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Oliver G
G Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:36:00 -
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Di'zz wrote:The launcher is written in Python. WHY??? It uses up 100MB of RAM, thats 600MB for all my accounts. So now I have to manually close the goddam thing?
Actually one of the better questions asked. I have no clue why they must write everything in python. Maybe that is the language they have the most experience with. |
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CCP TheRambler
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:36:00 -
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Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner.
If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way.
This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690
Thanks! |
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Nervon
HaveItYourWay Corp
5
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:37:00 -
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If they want to know how many accounts i have...
1> ask 2> what happened to that 'master account' thing? I would rather have a master account where I can manage all my accounts under 1 place.
oh, it has been getting harder for me to play these days. i have gone from 12 paid accounts to 7
stop spending so much time on DUST EVE is what made you
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
488
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:38:00 -
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CCP TheRambler wrote:Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690Thanks!
as posted in the sisi feedback topic
the auto play button is a bit better I guess but there is no focus on the password box STILL(extra clicks, you lied) and it still has issues remembering account names. restart still dosnt work, guess the client and the launcher don't talk to each other that well, same with log off. put these button back in a working order please(otherwise extra clicks are required, you lied again)
funny if the server is starting up, you get the old login screen still. I do hope that stays as that means we can still by pass this thing OMG when can i get a pic here
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Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
288
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:38:00 -
[2345] - Quote
CCP TheRambler wrote:Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690Thanks!
with the greatest respect, that has probably fixed something which is at the bottom of the list of things that needed doing. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
641
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:39:00 -
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Well, I tried logging out and back in several times using the new launcher, but I did not get my settings back. Setting up the UI is a PITA, I hate having to redo it every expansion. Why should a customer have to understand game programing, what files to copy and restore, just to be abler to play your game with less frustration.
Many gamers do not know these basics, others just can not be bothered. Besides, considering tampering with the program files may be considered an EULA violation, why would you make it necessary in order to avoid this frustration. How can the same developers make such an incredible game, and at the same time make such stupid mistakes and oversights?? |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
82
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:40:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen.
That's what it was intended to do.
Log Off = quit game, reboot client to login screen. Quit Game = quit game, close client. |
Malou Hashur
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:42:00 -
[2348] - Quote
CCP TheRambler wrote:Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690Thanks!
Does it fix this problem:
Quote:So....the new launcher.
I always mult-box and do not particularly want to have muliple instances of the launcer open just sitting there after I log on. So, I select the "close launcher after log on" option, just like I did with the old launcher....
BUT....when I want to swap characters on the same account, there is no longer a logoff button, only a quit game button. So now I have to re-launch the new crappy launcher, instead of just of the client automatically going back to the logon screen.
If not keep at it and get it sorted asap
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9498
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:45:00 -
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Agreed, proper multi client support is an important feature. Back in the day, we used to have to start two clients to log in twice, but if we're going to have a launcher at all, rather than just directly starting the client, then it really should support multiple logins.
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
3876
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:49:00 -
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No Alibi wrote:Hell, I would like it to remember my password as well (as an option) Yes. Seems to be working. Will we have to accept the EULA every time??? First time logging on, all settings were gone. Relogged and they were returned. .
The EULA should not appear every time. Apparently a localization backend update accidentally prompted players to have to re-accept the EULA after today's downtime but from here on you should only have to re-accept when we make changes to the text which shouldn't be a common thing. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
488
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:52:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Agreed, proper multi client support is an important feature. Back in the day, we used to have to start two clients to log in twice, but if we're going to have a launcher at all, rather than just directly starting the client, then it really should support multiple logins.
I currently run with 8 client installs to make my gaming experience smooth. different settings for each client, monitor allocations etc etc.
so now im expected to keep 8 launchers open just incase I want to swap between toons on those accounts or i have to swap to 1 client, loose the bulk of my client specific settings and have the launcher only remember 7 account names.
like wtf ccp OMG when can i get a pic here
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GoodSamaritan
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:53:00 -
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This. Is not. An improvement.
THIS. IS NOT. AN IMPROVEMENT.
