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Mr R4nd0m
Ministry Of Mining And Industry Shit.Happens
21
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:01:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you actually typed all that.
lol this is a typical response from you. This is why no one likes you or mittani or goons. There has now been many posts that show people have zero respect or tolerance or support for you guys. Leave now and resign, might have some dignity left.
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Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
524
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:30:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Vile rat wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you actually typed all that. lol this is a typical response from you. This is why no one likes you or mittani or goons. There has now been many posts that show people have zero respect or tolerance or support for you guys. Leave now and resign, might have some dignity left.
Are you going to keep posting dumb troll posts/threads or are you going to make some kind of effort of any type to advance issues that'd improve the game?
If you have issues you'd like addressed about the state of the game contact me offline. If you think our representation hasn't worked for you, contact me and let's chat about it. I don't expect you to, I think you're just trolling. |
Mahakaharashi RedEagle
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.23 01:05:00 -
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Just look at this... annoying little nobody, Vile rat, and his general attitude. And he's also in CSM, imagining that he's doing there God knows what - but probably something *very important* Could be funny (in a dumb sort of way), only if it wasn't actually sad.
I do hope that CCP is finally opening their eyes after years of hibernation and that CSM is soon to be permanently disbanded, never to come back. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.10.23 01:43:00 -
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Harm Pit wrote:It is clear that these "individuals" who inhabit the CSM will not take that route. They need to be sacked. NOW. Hilmar.. get shot of them!
Clearly getting the CSM shots is a valid response. Look at Darius 3 -- Rabies. Very tragic.
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C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
2
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Posted - 2011.10.23 06:38:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Taxtro Grave wrote:White Tree wrote:Satav wrote:
Typical goon, intelligent and constructive...................... (sarcasm).
As opposed to the typical counter-argument against the CSM which is based on assumptions and always addressed with a pre-determined series of negative opinions usually rooted in a basic misunderstanding of what the CSM actually is. I love it when people use big words to confuse and dazzle us with their oh-so-superior vocabulary. Yeah, words like 'misunderstanding' and 'assumptions'. Here's some big words for you: Shut up. /thread |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1450
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Posted - 2011.10.23 11:05:00 -
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Mahakaharashi RedEagle wrote:Just look at this... annoying little nobody, Vile rat, and his general attitude. And he's also in CSM, imagining that he's doing there God knows what - but probably something *very important* Could be funny (in a dumb sort of way), only if it wasn't actually sad. I do hope that CCP is finally opening their eyes after years of hibernation and that CSM is soon to be permanently disbanded, never to come back.
if you banned npc corps from posting in jita park like you do caod, this thread would be 2 pages long~ |
Velyks
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
4
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Posted - 2011.10.24 09:46:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Mahakaharashi RedEagle wrote:Just look at this... annoying little nobody, Vile rat, and his general attitude. And he's also in CSM, imagining that he's doing there God knows what - but probably something *very important* Could be funny (in a dumb sort of way), only if it wasn't actually sad. I do hope that CCP is finally opening their eyes after years of hibernation and that CSM is soon to be permanently disbanded, never to come back. if you banned npc corps from posting in jita park like you do caod, this thread would be 2 pages long~
Maybe this board would completly die out like COAD then as well. (We can only hope)
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destiny2
Sickle Moon Intrepid Crossing
12
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:41:00 -
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Ive never voted once heck i dont even vote in RL
but as players the players that did vote for these CSM ppl to be CSM
so those who voted yet now are complaining about it . you cant blaim anyone but yourselfs. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
137
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Posted - 2011.10.24 12:34:00 -
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Mahakaharashi RedEagle wrote:Lharanai, this ingame voting would not be voting for some new CSM, because we don't need that. CSM is inneficient, complicated, slow, corrupted, biased, it represents only a small minority of CCP's customers, and beside that it's also suffering from serious flaw you described very well: "few hardcore players voted by few hardcore players".
Client-built polls should be held on regular bases, containing series of relatively simple, clear but DIRECT questions related to future development of the game as well as to usual everyday happenings all around New Eden. Do you like this, why don't you like that, what of the things listed you would like to see in next expansion, rate this, rate that... stuff like that.
