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Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:38:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:The Caldari are being oppressed by their own tyrannical government. It is time for them to rise and take a stand. It is time for them to but their future in their own hands. It is time for a new age where Caldari children can live with hope.
It is time for Heth to die. It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace. |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
474
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:00:00 -
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If Yanala saw this coming, and disobeyed orders regardless, she is indeed a hero.
When a man is desperate to remain in power, undesirable things can happen when the populace turns against him. The CEP likely has got to make quick but solid decisions now. I don't envy them. I hope peace will remain within the State. Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |
Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
55
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:06:00 -
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Yanala is still a hero regardless of her disobeying orders, she did what was best.
This news gives a much larger reason that Heth needs to go NOW
Heth Must GO! |
Katarina Musana
Gradient Electus Matari
57
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:13:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Citizens of the State! Behold! Your leader!
Allow me to regress back to my five year old self for a brief moment.
*Ahem* I told you so! I told you so! Na-na-na poopoo!
That's not much of a regression for you.
As for the news of Admiral Yanala, I can't say I'm terribly surprised, but upon hearing what she did, I am saddened. Admiral Yanala should be remembered with Honor. |
Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
65
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:34:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:The Caldari are being oppressed by their own tyrannical government. It is time for them to rise and take a stand. It is time for them to but their future in their own hands. It is time for a new age where Caldari children can live with hope.
It is time for Heth to die. It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace.
Nice to see our Gallentean friends are learning from their mistakes in the past. My alt has two Gnosis, how does he smell?Awful. |
Mirala Nodoka
SilfMeg Mining and Transportation Co
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:38:00 -
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This truth is worse than fiction.
By his deeds, Tibus Heth has shown himself capable of anything in his determination to see his Vision for us Caldari become reality;
The Devastation of our Home World by Caldari hand, only averted by Admiral Yanala's disregard of direct orders.
Then Admiral Yanala's death, a forced death to punish her for he conscientious actions during the battle.
Followed by a coverup-story that "her clone malfunctioned" when it became clear that she had become a hero to the Caldari People.
And let me not forget mentioning the threatening of members of the Caldari Navy and conscientious clone workers with the threat of Treason.
I wonder how many dead were caused by the "shake down" of the workers at the clone facility... By his thugs.
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So he has lied, murdered and betrayed his fellow Caldari, for that is what all his actions account to; betrayal of the Caldari People.
Had he taken responsibility for his actions as they happened, I could have used a lesser term.... for it would show the man had at least the decency to stand up for his actions.
But this is a Betrayal of all we Caldari hold dear; our State, our Homeworld, our Society...
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Heth must go.
For the Glory and the Future of the State!
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James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
410
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:01:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:The Caldari are being oppressed by their own tyrannical government. It is time for them to rise and take a stand. It is time for them to but their future in their own hands. It is time for a new age where Caldari children can live with hope.
It is time for Heth to die. It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace. Well spoken. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
233
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:35:00 -
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Give me one hour, the exact location of Heth, and no Navy interference, and I'll get you one Tibus Heth corpse. 10 Thoraxes, 3 Minutes Star Fraction vs. Band of Brothers - An Inside Perspective
https://truestories.eveonline.com/ideas/940-10-thoraxes-3-minutes |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
980
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:47:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:The Caldari are being oppressed by their own tyrannical government. It is time for them to rise and take a stand. It is time for them to but their future in their own hands. It is time for a new age where Caldari children can live with hope.
It is time for Heth to die. It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace.
Good sir, I am half Deteis with many family, friends, and connections inside of the State. I even lived there for roughly a third of my life.
Not only that, but I have been personally effected and even harmed by Heth's tyrannical regime.
You should probably take time to learn more about others before telling them what to do.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
76
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:55:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:You should probably take time to learn more about others before telling them what to do. I know enough about you to know that you claim descent from Garoun aristocracy, just like me. So act like it, Captain. |
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Felsusguy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
175
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:19:00 -
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I am not sure what I will find more shocking...
The tragic, enraging event and what will follow...
...or what Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all. How droll. |
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:28:00 -
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For new plants to take roots, old ones must be taken down.
Although this means destruction must come and visit us once in a blue moon, often without our acceptance. Th is the price we must pay to grow. Although dark times are surely ahead, one must still be positive and see the light at the end of the tunnel. It is a road for which often we all have to travel.
