a large screen high res LCD TV. The mouse and keyboard communicate though an IR dongle. Would you agree that when I click on my weapons to fire I am doing so manually. Now what if I have 10 computers one wireless mouse and keyboard and 10 IR dongles? I'm running 10 characters. When I click my weapons the signal is sent to all 10 dongles and all my accounts fire. I'm still manually firing.
IRBoxer is the same. I can't get it too do anything automated without braking EULA. All I can do is replicate exactly my mouse clicks. If I have 5 snipers, a tackler, and a couple off RR and I set my tacklers to orbit all my ships will attempt to orbit. Not good. I can only do very basic things like fire. With some smart setup of module placement I can get my ships to activate scram, web, nuets, and fire simultaneously but it's nowhere near the capability of 10 real pilots whose ships can behave independently of eachs others GUI.
Everything you said is true and I don't disagree with it. You do have to keep your setups exact or be pretty creative in your placement of modules. That's why I say it's a 10x multiplier. As for the first paragraph, at first I thought it was leading in the same direction a lot people argue ("but what if I had 10 computers?") I can't really argue with what you said; it is technically sound, and therefore not disputable. It still doesn't make it right though, imho. I do see this as cheating, but it's just my personal point of view. For you, it's obviously not. We'll never agree as a result because there's just no middle ground on this subject, and that's okay. It's sanctioned activity so you're automatically on the winning side of this argument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:33:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Aaah. Someone is mad about not being able to pay for multiple accounts for himself.
ISBoxer is allowed...It doesn't change or interveres with the client.
What kind of argument is this you guys are throwing around? I've already disproved it. I don't like ISBoxer and I happily give CCP over $150 a month. Ask yourself this before posting: If I disagree with a post, can I reply to it constructively and with a rational argument? If the answer is no, you're probably better off skipping the response. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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