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Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:08:00 -
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[EVE client installation folder]\bin\ExeFile.exe. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:45:00 -
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Something very odd is happening in this thread.
Celri says the post above his was put up while he was typing and yet there is over an hour difference between the timings. |
Celri Remantoire
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:18:00 -
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well I didn't see it and I am pissed.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:19:00 -
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Celri Remantoire wrote:well I didn't see it and I am pissed. I wasn't suggesting that you did see it - far from it.
The indicated time of your post shows that you made it at least 30 mins before it appeared on my screen - I was refreshing at intervals of between 5 and 10 mins at the time and made my post within a couple of minutes of reading yours.
As I said - something odd going on. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:19:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:So those of us who have no launcher will eventually have no option other than to quit EVE? What do you mean you have no launcher? Are you implying that you bypass it by choice, that it doesn't work on your computer or something else? If it's a bug I'd very much like to help fix that, if it's a dislike of the design or direction we're taking with it, I'll listen to your concerns, and if it's something else, then I'll just respond to that when I know what it is On re-reading this thread I have only just noticed your reply - apologies for not spotting it previously.
When I said I have no launcher I meant exactly what I said - I have no launcher.
After downtime on 21 May I clicked my launcher shortcut and after the patch had apparently run its course the old launcher loaded. I thought that was odd, but carried on. I started both my active accounts, did a bit of maintenance and then logged out.
When I logged in again later I got a new launcher screen with login fields on the left. I again logged in both accounts and played for a while, then both accounts were abruptly disconnected. When I tried to reconnect, the left-hand side of the launcher screen was blank.
I ran the repair tool but it failed and when I tried the launcher shortcut again nothing happened. So I ran the launcher direct download from the link posted in the other (now locked) thread but this also failed and clicking my launcher shortcut still failed to produce any response.
So I have no launcher at all and my only way of playing is via the Bin/ExeFile.exe route. |
Hagbard Solaris
Omega Eternal
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:22:00 -
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I don't know why this didn't occur to me before, but the launcher is owned by CCP ATROPOS! Atropos was one of the three fates of Greek mythology. Specifically, she was in charge of Cutting The Thread! Atropos was the Fate who determined When A Person Would Die and The Method Of Their Death! CCP Atropos introduced the new Launcher to Eve subscribers. Has CCP Atropos decided to follow in the footsteps of her namesake and determined that Eve as we know it must die? Has CCP Atropos determined the new Launcher is the method to Kill Eve as we know it? Is this why she said that the Exefile.exe login method, the only way many players can currently log in, will be removed? You must answer these questions for yourselves, but as for me, I am keeping my Tinfoil Hat firmly in place until I actually see the bugs in the current launcher fixed. It's been over a week and the launcher is still leaving Zombie processes behind, so I hold little hope for the future. CCP Devs --áhere is your Participation Trophy Now grow up and realise that in the real world, people-ávalue results, not participation. |
Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:22:00 -
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I understand there are a list of bugs that needs to be fixed so certain people can actually log in again.
But many can log in and play the game.
For me personally the "BUG" is the DESIGN, PERFORMANCE and functionality of the launcher.
CCP ATROPOS keeps requesting bug reports to figure out the issue regarding the launcher (makes sense), but you cant submit data reports on crappy player expirience. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
243
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:27:00 -
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Niding wrote:I understand there are a list of bugs that needs to be fixed so certain people can actually log in again.
But many can log in and play the game.
For me personally the "BUG" is the DESIGN, PERFORMANCE and functionality of the launcher.
CCP ATROPOS keeps requesting bug reports to figure out the issue regarding the launcher (makes sense), but you cant submit data reports on crappy player expirience. Don't worry, Atropos has avoided any uncomfortable questions regarding the launcher the whole thread. As soon as we stop asking about the launcher design, CCP will assume we already love it.
We won't.
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
304
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:16:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Niding wrote:I understand there are a list of bugs that needs to be fixed so certain people can actually log in again.
But many can log in and play the game.
For me personally the "BUG" is the DESIGN, PERFORMANCE and functionality of the launcher.
CCP ATROPOS keeps requesting bug reports to figure out the issue regarding the launcher (makes sense), but you cant submit data reports on crappy player expirience. Don't worry, Atropos has avoided any uncomfortable questions regarding the launcher the whole thread. As soon as we stop asking about the launcher design, CCP will assume we already love it. We won't. I still want all feedback on the EVE Launcher and it's user experience; if people stop talking about it, it doesn't mean they're magically feeling great about it, it simply means they're not talking about it. The lengthy feedback threads, and my full EVEMail inbox, are still there, and the points people made need to either be acknowledged and worked on, or acknowledged and dismissed. I'll consider the matter closed when people start posting "I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome!" or threads/posts/EVEMail to that effect. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
21
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:18:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:Niding wrote:I understand there are a list of bugs that needs to be fixed so certain people can actually log in again.
But many can log in and play the game.
For me personally the "BUG" is the DESIGN, PERFORMANCE and functionality of the launcher.
