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Sturmwolke
404
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:45:00 -
[2011] - Quote
World of Tank launcher - 36Mb memory footprint, disappears completely afterwards. Fast, no nonsense.
CCP Eve launcher - 124MB memory footprint + 7MB bootstrap, becomes an undead at 107MB after you manually kill it. It is also slow and feels laggy.
Need I say more? The fact that you need to run a bootstrap program to get the launcher working is what we call an over-engineered solution that will be prone to breaking. In other words, your launcher has will have so many process weak spots that you can pretty much throw robustness out of the window. |
Crazy Dave
SCAVENGERS
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:46:00 -
[2012] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:Page 100 BOOM! headshot motha-fuqa! Snipaaaaaaah!
Also confirming that CCP has failed hardcore on QA for this little tidbit of an update. A small piece of advice:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
That is an anchient chineese saying. One that fits. What was wrong with the old one. It worked great. I click it, log in, play. what else do I need it for? Now I can't log in, play, or do anything else.......Except lose profit cause I cant mine..........Im busy living in reality because CCP couldn't test a program before releasing it.......I noticed they took the pissed off or mad as hell face from the list of faces. |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
79
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:46:00 -
[2013] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote: To expand on this point, there are a number of exotic setups for multiboxing involving either multiple physical installs of the game, hybrid symlinks, junctions, soft links, hard links, partial copies and more. And in almost every single case people multi box for one reason: to be able to have individual setups for their settings, or to hasten the login flow. The deployment today, as difficult and bad as it was (for which I apologise) was to deploy the single sign on service, through which we can start to work on these issues. My hope is that in the end, you will be able to log into the EVE Launcher once, which downloads your settings from the cloud, with all of your accounts linked, via either a single EVE master account or via some other OAuth provider, and be able to select characters and switch between them at the click of a single button.
This solution may be fine for some cases. The main advantage of using multiple installs/junctions etc. is to maintain independent settings on a per-client basis, not per-account.
For example, I have a main install and a junction of that install. The main install is setup to run with high graphics settings, the junction at minimal. This allows me to quickly and easily choose the level of graphical fidelity I wish to use for that client according to my needs at that particular time, which usually depends on the number of accounts and duration of their use.
Please detail how I would be able to perform such a choice of multiple sets of client settings for each account under the new/proposed single sign-on with cloud settings.
In addition, how would cloud settings affect the use of clients on multiple computers? Exchange the junction client in my example above with a client on a laptop which barely runs Eve even at minimal settings. |
ngaly
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:50:00 -
[2014] - Quote
I have like 20 accounts. I will use the ExeFile as long as it works. For now I wonGÇÖt spend time trying to figure out the best way to log in multiple accounts using the new launcher. However, I would like to let you know how I used to log in multiple accounts with the old launcher:
I have a separate junction for each account. On my desktop I have a separate link to each junction named after the respective account name. When I wanted to start letGÇÖs say 5 clients I clicked the 5 respective links. The launcher was configured to automatically start the client and close the launcher. If no update was available clicking the 5 links opened 5 clients in window mode with the correct account names already selected. While the clients were loading (takes about 5 seconds because of my SSD) I moved the windows into the correct positions. I then proceeded to enter the password and to press enter in each client. When I finished entering the password in the fifth account the first account finished loading the character selection screen. Finally I logged in the characters.
In short: click 5 links, move 5 windows, enter 5 passwords and press enter, click on five character portraits.
Important facts: The old log in procedure doesnGÇÖt require me to wait for a loading bar at any point, it doesnGÇÖt require me to enter or select anything but the password and it allows me to have a separate settings folder for each client.
CCP Atropos wrote:My hope is that in the end, you will be able to log into the EVE Launcher once, which downloads your settings from the cloud, with all of your accounts linked, via either a single EVE master account or via some other OAuth provider, and be able to select characters and switch between them at the click of a single button.
