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Mark Androcius
101
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:56:00 -
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I just noticed, the launcher itself already takes up 101 MB.
Not that 101 MB is any problem for me or anything, but MY GOD!!!!!!!! how inefficient can you be man......??????
A 101 MB for a small graphical launcher, is about 70 to 90 MB to much. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Drunken Bum
343
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:04:00 -
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Get the **** over it the horse is dead. Leave it alone. Spare some change?-á |
Diablo Ex
Perkone Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:10:00 -
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I can't believe it... you made me actually look.... The EvE launcher is no where near that big... Scammed Again! I must be getting soft or something
+1 Troll Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
baltec1
Bat Country
6681
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:22:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:I can't believe it... you made me actually look.... The EvE launcher is no where near that big... Scammed Again! I must be getting soft or something +1 Troll
What's the real number? |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:I can't believe it... you made me actually look.... The EvE launcher is no where near that big... Scammed Again! I must be getting soft or something +1 Troll What's the real number?
On mine with the launcher open but game not active, it's 70.1 Mb |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
497
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:33:00 -
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Mine is @ 90 without being logged in. Just opened it to see. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Tiven loves Tansien
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
809
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:43:00 -
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Inefficient and dirty coding. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:47:00 -
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Just checked a second time to see if the reading alters much.
Launcher open not in game This time 69.9 but there is a second part to it which seems to stay around 3.7 (not added to first post of mine).
Launcher open in game 71.7 and 3.7 |
Mark Androcius
102
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:49:00 -
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Drunken Bum wrote:Get the **** over it the horse is dead. Leave it alone.
Well, to be very honest, this part of the launchers size has not been beaten to death yet.
I figured out the launcher keeps older versions of itself, thereby making it bigger and bigger with each update. So a complete reinstall will make it smaller again, but i don't imagine anyone doing that over just 100-ish MB.
It is however, very sloppy coding. It would have made sense to maybe keep at least the last "known to work" launcher, which you could revert to if needed. But since eve will not work with an older version of the launcher, even that is redundant. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Tsuya
Irresponsible Use of Capital
6
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:51:00 -
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Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher. |
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Mark Androcius
102
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:00:00 -
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Tsuya wrote:Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher.
That won't be possible after Ody, if i'm not mistaken. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Lucy Oreless
F.O.R.G.E EntroPraetorian Aegis
141
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:10:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Tsuya wrote:Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher. That won't be possible after Ody, if i'm not mistaken.
I really hope it still will I hat..um, very strongly dislike all these damn launchers.. When i click the icon to play EVE, i wanna PLAY EVE, not wait aditional time for the launcher to load and then read dev-blogs, watch trailers or get bombarded with plex-offers. That **** i can do on eveonline.com in my browser.
Game-developers are getting the mobil-phone desease i think. It have to do EVERYTHING... _____________________________________________________________________________________ -áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman.... |
Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
303
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:17:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:I can't believe it... you made me actually look.... The EvE launcher is no where near that big... Scammed Again! I must be getting soft or something +1 Troll
with it open but not in game, mine varies between 89 and 101. |
Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
303
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:18:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Tsuya wrote:Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher. That won't be possible after Ody, if i'm not mistaken.
no, its not getting removed with Odyssey. There is no definite date other than it wont be june 4th. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
497
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:30:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Tsuya wrote:Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher. That won't be possible after Ody, if i'm not mistaken.
Not Odyssey, but at a later date. It's getting removed though. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Mark Androcius
102
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:33:00 -
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I stand corrected, but at least only on the date :P If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1364
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:42:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Tsuya wrote:Run ExeFile from the EVE\bin folder and just skip the worthless launcher. That won't be possible after Ody, if i'm not mistaken.
Doesn't even work for me now, exefile just launches the launcher. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:26:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Doesn't even work for me now, exefile just launches the launcher.
Then you are doing it wrong. bin/ExeFile.exe will launch the client directly.
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Lost True
Paradise project
2328
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:07:00 -
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...Who cares? in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much? Played for 2 months, and tired of the same space again... [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2195542#post2195542[/url] |
In Spirit
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:27:00 -
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Quote: Then you are doing it wrong. bin/ExeFile.exe will launch the client directly.
