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Nic Seedaeng
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:50:00 -
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I am on my second week of playing EVE, doing level 1 missions now and being sent around now to 3 different stations. I now have items and ships scattered around these 3 areas now. I am a bit confused on the strategy to use. Relocate everything to one place of choice? leave things around? how to move place if you have many ships? What is the general way to approach this problem? Thanks Nic |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:30:00 -
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On the PVE side, when I find a station with agents I will be using awhile, I spend one session gathering up all my stuff and bringing it to that station.
If you are packrat or hoarder, you can put everything in a container and contract the move. |
Sarina Berghil
New Zion Judge Advocate
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:55:00 -
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Training industrial ships is handy for pretty much any kind of pilot. Just a few levels will do. An industrial is a small cargo ship, I like to compare it to a coaster. They are easy to train for and are quite cheap, although in the first few weeks it might be a substantial investment.
For moving ships, frigates, destroyers and cruisers can be moved in an industrial ship, just repackage them first. This will destroy any rigs, something to keep in mind when fitting new ships. For anything larger than a cruiser you will need to fly them manually, you can add cargo expanders to low slots to add some cargo capacity for moving around. I like to fill the cargo up with ammo and drones when I move to another mission hub.
An industrial will also help carrying your loot to a trade hub.
Players with a lot of skillpoints and money sometimes use the Orca for moving. It's a ship for supporting mining operations, but it has a bay for holding assembled and fitted ships, and a reasonable cargo capacity.
When moving stuff in big slow ships, stay away from low-sec if you can. Cargo ships are sitting ducks. In high-sec try to fight the urge of turning on auto-pilot and going AFK, that can be a temptation for suicide attacks. |
Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:00:00 -
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Industrials and shuttles. Fly the indy over with a bunch of shuttles. fly a shuttle back. move a ship. fly a shuttle back. repeat until you have to use the indy to bring all the shuttles back. That's if you're moving insured or rigged ships that you don't want to repackage. (or use your pod. riskier, as you might get randomly podded. Shuttle gives you that /little/ extra protection. Or a rookie ship)
Alternatively, contract the move with someone like Red Frog Freight. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.21 07:51:00 -
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Nic Seedaeng wrote:I am on my second week of playing EVE, doing level 1 missions now and being sent around now to 3 different stations. I now have items and ships scattered around these 3 areas now. I am a bit confused on the strategy to use. Relocate everything to one place of choice? leave things around? how to move place if you have many ships? What is the general way to approach this problem? Thanks Nic
Personally I don't bother much with having all stuff in exactly one location; when I move systems I generally take only my ship of choice and the essential items (ammo, etc.) Of course, it leads to an extremely cluttered assets window in the long run.
The posts above contain excellent information on the whole logistical aspect (thanks guys!), but training industrial ships is a good idea in any case; it doesn't take long and they are invaluable in many situations.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Mar Drakar
LDK Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.21 08:16:00 -
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ISK, you want your stuff in the most liquid and easy to move form - ISK.
Also - TRASH THINGS TRASH what you cannot sell or reprocess, DONT leave **** behing, it will be "forever stuck" there and foreveralone. And your assets will become a hellhole. Trust my 6 years of runnin places and leaving **** in stations made me bitter. Now I have like gazzilion records in assets window, and half of them are in stations on the other end of the world and some null sec station.... you don't want this, you want ISK, also when you grow into carrier - have only that much stuff that fits into carrier ship bay (fitted ships) and corporate hold (modules, ammo, exotic dancers), do not encumber yourself. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.21 08:17:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:Nic Seedaeng wrote:I am on my second week of playing EVE, doing level 1 missions now and being sent around now to 3 different stations. I now have items and ships scattered around these 3 areas now. I am a bit confused on the strategy to use. Relocate everything to one place of choice? leave things around? how to move place if you have many ships? What is the general way to approach this problem? Thanks Nic Personally I don't bother much with having all stuff in exactly one location; when I move systems I generally take only my ship of choice and the essential items (ammo, etc.) Of course, it leads to an extremely cluttered assets window in the long run. The posts above contain excellent information on the whole logistical aspect (thanks guys!), but training industrial ships is a good idea in any case; it doesn't take long and they are invaluable in many situations.
