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Lexar Mundi
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2013.05.24 06:52:00 -
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By now MMO companies should know a portion of their player base likes to bultibox. Why don't game companies create their own in game multiboxing software to help lower the problems of questionable multiboxing programs? This would not only allow players to multibox safely with a trusted download it would also let players know where the line is so they don't get banned by lack of knowledge. This would also allow the game companies like CCP to set up multiboxing restrictions as well. Examples would be: limited account usage, limiting or allowing clicks and button presses to be sent through all clients with one click or button press.
I understand some people dislike multiboxing but CCP and other MMO companies allow it, and it is here to stay. Why not give their player base a tool within the EULA / ToS to do so? They could even charge a monthly fee to run the multiboxing software. It surprises me more MMO companies don't do this. |
iskflakes
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:20:00 -
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If this existed I would subscribe another 10 accounts. - |
Jita GnaGna
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:22:00 -
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Yeah CCP should focus on a tool used to play the game in a single player style to avoid any human interaction, but still possible to fly in a ful fleet Oo
God damn learn to use multiple clients without software or deal with potential butthurt when CCP hits multiboxers in the future ... |
Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:27:00 -
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if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.05.24 07:58:00 -
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Why waste time doing it when 3rd party developers already do it and do it better? Even if they had their own, it wouldn't make sense to ban the other multiboxing programs, since they don't break any rules. So either they'd have to pretty much provide the best multiboxing software on the planet or we would have another jukebox on our hands, that just gets cut because it's a waste of resources to keep it updated when there are better alternatives available. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:24:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Why waste time doing it when 3rd party developers already do it and do it better? Even if they had their own, it wouldn't make sense to ban the other multiboxing programs, since they don't break any rules. So either they'd have to pretty much provide the best multiboxing software on the planet or we would have another jukebox on our hands, that just gets cut because it's a waste of resources to keep it updated when there are better alternatives available. This is pretty much my sentiment.
Another thing to consider is the issue of convenience for the multiboxer user. Imagine if CCP were to create its own, exclusive multibox client; and, every other MMO developer did the same. At that point, a multiboxer user has to download several different multibox clients, one for each game, and has to set up individual profiles, keybinds, and so on, for each one of them. Not only is it extra effort, but it is also extra bloat. As it is right now, third-party developers provide unified functionality through a single client, much in the way that multi-platform chat clients like Pidgin and Trillian allow one to simultaneously access multiple chat services like AIM, Facebook, IRC, and so on. I use Pidgin exactly because of that functionality: instead of running a different program, each with its own window(s), for each chat service, I have a single window for all of my chat services, and this makes me happy because it uses less desktop real estate, less processing resources, and gives me less flashing buttons on my taskbar. I am not a multiboxer, but I can easily imagine that if I were then I would also prefer the integrated, multi-game support of a single client to downloading and configuring a separate client for each game I might play. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10637
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:25:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Why waste time doing it when 3rd party developers already do it and do it better? Even if they had their own, it wouldn't make sense to ban the other multiboxing programs, since they don't break any rules. So either they'd have to pretty much provide the best multiboxing software on the planet or we would have another jukebox on our hands, that just gets cut because it's a waste of resources to keep it updated when there are better alternatives available. This is pretty much my sentiment.
Another thing to consider is the issue of convenience for the multiboxer user. Imagine if CCP were to create its own, exclusive multibox client; and, every other MMO developer did the same. At that point, a multiboxer user has to download several different multibox clients, one for each game, and has to set up individual profiles, keybinds, and so on, for each one of them. Not only is it extra effort, but it is also extra bloat. As it is right now, third-party developers provide unified functionality through a single client, much in the way that multi-platform chat clients like Pidgin and Trillian allow one to simultaneously access multiple chat services like AIM, Facebook, IRC, and so on. I use Pidgin exactly because of that functionality: instead of running a different program, each with its own window(s), for each chat service, I have a single window for all of my chat services, and this makes me happy because it uses less desktop real estate, less processing resources, and gives me less flashing buttons on my taskbar. I am not a multiboxer, but I can easily imagine that if I were then I would also prefer the integrated, multi-game support of a single client to downloading and configuring a separate client for each game I might play. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
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Posted - 2013.05.24 09:30:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that.
I approve of this. |
Null Slinger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.24 11:10:00 -
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Having seen CCP developers latest offering in the new "launcher", I certainly wouldn't want to use their attempt at multiboxing software!
In lax we trust! |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:06:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that.
This is what CCP has clearly stated:
GM Lelouch wrote:Multiboxing is not inherently in violation of our EULA, a player is not breaking the EVE game rules by virtue of simultaneously operating multiple accounts alone. Multiboxing software can however be in violation of the EULA.