This sounds great. Can you give us an ETA? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5141
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:50:00 -
[2015] - Quote
Lord Haur wrote:Please detail how I would be able to perform such a choice of multiple sets of client settings for each account under the new/proposed single sign-on with cloud settings. I'm sure this would be possible to do. Saying anything else would at this point merely be speculation. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
KevinFlynnn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:51:00 -
[2016] - Quote
This is garbage. The EVE login screen was great, so was the music/splash with each new expansion... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5141
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:52:00 -
[2017] - Quote
ngaly wrote:I have like 20 accounts. I will use the ExeFile as long as it works. For now I wonGÇÖt spend time trying to figure out the best way to log in multiple accounts using the new launcher. However, I would like to let you know how I used to log in multiple accounts with the old launcher:
I have a separate junction for each account. On my desktop I have a separate link to each junction named after the respective account name. When I wanted to start letGÇÖs say 5 clients I clicked the 5 respective links. The launcher was configured to automatically start the client and close the launcher. If no update was available clicking the 5 links opened 5 clients in window mode with the correct account names already selected. While the clients were loading (takes about 5 seconds because of my SSD) I moved the windows into the correct positions. I then proceeded to enter the password and to press enter in each client. When I finished entering the password in the fifth account the first account finished loading the character selection screen. Finally I logged in the characters.
In short: click 5 links, move 5 windows, enter 5 passwords and press enter, click on five character portraits.
Important facts: The old log in procedure doesnGÇÖt require me to wait for a loading bar at any point, it doesnGÇÖt require me to enter or select anything but the password and it allows me to have a separate settings folder for each client. You can do exactly the same thing now, except instead of having the junction point to the launcher, just have it point directly to exefile.exe. If there's an update the client will say incompatible protocol, so you'll have to run the launcher to update, but after that you can use the exefile. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
Count Edmond
Deep Space Mining Co. DSMC
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:14:00 -
[2018] - Quote
saying it fixed for some reason it not even loading for me at all click on short cut on desktop eve.exe in the folder same with eve.exe (Safe Mode) and EVE Online Launcher looks like its loading but then nothing at all not even show it runing in Task Manager. not error no nothing at all that comes up.
Running windows 8 64 bit 12 GB for ram 8350 core
Also they only way that i can run it is ExeFile.exe.
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Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:14:00 -
[2019] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:ngaly wrote:I have like 20 accounts. I will use the ExeFile as long as it works. For now I wonGÇÖt spend time trying to figure out the best way to log in multiple accounts using the new launcher. However, I would like to let you know how I used to log in multiple accounts with the old launcher:
I have a separate junction for each account. On my desktop I have a separate link to each junction named after the respective account name. When I wanted to start letGÇÖs say 5 clients I clicked the 5 respective links. The launcher was configured to automatically start the client and close the launcher. If no update was available clicking the 5 links opened 5 clients in window mode with the correct account names already selected. While the clients were loading (takes about 5 seconds because of my SSD) I moved the windows into the correct positions. I then proceeded to enter the password and to press enter in each client. When I finished entering the password in the fifth account the first account finished loading the character selection screen. Finally I logged in the characters.
In short: click 5 links, move 5 windows, enter 5 passwords and press enter, click on five character portraits.
Important facts: The old log in procedure doesnGÇÖt require me to wait for a loading bar at any point, it doesnGÇÖt require me to enter or select anything but the password and it allows me to have a separate settings folder for each client. You can do exactly the same thing now, except instead of having the junction point to the launcher, just have it point directly to exefile.exe. If there's an update the client will say incompatible protocol, so you'll have to run the launcher to update, but after that you can use the exefile.
no need for ssoToken ? |
Ripblade Falconpunch
State War Academy Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:17:00 -
[2020] - Quote
Contributing absolutely nothing of value to this threadnaught, except voicing my opinion that this new launcher is the absolute suxorz for numerous reasons that have already been covered.