Yeah, I sorta do it like that.
Basically I'll set up one station in the area as my 'Base of Operations'. This will be where all loot and supplies are stored. It's helpful but doesn't necessarily have to be the same station where the agent is located. When I move to a new agent, I just take my combat ship and munitions. Then I set up another 'Base of Operations' in the new area. If I need a different ship, such as a mining ship, I'll use a shuttle to go get it. I do this for all new areas that I go to.
After a while, maybe every couple of months, I'll use an Industrial ship to collect up all the loot at the various 'Base of Operations' I have set up and take the loot to a 'Main Base' set up in one of the major Trade Hub systems like Rens. There I'll separate the loot. The low Meta level modules are reprocessed into minerals and stored for manufacturing. The high Meta level modules, lv 3 and lv 4, are either sold or stored, depending on the module. |
Louis deGuerre
Malevolence. Void Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.21 08:18:00 -
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I have a main base in each of the four empires, either in a trade hub or near a good mission agent. If it is valuable enough to store I move it there. But you have to think as well 'how much is my time worth ?'. If the slow travel time to move a ship would effectively be better spend making isk and just buying a new ship near your new location, just sell the old ship (or put it up for sale if no good offers are available) and, travel fast in a shuttle and buy a new ship on location. In addition I have temporary bases whereever my current endeavours take me (lowsec, 0.0). Once every while I do a little clearing up. No matter how neat you try to be stuff will have a nasty habit of getting spread around.
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Cailais
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.10.21 09:12:00 -
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Ah the eternal problem of 'too much stuffs'.
Long term I would suggest training up those trade skills so you can sell items 'at a distance' and make some ISK out of those spare bits left lying around. If, however, you're like me and think 'I may just need that T1 Afterburner one day...' then its worth grabbing a hauler and doing a quick sweep round.
Personally I have thousands of items distributed across EVE - including ships. I'm often amazed to dock in a system I can't recall ever having visited only to find a ship sat there waiting for me to collect it!
Red Frog Freight are also excellent at what they do - they move stuff, fast and without hassle; well worth getting in touch with them.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.10.21 09:21:00 -
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As you can see, there are several alternatives.
Once again - Industrials are to handy for everyone not to have one. Fit the mids with Shield Expanders and an Invulnerability Module and the Lows with Cargo Hold expanders. Turn on the Invul. module each time you warp and you've got some modicum of protection unless you're hauling something really expensive. Don't put AB's on an Indy that is just jumping from system to system - use that PG for the Shield Expanders.
On moving ships that were to big for my industrial - one thing I have found handy was to buy a shuttle blue print - that way - I can simply carry the trit and the blue print with me if the ship I'm transferring doesn't have a large enough hold for a shuttle. I can then recycle the shuttle and (with a little more trit) carry the trit I get around with the shuttle BPO again.
Alternately - you can sell the shuttles.
As to having crap scattered all over EVE - if you have the range of operations to do it - you can right click on things in your Assets window and sell them - or you can trash them remotely as well. I'd sell things before I'd trash them. If the price is low enough someone will usually buy it - and a low price is better than the nothing you're going to get from trashing them.
In your Main Base - you can buy Station Containers that really hold a lot of stuff - and use these to sort your things into - but - realize that you won't be able to see inside the container from a remote location to determine if you own something or not. Thus - leave the stuff you think you might want to use in your items hangar and put the junk in Station Containers (which are also located in the Items Hangar unless you're part of a corporation that has corporate hangars). You won't be able to move the Station Container ... except maybe with a Freighter - so if you move your operations and don't think you'll be back - just sell it.
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Ines Tegator
Project ELT
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Posted - 2011.10.21 09:58:00 -
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If you have more then will fit into a hauler, or don't/can't fly haulers, as an alternative to the above just list everything up for sale and buy new stuff at your destination. It's a small loss, but a gain in time spent and convenience. This works good if your moving long distance.