CCP ATROPOS keeps requesting bug reports to figure out the issue regarding the launcher (makes sense), but you cant submit data reports on crappy player expirience. Don't worry, Atropos has avoided any uncomfortable questions regarding the launcher the whole thread. As soon as we stop asking about the launcher design, CCP will assume we already love it. We won't. I'll consider the matter closed when people start posting "I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome!" or threads/posts/EVEMail to that effect.
Good
I hope that implies that exefile startup method wont be revoked until that point in time...? I know we keep harping on about this workaround to the launcher, but it cant really be emphasised enough. If you sampled my log in and log out history within the timeframe of 1 hour I think you would be shocked just how often I open and close clients between the accounts attached to my email adress. Which is why a fast and seamless starting of client is extremely important for a large portion of EVE.
If not, then its a moot point, just sayin |
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Power Armor
Omega Boost
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:28:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Niding wrote:
CCP ATROPOS keeps requesting bug reports to figure out the issue regarding the launcher (makes sense), but you cant submit data reports on crappy player expirience.
Don't worry, Atropos has avoided any uncomfortable questions regarding the launcher the whole thread. As soon as we stop asking about the launcher design, CCP will assume we already love it. We won't.
/signed
I'd like to keep a well-themed login screen that i can dual use as desktop background for the changing seasons of EVE Online.
The bright mind who came up with SSO should think it over and reduce it to Double Sign On. One for all web-related stuff and one for the game itself.
It will just double or triple the downtime of EVE over the year as you have more points of failure. The web services have far more hiccups than the game servers and with SSO you are going to need both soon.
The new launcher is also filled with information i do not need when starting the game. It feels like a big ad-sign i am forced to pass for a game i already pay for. Prevents immersion before the game has even started.
These usability changes together with the unified inventory and the planned change of the EVE iconbar from vertical to horizontal makes you think if there is no real ergonomic QA available at CCP. The planne radial menu of odyssey points in the same direction unfortunately. There is just so much space you have in a circle before it comes unclickable. And if you introduce a second radial or popups, then it gets weird and uncomfortable with many icons to learn. Why not keep a simple text list?
It is just a shame where this is all going.
Why not cancel all that usability stuff and put the manpower into great and new game mechanics or even incarna where you could connect the game more with dust players? |
Power Armor
Omega Boost
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:31:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote: I'll consider the matter closed when people start posting "I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome!" or threads/posts/EVEMail to that effect.
I ran the OLD Eve Launcher and while it was not awesome, it was acceptable.
I ran the ExeFile.exe and the iconic EVE logon screen is awesome.
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
304
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:08:00 -
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As per the news item here, we've deployed an updated EVE Launcher version that includes fixes to several issues that many of you might be experiencing. If for some reason you are unable to update via the selfupdate mechanism, please download the installer from here. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
245
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:09:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:Don't worry, Atropos has avoided any uncomfortable questions regarding the launcher the whole thread. As soon as we stop asking about the launcher design, CCP will assume we already love it.
We won't.
I still want all feedback on the EVE Launcher and it's user experience; if people stop talking about it, it doesn't mean they're magically feeling great about it, it simply means they're not talking about it. The lengthy feedback threads, and my full EVEMail inbox, are still there, and the points people made need to either be acknowledged and worked on, or acknowledged and dismissed. I'll consider the matter closed when people start posting "I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome!" or threads/posts/EVEMail to that effect. Your words do try to give the impression that you understand. So far, I haven't seen such an understanding expressed in action.
When your words and actions are mutually exclusive, I'll take your actions - not your words - as your actual intention.
Until then, I find it hilarious that you say that points should be acknowledged and either worked on or dismissed. So far, I haven't seen you acknowledge ANY design flaw. Working on the bugs so that people are actually able to log in is the most important thing right now, but it should not be the only thing. Can you actually acknowledge that there are design flaws with the new "launcher"?
I'm still waiting for that. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4145
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:21:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:I'll consider the matter closed when people start posting "I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome!" or threads/posts/EVEMail to that effect.
Then please implement my suggestion + mock screenshots I posted at the beginning of the thread. Or similar other suggestions, which invariably lead to a vastly more streamlined and user friendly clients launch experience. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Texty
State War Academy Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:40:00 -
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Quote:Fixes to shutdown issues on Windows XP/2000/Server 2003 Thank you. No more duplicated launcher.exe processes :) |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
536
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:07:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As per the news item here, we've deployed an updated EVE Launcher version that includes fixes to several issues that many of you might be experiencing. If for some reason you are unable to update via the selfupdate mechanism, please download the installer from here.
First I can verify that at least the XP issues are gone (yes I use XP at the office).
But note that the launcher has to restart once it has been updated, which it can't by itself (since the old updating one will still be stuck).
So: - Start the launcher - Let it update and wait until it appears to close itself. - Kill the stuck launcher processes (hopefully for the last time). - Start the launcher again.