Why, with the myriad of things that DO need fixing would you go out of your way to "improve" something that worked?
Now excuse me while I go improve on the wheel by adding a flat side.
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cosmiclown
Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:53:00 -
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This is such a pain in the ass. Not being tech savvy its a total waste of time trying to log into eve for a couple of days after EVERY patch. And seeing as my launcher closes (and will not start up again with out me rebooting my pc) every time it the client starts I cant run my second account. |
Fonac
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:53:00 -
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CCP TheRambler wrote:Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690Thanks!
Hey an idea to help improve the dual account / dual screen setup, would be to let the launcher what screen to start up on, depending on the account..
Example; i got two accounts. If i write log in on fonac, it will start on my main screen. however i log in on my alt(let's call it fonac2) Then it will start on the 2nd screen.
I had hoped this was introduced, by as it is right now i'm forced to use two clients instead of one.
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
191
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:53:00 -
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CCP TheRambler wrote:If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. So in essence you fixed a minor annoyance, but all the glaring log-in time extending multiple account forbidding log-in screen demolishing faults are still there?
Eh.......
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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AndromacheDarkstar
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
757
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:56:00 -
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CCP TheRambler wrote:Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690Thanks!
I'm not sure you read all the feedback, or maybe got the wrong message because this isn't the biggest of the issues. The thing is we had a system that was immersive, attractive and worked very well so why was it changed. A roll back or an explanation of why this happened would have been a much better start. Also making it clearer you understand what you have done is actually bad. Join the ZC Pub chat channel today and talk about joining-áZebra corp, hands down the best PVP corp in EVE keeping CFC killboards in the green singlehandedly |
Par'Gellen
232
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:57:00 -
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Lord Haur wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen. That's what it was intended to do. Log Off = quit game, reboot client to login screen. Quit Game = quit game, close client. Hehe this brings up an interesting point. What did CCP Atropos think the button was for if not exactly what she described? CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto... |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1322
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:57:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The EULA should not appear every time. Apparently a localization backend update accidentally prompted players to have to re-accept the EULA after today's downtime but from here on you should only have to re-accept when we make changes to the text which shouldn't be a common thing.
Thank you for updating us on this ONE issue. I did notice that I don't have to accept the EULA every freakin' time I log in starting this morning, so thanks.
May I humbly suggest a public read-only trouble ticket board for players to look at that can show us when reported issues (not just bugs, but issues such as those reported in this thread) are addressed INTERNALLY? Letting your PAYING userbase watch internal progress for problems reported by users goes a LONG way to customer satisfaction (which translates into good PR and cash for the company)... "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Roshhan HOA
Eques De Apocalypticum
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:58:00 -
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I cant even get the launcher to load., I re-downloaded and installed the game, cleared the cache and tried the repair tool. Nothing... |
Danny Centauri
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:58:00 -
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Why would you remove functionality I now have two big pains in the ass: 1) Logging in multiple accounts and multiboxing sucks, why the hell the old login screen had to go god knows. I used to login multiple accounts at the same time a lot faster than I can now. 2) The logoff button in the game client is gone, I have a lot of indy alts and used this to log one out and log back in to the same account. I could be doing this one 3 clients at once logging in and out of each in turn.
Seperate the launcher from login again please. EVE Manufacturing Guide - Simple guides to manufacturing in EVE for both beginners and more experienced players. |
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Malou Hashur
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:59:00 -
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I saw a quote in someones sig earlier. It sums up CCP's outlook perfectly:
If it works, break it. If it's broken, ignore it.
Priceless |
Par'Gellen
232
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:03:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:Malcanis wrote:Agreed, proper multi client support is an important feature. Back in the day, we used to have to start two clients to log in twice, but if we're going to have a launcher at all, rather than just directly starting the client, then it really should support multiple logins.
I currently run with 8 client installs to make my gaming experience smooth. different settings for each client, monitor allocations etc etc. so now im expected to keep 8 launchers open just incase I want to swap between toons on those accounts or i have to swap to 1 client, loose the bulk of my client specific settings and have the launcher only remember 7 account names. like wtf ccp I am also baffled as to why something called "Single Sign-On" would now actually require multiple instances of itself in order to allow multiple sign ons...
