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Rhyarkh
Commando Aeternitas
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:53:00 -
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Hi there,
I'm sorry if this question has been already asked before, but searching the forums is broken, currently.
I want to ask what happens if I'm skilling BC 5 during the downtime on patch day (4th July). My main character has already skilled BC 5 and all other important skills, but my 2nd character started training too late ;).
Let's assume the following situation: My character is skilling Battlecruiser V and it won't be finished during the downtime. The following times are chosen arbitrary.
13:00 o'clock: servers are shutting down
17:00 o'clock: server are starting up again, now with Odyssey patch
What happens to my character now?
Is my character skilling BC V until 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock? In other words, will my new racial BC skills have the SP from 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock?
Well, in my scenario the downtime is about 4 hours, so if I want to train all 4 racial BC skills to level 5 afterwards and if training on BC 5 stops at 13:00 o'clock, it will take me 12 hours instead of 3 hours afterwards.
After the servers are running again, is my character training anything (maybe a random racial BC 5 skill) or is the training queue empty? And what is my character training if I had additionally another skill which is not affected by the patch in the training queue (this is only possible if BC 5 has less than 24 hours to train)? Is he training the other skill after the downtime?
Regards
\\ Rhyarkh |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1954
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:56:00 -
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You get smacked on the hand for not using the search feature.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1860
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:57:00 -
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Your character will get bugged, stop training, lose all BC skills and you'll have to wait 4 weeks for a petition response with no reimbursement. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5099
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:06:00 -
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All I know is your training will be paused, if you were training destroyers or BCs at the time the patch is deployed. I take this to mean it will be paused the moment or soon after the server goes offline, because the skills will cease to exist, and you stop training anything until you login again after the expansion deployment and set a new skill to train. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:09:00 -
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Might be wrong but I thought I read somewhere awhile back that they were asking people not to train BC and destroyer skills during the patching process. |
Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:30:00 -
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if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.
i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
grrlet
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:57:00 -
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On SISI the "Battlecruiser" skill still exist. I would expect you would start training that which would be wasted SP...unless they're nice and refund the SP when/if they remove the skill at a later date. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1489
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:03:00 -
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Once the servers go down at 1300 so will your skill training. If you have not completed it by that time it will remain at the previous level. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Idea for Improving NPE. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1386
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:22:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.
i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.
This.
If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post. |
Danni stark
399
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:26:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Danni stark wrote:if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.
i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying. This. If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post.
no you don't lose your progress.
The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:
Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price. Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for. If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
531
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:27:00 -
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You do not lose your progress. The skill queue might stop running, but the SP you have partway into the skill will be duplicated to all of the skill variants you get. Or so I heard.
Wanna be safe? Stop training it the night before, and start training something else. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. |
Lexmana
960
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:27:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Might be wrong but I thought I read somewhere awhile back that they were asking people not to train BC and destroyer skills during the patching process. That would work ... or maybe not. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1386
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:29:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Danni stark wrote:if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.
i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying. This. If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post. no you don't lose your progress. The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:
Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price. Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for. If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills.
Well that is different from the last quote I had remembered seeing. But it was awhile ago, and I finished all the skills awhile ago. |
Danni stark
401
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:30:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Well that is different from the last quote I had remembered seeing. But it was awhile ago, and I finished all the skills awhile ago.
yes, originally they said something about whole integers. rather vague and confusing. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8000
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:31:00 -
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If you were around for the initial announcement almost a year ago and you haven't already trained those skills, I'd say you've got nobody to blame but yourself. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Hamatitio
Aperture Harmonics K162
111
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:56:00 -
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Plug some implants in? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14382
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Posted - 2013.05.27 22:01:00 -
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You will turn inside-out. And explode.
And the GÇ£whole integersGÇ¥ response was clear as crystal back when it was the plan. It has obviously changed since. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Braxus Deninard
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
126
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Posted - 2013.05.27 22:20:00 -
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Hamatitio wrote:Plug some implants in?
This. Just plug some implants/better implants in and get it done before DT. |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.05.28 00:51:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Danni stark wrote:if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.
i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying. This. If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post. no you don't lose your progress. The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:
Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price. Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for. If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills. this |
Krakhen
Praetors of Orpheus
24
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:52:00 -
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This might shed some light on your skill questions.
http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=65344
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1661
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:20:00 -
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You will wake up the next day as a juggalo and be forced to go to the gathering where you will get hepatitis and die. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2033
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:31:00 -
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My advice, don't be training destroyers or battlecruisers during the downtime.
You'll not only lose that time while you're paused, you'll be the most likely recipient of an "Oops, we hadn't thought of that scenario" bug with all those queue possibilities.
Don't tempt fate, train something else.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Rhyarkh
Commando Aeternitas
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:34:00 -
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Oh, I forgot that some people try to be as much helpless as they can. But thanks to everybody else.
Discussing this issue I think I decide not to train during downtime (but I'm still interested in how the devs are dealing with this issue, though). A major argument for not training during downtime is the one that War Kitten said:
Quote: [...] you'll be the most likely recipient of an "Oops, we hadn't thought of that scenario" bug with all those queue possibilities.
But I'm gonna change the skill queue as late as possible :).
Oh, and my main character has already trained those skills months ago. I just made the decision to train also my 2nd character in BC V too late (because my 2nd character is mainly in a supporting role). And I cannot plug in better implants since he cannot use level 5 implants. Also remapping is useless because I'm already training with max speed (so the 50k SP we got some days ago were about 19.1 hours of skill time I saved (multiplied by 4!)). |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1899
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:03:00 -
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I managed to get through all my pilots but one. That one will still have a week left on BC V (yes, poor planning). Ill leave that training through down time just to see what happens. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
480
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:56:00 -
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Rhyarkh wrote:Hi there,
I'm sorry if this question has been already asked before, but searching the forums is broken, currently.
I want to ask what happens if I'm skilling BC 5 during the downtime on patch day (4th July). My main character has already skilled BC 5 and all other important skills, but my 2nd character started training too late ;).
Let's assume the following situation: My character is skilling Battlecruiser V and it won't be finished during the downtime. The following times are chosen arbitrary.
13:00 o'clock: servers are shutting down
17:00 o'clock: server are starting up again, now with Odyssey patch
What happens to my character now?
Is my character skilling BC V until 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock? In other words, will my new racial BC skills have the SP from 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock?
Well, in my scenario the downtime is about 4 hours, so if I want to train all 4 racial BC skills to level 5 afterwards and if training on BC 5 stops at 13:00 o'clock, it will take me 12 hours instead of 3 hours afterwards.
After the servers are running again, is my character training anything (maybe a random racial BC 5 skill) or is the training queue empty? And what is my character training if I had additionally another skill which is not affected by the patch in the training queue (this is only possible if BC 5 has less than 24 hours to train)? Is he training the other skill after the downtime?
Regards
\\ Rhyarkh
buy some better implants or use those 50,000 free skillpoints they just gave us.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Danni stark
412
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:57:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I managed to get through all my pilots but one. That one will still have a week left on BC V (yes, poor planning). Ill leave that training through down time just to see what happens. it'll get paused at downtime, and you'll be training nothing until you log in and start your skill queue again. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
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