Also, in regards to managing your stuff, I suggest keeping a backup "home base" somewhere... so that if the impossible happens, and you lose everything, you still have that trusty old cruiser and l3 agent to fall back on instead of just a rookie ship and begging in local. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:39:00 -
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Toshiro GreyHawk wrote: In your Main Base - you can buy Station Containers that really hold a lot of stuff - and use these to sort your things into - but - realize that you won't be able to see inside the container from a remote location to determine if you own something or not. Thus - leave the stuff you think you might want to use in your items hangar and put the junk in Station Containers (which are also located in the Items Hangar unless you're part of a corporation that has corporate hangars). You won't be able to move the Station Container ... except maybe with a Freighter - so if you move your operations and don't think you'll be back - just sell it. .
You can do a 'view contents' on a station container, remotely.
Just not search for stuff (I think).
The downside to them, really, is you can't move them between stations. and you can't trash them until three weeks after you last used them. It's not much clutter, but it inflames my OCD |
Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.10.22 13:41:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Toshiro GreyHawk wrote: In your Main Base - you can buy Station Containers that really hold a lot of stuff - and use these to sort your things into - but - realize that you won't be able to see inside the container from a remote location to determine if you own something or not. Thus - leave the stuff you think you might want to use in your items hangar and put the junk in Station Containers (which are also located in the Items Hangar unless you're part of a corporation that has corporate hangars). You won't be able to move the Station Container ... except maybe with a Freighter - so if you move your operations and don't think you'll be back - just sell it. .
You can do a 'view contents' on a station container, remotely. Just not search for stuff (I think). The downside to them, really, is you can't move them between stations. and you can't trash them until three weeks after you last used them. It's not much clutter, but it inflames my OCD
Hunh ... I'll have to check that. Most of my experience was with smaller containers so the station containers may be different ...
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.22 14:06:00 -
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Toshiro GreyHawk wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Toshiro GreyHawk wrote: In your Main Base - you can buy Station Containers that really hold a lot of stuff - and use these to sort your things into - but - realize that you won't be able to see inside the container from a remote location to determine if you own something or not. Thus - leave the stuff you think you might want to use in your items hangar and put the junk in Station Containers (which are also located in the Items Hangar unless you're part of a corporation that has corporate hangars). You won't be able to move the Station Container ... except maybe with a Freighter - so if you move your operations and don't think you'll be back - just sell it. .
You can do a 'view contents' on a station container, remotely. Just not search for stuff (I think). The downside to them, really, is you can't move them between stations. and you can't trash them until three weeks after you last used them. It's not much clutter, but it inflames my OCD Hunh ... I'll have to check that. Most of my experience was with smaller containers so the station containers may be different ... ??? .
GP to this post is right, station cans (the million m3 ones) are too big to fit in anything (IIRC, it's a 1:1 space-size ratio, unlike other cans that are a few hundred m3 bigger on the inside). |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.10.22 14:38:00 -
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Toshiro GreyHawk wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Toshiro GreyHawk wrote: In your Main Base - you can buy Station Containers that really hold a lot of stuff - and use these to sort your things into - but - realize that you won't be able to see inside the container from a remote location to determine if you own something or not. Thus - leave the stuff you think you might want to use in your items hangar and put the junk in Station Containers (which are also located in the Items Hangar unless you're part of a corporation that has corporate hangars). You won't be able to move the Station Container ... except maybe with a Freighter - so if you move your operations and don't think you'll be back - just sell it. .
You can do a 'view contents' on a station container, remotely. Just not search for stuff (I think). The downside to them, really, is you can't move them between stations. and you can't trash them until three weeks after you last used them. It's not much clutter, but it inflames my OCD Hunh ... I'll have to check that. Most of my experience was with smaller containers so the station containers may be different ... ??? . You can do a 'view contents' of any container or ship remotely to see what is in it. But, as stated above those things won't turn up with a 'search.'
3d party app like jEveAssets is good for locating specific items that might be inside a container, so that you don't have to do a 'view contents' of every GSC or freight/station container or ship cargo hold.
To the OP: after three years I have assets in about 100 stations. Every once in a while I try to go pick stuff up, but I get bored or distracted after a while. I finally went through and trashed the twenty or so rookie ships the other day. A region-wide buy order for drone material when I was a young pup was a big contributor to my problem.
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