LOL! Leave it to CCP to do something like that :D CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto... |
Onion Ring
Black-Wing
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:05:00 -
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It is still not working for me.
This is all i get on the left side of the new launcher:
Error -7 when loading url https://login.eveonline.com/oauth/authorize/?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&lang=en&response_type=token&redirect_uri=https://login.eveonline.com/launcher?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&scope=eveClientToken |
GodOfCarnage
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:05:00 -
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Congratulations! My Macbook workhorse that has never ever crashed in 5 years has done so 3 times today already. What caused this? Opening EvE client. I bypassed the launcher and opened the game file. Instant crash! Launcher leaves me with a black screen. File a bug report? How can I?
I pay $30 a month to play this, and that money does not come from a surplus but a budget. This is my relax and entertainment fund I set aside. I took a year off last time because of Incarna and I hope I dont have to again until you fix this.
Note: I really don't feel like reading replies such as "Mac is crap" or Get a real computer". Those are the kind of responses I would expect from an immature teenager. I don't bash your choice of computer, so please be respectful. |
Jysella Halcyon
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:05:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen.
Generally, this is because we want to switch characters on the same account or switch accounts. Both require restarting the client (neither should really need this step anyway). So one of your programmers some ages ago gave us lemons (the log off button that just restarts the program) and we've made lemonade (using it as a faster way to restart the client than quit -> click shortcut).
Don't complain about us using a button to do what the button does rather than what it should do. If "Log Off" actually just logged off like it says on the tin this would not be an issue. |
MarKand
Aimonme Technology
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:08:00 -
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This could be the most useless feature ever implemented in EVE, ofc most of us understand the drive behind sso many mmo-¦s liek to create vitrual synergies with thier product, but as a user, this is really one giant step back. When logging in becomes an issue and a "job", I as a user dont really want to log in.
I also know all these non-constructive posts are flashing by the eye as developer, so I will leave a little word from the early days of development, in the days we only had Assambler and C was a hype :)
KISS,,, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
Yes, I am to old to like progress, everything was better in the old days ;)
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Ransu Asanari
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
9
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:09:00 -
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I'm glad that the long term plan includes better support for multi-boxing, and storing account settings on the server. Considering the frequent promotions to encourage alt accounts like "Power of Two" and "Start a Sidekick", I'm surprised this hasn't been addressed earlier to be properly supported, rather than everyone hacking their clients to make it work. Please make this a priority, as the current state of the launcher makes multi-account use very difficult.
For now, I've completely skipped the launcher to avoid the issues, and am launching the ExeFile.exe directly. |
Par'Gellen
232
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:09:00 -
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Jysella Halcyon wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen. Generally, this is because we want to switch characters on the same account or switch accounts. Both require restarting the client (neither should really need this step anyway). So one of your programmers some ages ago gave us lemons (the log off button that just restarts the program) and we've made lemonade (using it as a faster way to restart the client than quit -> click shortcut). Don't complain about us using a button to do what the button does rather than what it should do. If "Log Off" actually just logged off like it says on the tin this would not be an issue. THIS THIS 1,000,000,000 times this!!!
Put the log off button back and just make it take us to the character selection screen for that account. Fixed and done. CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto... |
Alicina Goodbody
Posique Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:10:00 -
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Jysella Halcyon wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen. Generally, this is because we want to switch characters on the same account or switch accounts. Both require restarting the client (neither should really need this step anyway). So one of your programmers some ages ago gave us lemons (the log off button that just restarts the program) and we've made lemonade (using it as a faster way to restart the client than quit -> click shortcut). Don't complain about us using a button to do what the button does rather than what it should do. If "Log Off" actually just logged off like it says on the tin this would not be an issue.
Do you have to restart the launcher to get the client to reset? I do. |
Par'Gellen
232
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:12:00 -
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Alicina Goodbody wrote:Do you have to restart the launcher to get the client to reset? I do. We do now. Before you could just click Log Off and the client would auto-restart back at the login screen for the same account. CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto... |
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