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Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
44
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:57:00 -
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Posting in a stealth WiS thread before it degenerates to its eventual locked state |
Pierrot-LeFou
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:11:00 -
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Posts like this remind me of people who ***** and moan about League of Legends Champion IP costs being too high and whatnot despite the entire game being free and the game giving you the ability to acquire all champions without ever spending a single penny. Such entitlement in this generation.
Is the "expansion" everything you personally wanted? No, however it is improvement, content and it's FREE.
CCP isn't a huge company, they aren't going to crank out masive WoW style expansions. The word expansion is used loosely here, it's more of just a mega patch/version upgrade sometimes but hey, it's keeping the game alive.
I'll see you next expansion. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4200
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:14:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Got out of your ship? Pray do tell what would ever posses me, a capsuleer, leave my precious pod that allows me full control of my ship. Go outside of the 6 to 20 meters of titanium hull that separates my pod and the hard vacuum, and leave the protection of my Blaster Cannons just so Dust Bunny can come and hunt me down?
Come on, have you not been here for the Jita riots? We do not want Avatar exploration, we dont want to run around on foot hopping nimbly bimbly from platform to platform. What we want is spaceships, that is why we are playing this game and CCP is providing plenty of changes to exiting Battlehships and Skills in order to make access and use of said spaceships different for a while after the release of Odessey. Plus its a free freaking expansion, say thank you to CCP that you dont have to pay 30 bucks to play a race of space pandas. While I agree that the expansion looks quite fully featured, I have to say that you have literally no idea what the Jita riots were about. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:24:00 -
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Blake Gates Heleneto wrote: Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions...
$15 every month, or $30 in my case. The vast majority of what CCP calls an "expansion" is what another developer would call Random Balance Patch v1.27 |
Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
100
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:44:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:assclown
That might be the first time I've seen that combo of words.
+1 for ensuring I have learned one new thing today.
[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |
Pierrot-LeFou
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:02:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Blake Gates Heleneto wrote: Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions...
$15 every month, or $30 in my case. The vast majority of what CCP calls an "expansion" is what another developer would call Random Balance Patch v1.27
And how often do other MMO's put out "real expansions"?
Once a year? Little over a year?
How often does CCP release their "expansions"? Hmm?
You're $15($30) does not make you any more special or more entitled than anyone else.
I remember the first couple MMO's didn't have expansions for like...2 years. No one complained. Too busy playing. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
892
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:09:00 -
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Beatrice Bourdain wrote:Eve's populace, 1-2 years ago: WAAAAH STOP GIVING US ~AWESOME FEATURES~ AND TWEAK THE SMALL STUFF
If this post is anything to go by, Eve's populace, today: WAAAH STOP TWEAKING THE SMALL STUFF AND GIVE US ~AWESOME FEATURES~ I've been here for nearly 10 years and I can say that people whined because CCP put new stuff on expansions, people whined because CCP mostly fixed stuff on expansions and people whined because CCP fixed old stuff AND put new stuff on expansions. hell, people even whined CCP did expansions and people whined CCP didn't do enough expansions and patches!
so, from experience I can say that people here whine every time CCP does anything and/or nothing at all. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Rishard Severasse
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:24:00 -
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I remember seeing a diagram back in the day in which CCP described their expansion philosophy.
Something where summer was for smaller stuff, winter was for bigger stuff.
So maybe they're just following that design plan? |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
892
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:31:00 -
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Rishard Severasse wrote:I remember seeing a diagram back in the day in which CCP described their expansion philosophy.
Something where summer was for smaller stuff, winter was for bigger stuff.
So maybe they're just following that design plan? no, really. CCP will always get fire for anything they change/don't change in a patch.
hell I can promise you that, if CCP released an expansion that only said "we're going to change the apocalypse name to Apocalypse", people would complain about that. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Doddy
Dark-Rising
850
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:45:00 -
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Given that ccp nearly killed eve by rushing content out for each expansion without doing anything with the core game you can probably forgive them for trying to fix the game before taking a new direction. Hopefully that direction will involve spaceships and not barbie online though. |
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Capt Tenguru10
Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities
3
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:47:00 -
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just quit now |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2250
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:58:00 -
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Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:LOL
Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions... (...)