CCP can and will not officially endorse or condone specific pieces of third-party software and ISBoxer is no exception to this. I will make this very clear: CCP does not officially endorse ISBoxer or any other multiboxing software.
Pretty far fetched to call this "perfectly fine".
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
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brinelan
The Flying Dead Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:08:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Why waste time doing it when 3rd party developers already do it and do it better? Even if they had their own, it wouldn't make sense to ban the other multiboxing programs, since they don't break any rules. So either they'd have to pretty much provide the best multiboxing software on the planet or we would have another jukebox on our hands, that just gets cut because it's a waste of resources to keep it updated when there are better alternatives available.
Id rather see them use their limited developer resources to fix posses, or make new ships to get blown up in, or new regions with cool features ... but that's just my opinion. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:20:00 -
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Did we really need another stealth 'ISBoxer, legal or not?" thread...
Stealth...heh. This thread was painted OSHA orange and rimmed with neon and strobe lights with ambulance sirens blaring and a parade being thrown in its honor. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Brit Green
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:31:00 -
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CCP programers can't make a decent voice chat, can't get more than one avatar in a room and can barely get a serviceable UI in game. Why would anyone want them to add a broken multi boxing program to that?
Let CCP do what they do best. Spaceships that pew pew. Leave the other stuff to 3rd parties. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:36:00 -
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LOL.
CCP can't even get their new :awesome: launcher to work consistently, and now you want them to tackle something that would require extensive development and testing?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:00:00 -
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There is already so much stuff in need of work, they should just spend time doing what they know best instead of whatever multiboxing crap.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Hershman
Creepers Corporation Creepers Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:56:00 -
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Roime wrote:Danni stark wrote:if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that. This is what CCP has clearly stated: GM Lelouch wrote:Multiboxing is not inherently in violation of our EULA, a player is not breaking the EVE game rules by virtue of simultaneously operating multiple accounts alone. Multiboxing software can however be in violation of the EULA.
CCP can and will not officially endorse or condone specific pieces of third-party software and ISBoxer is no exception to this. I will make this very clear: CCP does not officially endorse ISBoxer or any other multiboxing software. Pretty far fetched to call this "perfectly fine".
Yes, that means it's perfectly fine. You should really brush up on your reading comprehension. |
Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:03:00 -
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Roime wrote:Danni stark wrote:if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that. This is what CCP has clearly stated: GM Lelouch wrote:Multiboxing is not inherently in violation of our EULA, a player is not breaking the EVE game rules by virtue of simultaneously operating multiple accounts alone. Multiboxing software can however be in violation of the EULA.
CCP can and will not officially endorse or condone specific pieces of third-party software and ISBoxer is no exception to this. I will make this very clear: CCP does not officially endorse ISBoxer or any other multiboxing software. Pretty far fetched to call this "perfectly fine".
Way to out of context quote to imply something that the full quote doesn't say, Saying that they do not specifically endorse ISboxer because the possibility that it's capabilities may at some point change is a far reach from what you are trying to imply.
They've made it quite clear that they do not currently consider using ISboxer to be a violation of the EULA, what you quoted is just them saying that they reserve the right to change their minds if ISboxer gains functionality that inherently violates the EULA.
You've lost, now go sulk somewhere. |
Arronicus
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
650
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:53:00 -
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This is best left to third parties. CCP would likely botch it, or provide an inferior product anyway. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5156
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:00:00 -
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Roime wrote:Danni stark wrote:if this existed we could ban every one who makes threads about isboxer breaking the eula even though it's been clearly stated that it's perfectly fine!
i'd like that. This is what CCP has clearly stated: GM Lelouch wrote:Multiboxing is not inherently in violation of our EULA, a player is not breaking the EVE game rules by virtue of simultaneously operating multiple accounts alone. Multiboxing software can however be in violation of the EULA.
CCP can and will not officially endorse or condone specific pieces of third-party software and ISBoxer is no exception to this. I will make this very clear: CCP does not officially endorse ISBoxer or any other multiboxing software. Pretty far fetched to call this "perfectly fine". Nice cherrypicking there. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
Lexar Mundi
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:42:00 -
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This is NOT an ISBoxer thread! stay on topic and leave your ISBoxer comments outside the thread. |
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Brutorr
Guerrilla Army S2N Citizens
0
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:53:00 -
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They should design something which allows use of one screen which can hot which between the accounts! Least face it alt tab is getting old, and for some of us we would like to use one screen between the many this could make people want more accounts! |
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