Also, it looks like a bag of smashed assholes. Fire whoever did the graphics design AND whoever built it / thought it was a great freaking idea to break something that wasn't broken. |
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Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
14
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:25:00 -
[2021] - Quote
Why the hell would you patch the launcher in such a way that it wiped out all the account settings that I had? I really don't want to go through all my accounts resetting everything back the way I want it.
All for a stupid change to the launcher? Who do you have working in QA? Monkeys?
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Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:26:00 -
[2022] - Quote
Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:Contributing absolutely nothing of value to this threadnaught, except voicing my opinion that this new launcher is the absolute suxorz for numerous reasons that have already been covered.
Also, it looks like a bag of smashed assholes. Fire whoever did the graphics design AND whoever built it / thought it was a great freaking idea to break something that wasn't broken.
The graphics were pretty bad, even the old launcher looked better. |
Jysella Halcyon
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:27:00 -
[2023] - Quote
Major regression. When we say we want to switch characters without having to log in again, we were generally envisioning the "Log Off" button returning us to the character select screen, not this SSO BS which makes it take EVEN LONGER to switch characters on the same account, much less F-ing over any sort of multi-boxing setup.
Your best move here is to rewind the launcher to what you had. |
Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
14
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:30:00 -
[2024] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Regarding missing EVE settings: this is a bug in the initial installer of the new update that people had to upgrade from the old Launcher to the new one. The installer automatically starts the EVE Launcher after the update, but does so with what's known as a short Windows path. A short path is in the style of EVE-ON~1 or PROGRA~1. In this instance, the working directory in this short format is inherited by the EVE client which then tries to make a unique folder name based upon the directory it thinks it is in, and the server it is connecting to. This is the unique location that your settings are stored in.
Note, this folder still exists.
To work around the issue, you simply need to restart the EVE Launcher and any clients that it started. The new instance of the EVE Launcher will not have this short path, and so what would have been an (incorrect) path of c_builds_eve-on~1_tranquility is correctly interpreted as c_builds_eve-online_tranquility.
I'm currently working on a fix for this installer, when not answering forum threads, and I'm hoping to get it out as soon as I can.
This needs to be in a sticky somewhere right on the splash screen. Not hidden in the middle of a feedback thread. |
Crazy Dave
SCAVENGERS
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:30:00 -
[2025] - Quote
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Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
416
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:39:00 -
[2026] - Quote
Fail on so many levels, beginning with resetting settings over and over again when your "update" works to not being able to play the game I pay for when it doesn't.
Would be a bit upsetting if the was a free to play open source game, as it is it's not just costing me isk ingame, I am losing time that I pay REAL money for. Which seems to be ignored again and again by CCP.
Have you ever comsidered a radical new concept...maybe call it "Beta Testing" ????? Or maybe a test server ???
Oh wait.......... Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |
Axefork
MUMBL Auxiliary You Failed the Mumble Test
6
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:41:00 -
[2027] - Quote
Focus fire on that super star destroyer! Oh wait it's just a thread. |
Vito Tattaglia
Shinigami Miners Insidious Associates
120
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:50:00 -
[2028] - Quote
I'm helping the threadnaught!
http://9.asset.soup.io/asset/3077/5961_3789.jpeg |
Ehronn
Nutz N Boltz
19
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:50:00 -
[2029] - Quote
I was able to get my settings back!
in Windows 7 I went to C:\Users\[name]\Appdata\Local\CCP\EVE
then noticed the launcher created a NEW Tranquility folder titled Tranquility_1
so I went into my old Tranquility folder and then into Settings folder then copied everything in there
then I went into the NEW Tranquility_1 folder and into it's settings folder and pasted the file from the original Tranq folder.
I click yes to replace
then once I launched eve my settings were back to normal.
Luckily the patcher worked for me it just seemed to erase my settings, overview, chat, etc. But I was able to get them back by manually copying from the old Tranq folder in the above location and overwriting the new settings in the new folder the new launcher created.
Maybe that will help some get their settings back. |
Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
341
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:53:00 -
[2030] - Quote
This...