I assure you that if CCP figured how to block content to certain clients in a single shard server, you would be paying for using those expansions.
But then, albeit the OP is a bit mislead on the real condition of WiS, the expansions have been "meh" for the last 4 ones, and winter is gonna be "meh" too even if CCP manages to find a EP and put him/her up to speed by then.
Tinkering with the new exploration on Sisi just has showed me how few I like exploration even If i always find fresh unused sites without any competition and can spend any amount of time to fail to hack them.
Under real TQ conditions, I will not waste a minute. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
485
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:11:00 -
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I think we'd all love it if CCP developed a more random/engaging exploration/mission system, causing the encounters to be a bit more surprising than, "Google site/mission, change fit if necessary, blow up red +'s." |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
423
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:15:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Got out of your ship? Pray do tell what would ever posses me, a capsuleer, leave my precious pod that allows me full control of my ship. Go outside of the 6 to 20 meters of titanium hull that separates my pod and the hard vacuum, and leave the protection of my Blaster Cannons just so Dust Bunny can come and hunt me down?
Come on, have you not been here for the Jita riots? We do not want Avatar exploration, we dont want to run around on foot hopping nimbly bimbly from platform to platform. What we want is spaceships, that is why we are playing this game and CCP is providing plenty of changes to exiting Battlehships and Skills in order to make access and use of said spaceships different for a while after the release of Odessey. Plus its a free freaking expansion, say thank you to CCP that you dont have to pay 30 bucks to play a race of space pandas. While I agree that the expansion looks quite fully featured, I have to say that you have literally no idea what the Jita riots were about.
Jita riots were about CCP not listening to players and then being smug about it in internal newsletter publications, so shut your filthy mouth sir. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2817
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:33:00 -
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The expansion has so many "little things" in it we should be glad to see something we can notice. |
DerArt1st
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:38:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote: -Tags4Sec - New content -A rebalance of a ton of mats - High end ores, Ice, and moon minerals. - Tweak of existing values -POS management improvements - Tweak of existing values -A metric asston of ship rebalancing - Tweak of existing values -Navy battlecruisers! - New content (well, kinda...) -An assortment of module rebalances - Tweak of existing values -Capital rigs - New content -Skill changes/tiericide - Tweak of existing values -Bunch of visual changes - Tweak of existing values -Pretty sure I saw something about some performance enhancements, as well. - Tweak of existing values
3 x New content 7 x Tweaks
I don't know what everybody else thinks but normaly "expansions" are filled with mostly new content. Softwarechanges where something gets changed are called "patches". |
Pierrot-LeFou
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:42:00 -
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DerArt1st wrote:Haulie Berry wrote: -Tags4Sec - New content -A rebalance of a ton of mats - High end ores, Ice, and moon minerals. - Tweak of existing values -POS management improvements - Tweak of existing values -A metric asston of ship rebalancing - Tweak of existing values -Navy battlecruisers! - New content (well, kinda...) -An assortment of module rebalances - Tweak of existing values -Capital rigs - New content -Skill changes/tiericide - Tweak of existing values -Bunch of visual changes - Tweak of existing values -Pretty sure I saw something about some performance enhancements, as well. - Tweak of existing values
3 x New content 7 x Tweaks I don't know what everybody else thinks but normaly "expansions" are filled with mostly new content. Softwarechanges where something gets changed are called "patches".
Expansions typically also cost money and only come out once every 12+ months.
It's a word, not a standard. |
Nex apparatu5
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
550
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:56:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:LOL
Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions... (...) I assure you that if CCP figured how to block content to certain clients in a single shard server, you would be paying for using those expansions. considering it took me roughly five seconds to figure out a way to do this, i bet CCP could easily gate content. |
Pierrot-LeFou
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:57:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:LOL
Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions... (...) I assure you that if CCP figured how to block content to certain clients in a single shard server, you would be paying for using those expansions. considering it took me roughly five seconds to figure out a way to do this, i bet CCP could easily gate content.