Sure plenty of people would just click and close that window poping up on login but that's still light years ahead of current voting for this silly flying circus called CSM. Procedure is simpler, requires little time, and MUCH more paying customers would get a chance to voice their opinion.
Only potential problem I see is with CCP and their readiness to ask right questions, also to make ALL poll results public for everyone to see and draw some conclusions.
Polls are useful for finding out people's preferences and what they want. They're too impersonal for having any kind of meaningful game balance discussion.
People, in general, are selfish. Give them an impersonal poll and they'll vote for what they want, not what's "best" overall. Thousands of opinions get reduced down to raw numbers and then have to be interpreted. Some value can be gained from that, sure, but it can't replace the CSM.
The CSM is a group of actual people that are passionate about the game. They're quite likely to know about a variety of game mechanics and gameplay styles because they're so passionate, and because they are "hardcore players" as you put it. That's a good thing.
These are the types of people that you can have a meaningful discussion with, face to face, and both bounces ideas off of, and get ideas from. Meeting in person allows you to form a judgement and opinion of these people and the value of their ideas that you cannot get just from either an opinion poll or purely written conversations. If someone is just purely a troll with no useful ideas or value to the CSM, CCP and the other CSM members will be able to tell and disregard their input. If someone is just a blowhard that somehow manages to persuade enough people to vote for them, but is really on a single-minded agenda, they also can be listened to with a grain of salt and/or ignored.
We've seen a little of both on the CSM - useful, intelligent folks that are passionate about the game and want to improve it as a whole, and the self-serving blow-hards or silver-tongued devils that talk a good game to the public but end up violating the rules or getting ignored once on the counsel. The election of a couple bad members does not invalidate the entire counsel.
Either way, the population of Eve gamers is to blame for who gets elected. The democratic election process gives you a chance to evaluate the usefulness of each individual CSM member. THAT is your chance to make a difference and cast a positive vote. Vote for the person you think will best represent your concerns and be a useful member of the discussions in Iceland.
This part is important, so I'll say it again:
The entire population of Eve players is responsible for who gets elected to the CSM.
Not voting just says you don't care who represents you. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |
Lharanai
Empyrean Guard Seventh Vanguard
19
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:45:00 -
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Difficult....as english is not my native language it seems that I have trouble to communicate what I mean,
I do not blame the CSM, they represent the players which voted them, might be an assumption, but I believe the majority of the voters are hardcore players.
I am concerned about the future of CCP as they provide US with a product we like hardcore or casual players alike, I hear it so often "if you don't vote, don't complain", as I am reading the forums, I am not longer a real casual player because these will never be here. Fact is, CCP needs the casual players, where do you think the PLEX hardcore players are using for their accounts are coming from, they don't grow on trees.
Another assumption I know, but I assume the casual players which don't have the time but the RL money are the majority, bringing PLEX into the game. And now I come back to the problem as I see it,
These Casual Players will never read the forums, they will not vote because they are not interested in politics in a game, Yes EVE is a game and a product, and like it or not the hardcore players need them, not for ingame stuff, but for the revenue they are bringing to CCP.
EVE is a product, and I consider all forum readers/posters as fanboys in different fanclubs with different agendas, but and that is my fear CCP cannot survive based on its fans alone, it needs the buyers who just pay for a good product, and if it is not longer good, because of bad marketing strategies or changes in the product they chose something else WITHOUT writing a letter to the company.
Summary CSMs are valuable, they represents a PART of all EVE players, and in general they do a good job (but hell don't expect more from them then from our RL politicians, actually I think they are far better then our RL masters)
Real casual players don't have a voice and don't want a voice, but if they are unhappy with the product EVE they leave
CCP needs casual players for the revenue
hardcore players need casual players for the PLEX
It is a difficult balancing act, as I assume again, we all don't want EVE to become too casual, hell I don't want WOW in space.