For after every ending, there is always a new beginning.
I wish the state and it's people the best through this tough times.
And for many others , please keep your " I told you so's" to yourselves. This is not the time nor the place.
Remember, no matter how much you think you know or rightfully righteous you feel , the destiny of the State only lay at the hand of its citizens. It is with their own sweat off their back and the blood for which they spill for her, that she is able to stand here today.
At their time of needs be respectful, lend an hear if spoken to, give advice if sought upon, other then that keep your mouth shut!
Forcefully speak and no one listen. Gloat and surely you will gain a more determined enemy in the future. ( A wiser and more deadlier one, I say)
If you must gloat, then do so in private or amongts your peers! |
Lucas Raholan
Agenda Industries
73
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:51:00 -
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Felsusguy wrote: Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all.
I'm sure it will be balanced and considerate. I'm secretly a unicorn that Sh**ts fairy dust and sings all day-á |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
953
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:08:00 -
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Jelani Akinyemi Affonso wrote:For new plants to take roots, old ones must be taken down.
Although this means destruction must come and visit us once in a blue moon, often without our acceptance. Th is the price we must pay to grow. Although dark times are surely ahead, one must still be positive and see the light at the end of the tunnel. It is a road for which often we all have to travel.
For after every ending, there is always a new beginning.
I wish the state and it's people the best through this tough times.
And for many others , please keep your " I told you so's" to yourselves. This is not the time nor the place.
Remember, no matter how much you think you know or rightfully righteous you feel , the destiny of the State only lay at the hand of its citizens. It is with their own sweat off their back and the blood for which they spill for her, that she is able to stand here today.
At their time of needs be respectful, lend an hear if spoken to, give advice if sought upon, other then that keep your mouth shut!
Forcefully speak and no one listen. Gloat and surely you will gain a more determined enemy in the future. ( A wiser and more deadlier one, I say)
If you must gloat, then do so in private or amongts your peers! Thank you, sir. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
981
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:14:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:You should probably take time to learn more about others before telling them what to do. I know enough about you to know that you claim descent from Garoun aristocracy, just like me. So act like it, Captain.
I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1501
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:28:00 -
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Oh boy. I think when the CEP is done the best Heth can hope for is to get buried in secrecy so his grave doesn't get violated.
Maybe for years of loyal service to the Caldari Navy they'll reward Dianna Kim with the honor of leading the firing squad for the man who murdered one of their greatest admirals? The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2811
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:57:00 -
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And here I was afraid that Erinen would never make it to the hearing alive.
I imagined that Heth would have gone "the provists way" and things would have been either sabotage or outright murder. I can only imagine what the last conversation between Heth and Yanala was like.
Now, when the Caldari people are ready to take out this monster, they will have my support and assistance. |
Bai'xao Meiyi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:08:00 -
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Oh for the profits sake... KILL HIM ALREADY. I and the rest of the world are waiting for a damned resolution to this madness. Give him a slow death then put the leader ship back the way it was, have the Megas cooperate.
All this pissing and farting around in the media is getting damned ridiculous. Drop a carrier on his head in the fashion of that Caldari icon Tovil Toba and save your homelands from this weakling clinging to power. |
Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
83
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:45:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry. And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry.
For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.
I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association. |
Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
116
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:55:00 -
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It is a shame Erinen did not realize her folly five years ago and refuse to launch a war on the orders of a single man, instead of respecting the chain of command and turning him over to the CEP. |
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
145
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:43:00 -
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Heroes pass into dust, never to be Reborn. A Symbol fades with the loss of a heartbeat.
The Outsiders flaws are amplified.
Related, I am offering one billion ISK for the body of Yanala from her clone at the Battle of Caldari Prime. It needs to be properly buried and enshrined. This is not an act of the Foundations but rather a personal gesture. |
Vikarion
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
495
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:45:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry. And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry. For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association.