There's no "wrong" way of clicking on an icon in a folder. Mine opens the launcher as well. |
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GreenSeed
330
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:39:00 -
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Tiven loves Tansien wrote:Inefficient and dirty coding.
considering chrome eats 90mb+ with one tab open, and the launcher is a browser and has 2 "tabs" open, one for main screen and another for the log in box AND its also a torrent client (24mb on utorrent with all torrents stopped.) and an installer/patcher. i would say 90mb for the launcher process is damn fine.
that is, comparing what the launcher does to two individual programs considered to be the best optimized programs on their categories. |
iskflakes
464
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:29:00 -
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I decided to have a look at why it was so big:
1) The launcher includes nearly an entire python install (~25MB) including most of the python standard library 2) The launcher embeds chrome, (libcef.dll, ~20MB) 3) icudt.dll, which is something to do with localization/unicode ~10MB 4) Steam integration via steamclient.dll, ~7MB 5) THREE copies of the VC90 runtime. I mean seriously? 6) A 30MB cache, which includes a 25MB updater.exe, which probably includes an entire python install as well
Some of this is unavoidable, for example licensing may prevent them from statically linking with half those DLLs, but I think they could shrink it to 1/10th its current size just by getting rid of all the duplicate python installs and VC90 runtimes.
Would be interesting to see a dev comment on this. - |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2543
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:27:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:I just noticed, the launcher itself already takes up 101 MB.
OMG!!!
I'm sure I'll shoehorn it into the 5 TB I have free, but I'll have to think carefully about it.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Malak Dawnfire
The Scope Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:38:00 -
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EVE Launcher ruined my life!!!!
My opinion on it. |
Obunagawe
76
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:55:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Mark Androcius wrote:I just noticed, the launcher itself already takes up 101 MB.
OMG!!! I'm sure I'll shoehorn it into the 5 TB I have free, but I'll have to think carefully about it. Mr Epeen
You have 5TB of RAM? |
Sturmwolke
413
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:02:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:I decided to have a look at why it was so big:
1) The launcher includes nearly an entire python install (~25MB) including most of the python standard library 2) The launcher embeds chrome, (libcef.dll, ~20MB) 3) icudt.dll, which is something to do with localization/unicode ~10MB 4) Steam integration via steamclient.dll, ~7MB 5) THREE copies of the VC90 runtime. I mean seriously? 6) A 30MB cache, which includes a 25MB updater.exe, which probably includes an entire python install as well
Some of this is unavoidable, for example licensing may prevent them from statically linking with half those DLLs, but I think they could shrink it to 1/10th its current size just by getting rid of all the duplicate python installs and VC90 runtimes.
Would be interesting to see a dev comment on this. Post of the day.
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Seetesh
RTS - POS Deployments
41
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:13:00 -
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Tbh if your noticing 101mb you should really get more ram. I'm running on 16gb and I didn't notice it until you felt the need to point It out. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
409
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:27:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:I decided to have a look at why it was so big:
1) The launcher includes nearly an entire python install (~25MB) including most of the python standard library 2) The launcher embeds chrome, (libcef.dll, ~20MB) 3) icudt.dll, which is something to do with localization/unicode ~10MB 4) Steam integration via steamclient.dll, ~7MB 5) THREE copies of the VC90 runtime. I mean seriously? 6) A 30MB cache, which includes a 25MB updater.exe, which probably includes an entire python install as well
Some of this is unavoidable, for example licensing may prevent them from statically linking with half those DLLs, but I think they could shrink it to 1/10th its current size just by getting rid of all the duplicate python installs and VC90 runtimes.
Would be interesting to see a dev comment on this.
And all of that does not matter at all unless you have a PC from the pentium III era... |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2544
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:31:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Mark Androcius wrote:I just noticed, the launcher itself already takes up 101 MB.
OMG!!! I'm sure I'll shoehorn it into the 5 TB I have free, but I'll have to think carefully about it. Mr Epeen You have 5TB of RAM?
Okay. I totally read the OP wrong.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
grrlet
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:50:00 -
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Quote:There's no "wrong" way of clicking on an icon in a folder. Mine opens the launcher as well.
If you don't particularly care what outcome you get from said clicking, I suppose there is no wrong way =) Right, Left, who cares!
Edit: total forum fail. I dIdn't notice i was still on the first page of 2. |
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