My suggestion is still addressed to CCP, as they need a tool to hear the silent casual players, and the ingame survey was just a suggestion, bring on something better, but please stop that nonsense "if they don't vote their fault" and accept that there are players bringing revenue to CCP who don't give single penny about mine or your opinions, as they will never read the forums. Touch my **** and I will **** your **** with an rusty **** and **** into your ****, and then I will **** your **** until you ******************** |
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Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
419
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Posted - 2011.10.25 04:50:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:You're right, but all indications are you are only out for yourselves. What has the CSM done for the players of high-sec or WH space other than try to destroy our fun and ability to enjoy the game? Name a single example of the CSM destroying your ability to have fun in highsec.
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Big Bad Mofo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2011.10.25 12:07:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:You're right, but all indications are you are only out for yourselves. What has the CSM done for the players of high-sec or WH space other than try to destroy our fun and ability to enjoy the game? Name a single example of the CSM destroying your ability to have fun in highsec.
thats a trick question right? |
Zephyrus II
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2011.10.25 13:31:00 -
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The goons are destroying your ability to have fun in high sec.
I don't see CSM influence here. |
WhyTry1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:35:00 -
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Zephyrus II wrote:The goons are destroying your ability to have fun in high sec.
I don't see CSM influence here.
So you miss the mittani link then? |
BiaXia
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:53:00 -
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There is totally a CSM link when goons destroy mining barges
I saw mittens blow up a mining barge and he was all "WHAT I AM DOING TO YOU IS A CSM SANCTIONED EVENT THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF I WAS NOT THE CHAIR OF THE CSM" |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
439
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:58:00 -
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Big Bad Mofo wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:You're right, but all indications are you are only out for yourselves. What has the CSM done for the players of high-sec or WH space other than try to destroy our fun and ability to enjoy the game? Name a single example of the CSM destroying your ability to have fun in highsec. thats a trick question right? Absolutely not. I want to see just a single example of how the CSM has destroyed anybody's ability to have fun in highsec. It should be easy considering the amount of howling going on.
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Zephyrus II
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2011.10.26 02:25:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Zephyrus II wrote:The goons are destroying your ability to have fun in high sec.
I don't see CSM influence here. So you miss the mittani link then?
I see The Glorious Leader ganking people in high-sec as the CEO of the Goons. I don't see the Chairman of the CSM doing it. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2011.10.26 04:10:00 -
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Even if the entire CSM was ganking miners in highsec it doesn't mean they are ruining the game. Ganking miners in highsec isn't against the rules. |
Thredd Necro
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.28 20:09:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:Vile rat wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you actually typed all that. +1 for confirming OP's concerns.
This +1 |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
40
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Posted - 2011.11.01 12:50:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you actually typed all that.
It smells like balls around here.
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
40
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Posted - 2011.11.01 12:53:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:Vile rat wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you actually typed all that. +1 for confirming OP's concerns.
"Give 'em enough rope..." All the easier when the ones you're looking to give the rope to are so pathetically predictable and easily-lead: This is supposed to be the "elite?" Thank you, not for me...
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Lyrrashae
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Posted - 2011.11.01 12:55:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Rocky Deadshot wrote: It would be nice to see CCP move into more open and 2way talk with the CSM through video conferences on perhaps a monthly basis. We talk to CCP on a daily basis, not monthly or weekly.
So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are?
Not something I'd look to pad the CV with, mate, but I suppose it takes all kinds...
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Mortis vonShadow
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:02:00 -
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Lyrrasha wrote: So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are?
No, it means the CSM and CCP get to spend more time laughing at you. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:08:00 -
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Bring Stabity wrote:I love transparently corrupt electoral mechanisms that leverage apathy
Fixed that for ya, mate.
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Lyrrashae
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:21:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:As I relaxed in the aftermath of a time-dilated fight where supercaps didn't rule the day and lag didn't determine the outcome, I browsed a rack of podkills with implants, spun my recently rebalanced hybrid-gunned ship, and typed off a poorly-thought-out ragepost about how the CSM was irrelevant, because I'm literally a big babby who has no idea what he's talking about.
I then went off to enjoy a bunch of new spaceship-related content that CCP produced after they finally acknowledged that focusing on FiS instead of WiS was the right thing to do!
And we should all bow to you, because you are the sole architect of this turn-around, and deserve all the credit you're so subtly trying to slurp up in this, and umpty-eight other threads.