Considering skills and whatnot are already blocked when you're a trial account, CCP already knows how to do it too. It was a pretty stupid question. |
Zak Breen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:58:00 -
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CCP has every right to charge for these expansions but they don't. Why do you complain when they provide consistent updates and features to a 10-year-old game? Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic |
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Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
414
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:45:00 -
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Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions...
$14.95 a month?
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
22
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:55:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Er... is that it?
You (CCP) have tweaked the scanning system and changed the way it works slightly and are selling this as an expansion.
Does anyone else feel the same way as me after each supposed expansion - utterly dejected and depressed with the progress this game is making. When are CCP going to actually move the game on a bit ie open that station cabin door for our avatar.
There was a brilliant post about a prototype exploration game made in Unity engine that CCP had been protyping. You actually got out of your ship and explored the site, other players could come and hunt you. It was FPS love in space. Where is that? We get a few changes to exploration and call it an expansion.
Oh and you add some new system travel animation....
Man this is the only game that is worth playing at the moment but you guys really need to grow a pair and release something more than tweaks.
Please hurry the **** up CCP.
F U R I O U S
It downloaded something while I was getting a drink, didn't cost me a dime, and IMHO it is not good enough
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Danni stark
431
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:56:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:Tell me again how much you are paying for these expansions... $14.95 a month? no that's your subscription cost. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Jimmy Morane
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:22:00 -
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My question about this is - when it is released next week is it going to unleash a torrent of problems affecting players like the new launcher release did last week? |
Danni stark
432
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:27:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:My question about this is - when it is released next week is it going to unleash a torrent of problems affecting players like the new launcher release did last week?
yes. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
36
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:50:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Er... is that it?
You (CCP) have tweaked the scanning system and changed the way it works slightly and are selling this as an expansion.
Does anyone else feel the same way as me after each supposed expansion - utterly dejected and depressed with the progress this game is making. When are CCP going to actually move the game on a bit ie open that station cabin door for our avatar.
There was a brilliant post about a prototype exploration game made in Unity engine that CCP had been protyping. You actually got out of your ship and explored the site, other players could come and hunt you. It was FPS love in space. Where is that? We get a few changes to exploration and call it an expansion.
Oh and you add some new system travel animation....
Man this is the only game that is worth playing at the moment but you guys really need to grow a pair and release something more than tweaks.
Please hurry the **** up CCP. Im usually quick to bash CCP but this expansion looks really nice. |
GreenSeed
359
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:51:00 -
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anyone else annoyed by all the new people and they lack of familiarity with the eve developing cycle?
yes kid, its an expansion. and its full of changes, some more than enough to fuel a good 2 - 3 years of player generated content. ice changes? relocation of moons? added value on FW LP?
the content on eve is not dev generated, its player generated. there's no need for pandas, a new battleground or yet another mathematically generated tier of items. all it takes is some changes on the rules of the sandbox to generate a cascade effect. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
605
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:02:00 -
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CCP is continually improving its product. And there are two, to some degree, expansions a year.
IMHO the OP sounds spoiled. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Blake Gates Heleneto
Clandestine Management Group SiNTaX err0r
53
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:09:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:anyone else annoyed by all the new people and they lack of familiarity with the eve developing cycle?
yes kid, its an expansion. and its full of changes, some more than enough to fuel a good 2 - 3 years of player generated content. ice changes? relocation of moons? added value on FW LP?
the content on eve is not dev generated, its player generated. there's no need for pandas, a new battleground or yet another mathematically generated tier of items. all it takes is some changes on the rules of the sandbox to generate a cascade effect.
+1
/end thread |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
628
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:10:00 -
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CompleteFailure wrote:F***ING NAVY BATTLECRUISERS.
That is all.
LOL, Yes, Navy BC's, that rival the BC's we had two years ago, before CCP started lighting off all the nerf bombs.
So, you're happy about paying three times as much for something you had two years ago?
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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