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Forum signature removed by Empress Jamyl as instructed by God Tò+püä jamyl sarum tÜçsÉÄpâ¬péñpâû |
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Cevin North
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:55:00 -
[2031] - Quote
Dear CCP,
you may claim to have fixed this issue but in fact it is not fixed for all users. Probebly only those running widows can use your client, but those running linux sure a shell can nnot run the game trough the launcher becouse the login part of the launcher simply does not show and stays blank.
It would be nice to know what resources you are using now, that you have not used before (like specialised fonts) so we can install these to get the game working we pay you so dearly for.
Telling linux users to use windows will get lots of laughter, but yeah..... |
Nyalana T'zam
Federation Fleet Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:57:00 -
[2032] - Quote
I can play and my training queue is empty....
When is this going to be fixed? And can I have 1m sp plz? kthxbai |
Mimulouse
Anti-Social Enterprises CAStabouts
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:59:00 -
[2033] - Quote
I see nothing useful here unless the goal was to unnecessarily complicate the login and start-game process. If that was the goal, success. As far as making Eve better, failure.
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Pyfintlyn Lukqplm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:01:00 -
[2034] - Quote
Oy! Have none of you ever worked with the release of a major software upgrade. Yes, of course it sucks that there are issues. I agree. But the amount of whining and complaining is remarkable. If you get this mad about a game, I would hate to be there when your car breaks down or your flight is late. Chill people. Chill |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1877
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:06:00 -
[2035] - Quote
Valeria Crossroads wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Valeria Crossroads wrote:The launcher only remembers the last 7 accounts. I have way more than that. I really hope you guys do not expect me to type the account names over and over again. How many accounts do you have? 12, I have 28 chars. Most are lab rats/factory monkeys. I normally play with 3 or 4 accounts at the same time, up to 9 max. I have come across people who have more accounts than me. 20 is the highest I remember. Some of these are from people who make a living out of training up chars or are heavy industry like me. There was a guy in alliance who had 45. And someone got 100 accounts for ice mining. So the record is at least 100. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Sturmwolke
405
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:10:00 -
[2036] - Quote
Pyfintlyn Lukqplm wrote:Yes, of course it sucks that there are issues. I agree. But the amount of whining and complaining is remarkable. If you get this mad about a game, I would hate to be there when your car breaks down or your flight is late. Chill people. Chill No, you've got the wrong approach.
With CCP, if they do a misstep, you need poke them all over with needles and torch them to ash (figuratively speaking of course) to hammer down that they need better polish and better fundamentals when releasing something. The longer they burn, the better.
That's the only way to really motivate them. Historically and now.
P.S I'm not a bad guy tbh, just more pragmatic
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Samwise Potato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:18:00 -
[2037] - Quote
Dear CCP:
No thank you.
Please give us back the old laucher. |
Smite Mueller
Die Schar des Schwarzen Herzogs
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:22:00 -
[2038] - Quote
Just restarted EVE Client...
Launcher re-updated, was offline, restarted, "worked"....
STILL!!! This bugdate killed all my settings. overviews, and so on on all my accounts. Restarting any crappy CCP software fixed nothing.
Logging alt chars in is ****** painful, as the CCP masterminds aren't aware, that one ir two players have more than one account...
CCP! Congratulations, u messed up more than ever...
Hopefully, someone responsible for outsourcing reads this thread.... |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Sons Of Alexander AL3XAND3R.
523
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:29:00 -
[2039] - Quote
Makari Aeron wrote:I'm honestly surprised that you launched the new launcher when all the launcher threads for the test server still had so many bugs. I expected this to launch after Odyssey because of all the problems TBH. And I kinda wish you did. I've been playing for almost 20 months. When has CCP ever listened to test server feedback? Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5141
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:32:00 -
[2040] - Quote
Finde learth wrote:no need for ssoToken ? I could be wrong, but the ssoToken appears to just be a parameter passed to the client to let it know what account is being used and to bypass the login screen. If the client doesn't receive an ssoToken it will simply show the login screen and you can log in normally. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
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