If you want to be certain, exit the launcher and check that it isn't leaving stuck processes behind.
And if it still does, file a bug report.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Oliver G
G Enterprises
15
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:09:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As per the news item here, we've deployed an updated EVE Launcher version that includes fixes to several issues that many of you might be experiencing. If for some reason you are unable to update via the selfupdate mechanism, please download the installer from here.
Well, I can confirm that (on WinXP) successfully logging into the game or closing the launcher does now terminate the launcher as expected. |
Aghira
Systech Astromantics Shipyard Inc.
35
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:26:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As per the news item here, we've deployed an updated EVE Launcher version that includes fixes to several issues that many of you might be experiencing. If for some reason you are unable to update via the selfupdate mechanism, please download the installer from here.
Passwordfield still loses focus when taskswitching... Es wird niemals so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, w+ńhrend des Krieges und nach der Jagd. (Otto von Bismarck)
english is not my native |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:36:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:As per the news item here, we've deployed an updated EVE Launcher version that includes fixes to several issues that many of you might be experiencing. If for some reason you are unable to update via the selfupdate mechanism, please download the installer from here. Still no launcher.
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Dorijan
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:16:00 -
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I'm not reading a 31 page thread just to catch up so sue me if this has been brought up before: When logging in with multiple accounts -- why anyone would ever want to do something like that in EVE Online is beyond me -- via the new launcher does not store all usernames in the dropdown list. Only the first one is shown upon restarting the launcher. |
Nick N'Pow
AsHu Science Department
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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Texty wrote:Quote:Fixes to shutdown issues on Windows XP/2000/Server 2003 Thank you. No more duplicated launcher.exe processes :) Yes. It now looks at least so that it works.
I still get loaded two processes, but they know how to close!
Apart from this, one is still very overloaded for a launcher, and memory usage is not typical! Is just a typical advertising software but not aggressive! |
ELOW CEO
ELOW Provisioning
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:56:00 -
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well as someone who regularly runs multiple clients and necessarily switches characters not infrequently
i am not at all seeing much benefit or help to using it at all
if it doesnt integrate multiple account management and character switching
its just another piece of a bothersome puzzle one has to solve before starting the game
almost like the way our heads are going to get jerked off our necks every time we use a jump gate in odyssey huh |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
626
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:34:00 -
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I ran the new EVE Launcher today, and it was awesome! Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Paessi Mikakka
Frozen Dawn Academy Arctic Light
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:51:00 -
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This **** wont work. even repair exe dont start....... |
Cevin North
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
16
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:09:00 -
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Paessi Mikakka wrote:This **** wont work. even repair exe dont start.......
This application should start if you launch it directly. from the EVE folders
program files/ccp/eve/repair.exe or for 32 bit machines. program files (x86)/ccp/eve/repair.exe or for 64 bit machines /home/username/.wine/drive_c/ see above for the rest of the path For Linux 32 and 64 bit machines
(sorry i dont know macintosh)
The manual way to add the latest patch is described above by the Dev. |
Lone Gunman
Forhotea Corporation
23
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:32:00 -
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Dorijan wrote:I'm not reading a 31 page thread just to catch up so sue me if this has been brought up before: When logging in with multiple accounts -- why anyone would ever want to do something like that in EVE Online is beyond me -- via the new launcher does not store all usernames in the dropdown list. Only the first one is shown upon restarting the launcher.
As has been stated multiple times, Disable "Close the EVE launcher after starting EVE Online" and the usernames will be saved.
As for being sued, consider yourself served. |
Whitehound
1459
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:56:00 -
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The repair tool and the launcher still have different opinions on what makes a client installation.
Repair.exe keeps finding missing blocks, downloads and installs ... something, and the launcher then installs itself again.
I have two words for you, CCP: NOT SMOOTH
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Ruger Kalashnakov
Gallifrey Resources
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:17:00 -
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Can anyone tell me the size of the Launcher update? I was playing fine all day ( must have launched early this morning before Updater was updated ) and then I logged off, started back up and now it says " DOWNLOADING LAUNCHER UPDATE " with just a grey bar, no download information etc. Here is where the problem is. I'm on a slow internet, I download at 60kbs. I know that it is transferring information, as I have the program NetWorx. I am new and just started on May 25th. Ive never experienced needing to update launcher after my initial update.
Should I have information of the Launcher Update status? Or will it just be done when its done. Am I actually hung up and something is not working right therefor its not updating? ( though like I said, everytime I launch the updater NetWorx shows download speed activity. Anyway, the main reason I want to know the size is so I can decide if its large enough that it would be better if I ran to my parents house quick to use there 1.7mbs download speed. OR if its small enough that it should finish soon. Anyway, hopefully someone can tell me the download size. Thanks in advance. |
Col B
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:33:00 -
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Question to the Dev's, is there anyway or thought for the future to increase the number of log-ins held. I would imagne that there are not many folks that have enough accounts for this to be a problem, but the old luancher would hold all of your log-in names, this new launcher limits the amount. Thank you |
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