Well, I was going to give him what-for, but it appears that I don't need to. Freddie-boy couldn't hope to be Caldari if he wanted to be, but if you ever want to expatriate to the State, let me know. |
Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
83
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:59:00 -
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Vikarion wrote:Well, I was going to give him what-for, but it appears that I don't need to. Freddie-boy couldn't hope to be Caldari if he wanted to be, but if you ever want to expatriate to the State, let me know. I doubt that will ever happen, Captain, but I appreciate the compliment all the same. |
marlinspike von Crendraven
EVE University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:12:00 -
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Reading this thread it would seem that Heth is a marked man whoGÇÖs days are numbered; and as for the provosts who follow him looks like we will get to see just who is loyal to Heath & who is loyal to the state and which of them will claim to be loyal to try and avoid the reckoning that is starting to come crashing down upon them. One things for sure, Interesting times are ahead indeed. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
512
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:53:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:I believe I have passed the point of anger and simply resolved to do whatever I can whenever I can to make sure Heth dies. I should mention that Heth's rotting corpse is worth 1 billion ISK to me. The bounty has already been placed. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
981
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:23:00 -
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Felsusguy wrote: ...or what Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all.
So far at least she has taken the dignity of silence and contemplation.
Perhaps you should follow suit. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
985
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:38:00 -
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Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry. And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry. For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association.
I did not suggest that you treat me differently due to my Deteis blood. Rather, I was merely explaining to you that I am not just some random Gallente shouting over something that doesn't concern me because quite frankly, it does.
You say so much but know so little. Dictating who I am and what I should based entirely off of a few posts. You are correct, I'm not a true Caldari. Never have, never will be, never want to. However, I have many friends and family that are and always will be. All of them harmed in varying ways under Heth's regime. I even took a few punches from that horrible man on one occasion. Yet I've lent a helping hand to my Caldari brothers and sisters on multiple occasions and they have returned that aid in ways I cannot possibly reciprocate properly. I have always been an advocate for Gallente- Caldari peace and cooperation.
Do you really think the man with the tacky red, suit blue hair, and awkward facial tattoo is concerned with embarrassing himself? If I cared about embarrassing myself I would be a very different and rather unsuccessful man. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Felsusguy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
192
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:17:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Felsusguy wrote: ...or what Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all.
So far at least she has taken the dignity of silence and contemplation. Perhaps you should follow suit. There is no dignity in purposeless silence. Her silence may have a purpose, or it may not, but I see no reason to believe that my silence has a purpose. Some may argue, but they argue in vain, for they know not of true wisdom, as none of us do.
But alas, such philosophical thoughts aren't important. I, and my culture, care not for this kind of dignity.
Perhaps you could say I don't need to "make up" for what I have done. Unlike Diana Kim, I have not chosen the greater of two evils. Indeed, I have not chosen the lesser, either. I am an independent capsuleer. Something of a privateer. I care not for Jacus Roden or Mentas Blaque. Though I align myself with the Federation for everyday events, I refuse to defend the men holding the cards. They don't need my verbal protection, nor do they deserve it, nor would it help.
You see, unlike Diana Kim, I have enough dignity to live without needing the fabricated tenets of honor and pride. How droll. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1142
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:23:00 -
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Everyone again is demanding Heth's head. I was wondering more rather that we have this topic, how often is the Tea Ceremony actually conducted by the Caldari is it rare or what ? |
Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
66
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:37:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Emile Belfleur wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry. And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry. For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association. I did not suggest that you treat me differently due to my Deteis blood. Rather, I was merely explaining to you that I am not just some random Gallente shouting over something that doesn't concern me because quite frankly, it does. You say so much but know so little. Dictating who I am and what I should based entirely off of a few posts. You are correct, I'm not a true Caldari. Never have, never will be, never want to. However, I have many friends and family that are and always will be. All of them harmed in varying ways under Heth's regime. I even took a few punches from that horrible man on one occasion. Yet I've lent a helping hand to my Caldari brothers and sisters on multiple occasions and they have returned that aid in ways I cannot possibly reciprocate properly. I have always been an advocate for Gallente- Caldari peace and cooperation. Do you really think the man with the tacky red suit, blue hair, and awkward facial tattoo is concerned with embarrassing himself? If I cared about embarrassing myself I would be a very different and rather unsuccessful man.
Both of you, knock it off. There is a time and a place for this kind of behaviour, this isn't it. Have your squabbles in private if you must, but leave the Caldari to get their house in order in peace.
How they get their house in order... Well I would hate to be Heth right now. I can only imagine the masses calling for his head and I cannot see the CEP being too far behind. For what it is worth, good on them, this treatment of a true heroine is quite frankly disgusting.
The opinions expressed herein do not reflect official TRN policy decisions and are the opinions of the Capsuleer herself. My alt has two Gnosis, how does he smell?Awful. |
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