Get real, get over yourself, and get the **** out, you pompous, deluded man-child.
Vile Rat and a few others on this incarnation of CSM have earned a certain respect from me, but you are the embodiment of everything that's wrong with the CSM, and nullsec.
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Lyrrashae
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:38:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Hratli Smirks wrote:basically Avon I'm saying you were a member of a group of cheaters so you would not recognize moral or ethical distinctions hth I feel some vague sympathy for Avon, since Goonswarm has kicked him around the galaxy for four+ years without respite. But it's a shame that he's taking his misplaced rage on behalf of BoB and trying to spite the CSM as an institution, merely because he and his lot were torn apart by a gaggle of newbies in rifters. You could always come after us again, Avon. It's worked out so well for you and yours in the past. Fifth time's a charm? But do leave the CSM out of it.
This is why you are such an odious little creature.
Small-minded, arrogant little kid-ult twerp using the background of 120 people getting their livelihoods destroyed to e-peen stroke over 4-5 year-old rivalries in a video-game.
What a small, empty, vicious little bag of shite you are.
Please die soon.
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Lyrrashae
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:44:00 -
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Avon wrote:
Yeah, that's how this thread went down. I'm sure people are totally unable to check if your revisionist version matches the posts.
^^This.
You do realise, though, that you're trying to argue. On an Internet forum. Against Goons. Talking about pointless!
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Lyrrashae
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Posted - 2011.11.01 14:51:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:Lyrrasha wrote: So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are?
No, it means the CSM and CCP get to spend more time laughing at you.
If CCP laughing at me in some way leads to a better product/service--that I pay for--then I'll happily be the lampshade-on-head guy forever more, because I truly do love EVE that much. Often despite CCP, not because of it.
The CSM and/or their brazenly obvious fanboiz/sock-puppets laughing at me, on the other hand, is quite perfectly meaningless, as, despite their hilarious attempts to ***** all credit for CCP's recent turn-around, the CSM is irrelevant. And all this pathetically desperate credit-whoring of late tells me that they know this.
They've (arguably) served their purpose, now it's time to call an actual mechanic instead of the local SnapOn Tools dealer, as this old banger needs more help to keep from throwing a rod through the block than the latter is willing/able to provide.
TL/DR:
I don't deny that the CSM has been useful now, and in the past--I'm probably willing to cut them a lot more slack in that regard than most, actually--but their usefulness to the playerbase as a whole is--quite obviously IMHO--reaching its' end. And I find their death-throes...amusing.*
*Schadenfreude: It's my anti-drug!
EDIT: Sleep-deprived grammar- and clarity-fail, as I don't brain good in the morning. I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Mortis vonShadow
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Posted - 2011.11.01 17:13:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:
And we should all bow to you, because you are the sole architect of this turn-around, and deserve all the credit you're so subtly trying to slurp up in this, and umpty-eight other threads.
Get real, get over yourself, and get the **** out, you pompous, deluded man-child.
Vile Rat and a few others on this incarnation of CSM have earned a certain respect from me, but you are the embodiment of everything that's wrong with the CSM, and nullsec.
**** off!
Several things:
First off the Mittani didn't say HE got these changes implamented. He admits it was the work of the entire CSM.
Secondly, since he is the leader of the Goons, he has to be a pompous deluded man-child.
And lastly, when you start cursing others over the internet on a forum, it makes you look small and belittles your arguement.
Do us all a favor and use facts in this debate, not raw emotion. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Mortis vonShadow
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Posted - 2011.11.01 17:21:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:
Please die soon.
You do realize that a player was recently banned for stalking the Mittani in and out of game, right?
This phrase right here, with the recent events that have happened as of late, probably not the brightest of remarks.
I understand your frustration and the like at the CSM in general, and the Mittani and Goons specifically, but again, you are a bigger person than this. And degrading your debate down to this level leaves you no room to be take seriously any longer.
The Mittani isn't your enemy. CCP's bad business decisions are. CCP is back tracking to insure your gaming experience is going to get better, so, relax, sit back and give it time. CCP is coming around. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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