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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:40:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:It's pretty easy to be cavalier about handwaving away other people's work
Remarkably easy for those of a certain political/social lean, and for those that think the world owes them something. Like math, having to actually WORK for something is hard. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
53
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Posted - 2013.06.01 02:32:00 -
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This is hilarious.
Somebody asks "hey, a bunch of people are selling T2 BPOs, did they realize something?"
The collective forum immune system launches into the usual, reflexive, mindless "oh god not this thread again" claptrap.
It takes an entire page of posts for someone to point out invention is being buffed with additional decryptors.
Groupthink much? |
James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
12
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:00:00 -
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REMOVE T2 BPOS FROM THE PREMISES Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT |
Haulie Berry
840
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Posted - 2013.06.01 06:31:00 -
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Kethas Protagonist wrote:This is hilarious.
Somebody asks "hey, a bunch of people are selling T2 BPOs, did they realize something?"
The collective forum immune system launches into the usual, reflexive, mindless "oh god not this thread again" claptrap.
It takes an entire page of posts for someone to point out invention is being buffed with additional decryptors.
Groupthink much? Except it reallly is the same old thread, and the decyptors are completely uninteresting with respect to the bulk of invention. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
351
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Posted - 2013.06.01 09:41:00 -
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Kethas Protagonist wrote:It takes an entire page of posts for someone to point out invention is being buffed with additional decryptors.
Groupthink much?
The only thing the new decryptors are likely to do is give more options when inventing larger ships. Unless they're common as dirt and hence cheap as dirt, they'll still likely be uneconomical to use in module and ammo invention.
Options, yes. General invention buff, not really.
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Haulie Berry
842
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:19:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:Kethas Protagonist wrote:It takes an entire page of posts for someone to point out invention is being buffed with additional decryptors.
Groupthink much? The only thing the new decryptors are likely to do is give more options when inventing larger ships. Unless they're common as dirt and hence cheap as dirt, they'll still likely be uneconomical to use in module and ammo invention. Options, yes. General invention buff, not really.
Yep - and the scanning (and stuff) devblog said one of them would be as common as current, and the other two would be rarer. |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
299
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Posted - 2013.06.01 16:45:00 -
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My suspicions is that the economics guy at CCP recommended to leave in the T2 BPOs in the game to see what effect they'd have on the market. |
Lyza Kimbo
Cat Scratch Fever
15
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Posted - 2013.06.01 16:56:00 -
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Kethas Protagonist wrote:This is hilarious.
Somebody asks "hey, a bunch of people are selling T2 BPOs, did they realize something?"
The collective forum immune system launches into the usual, reflexive, mindless "oh god not this thread again" claptrap.
It takes an entire page of posts for someone to point out invention is being buffed with additional decryptors.
Groupthink much?
No. If you understood the concept of groupthink, you'd realize that the fact someone in the group did point out the decryptors issue means it's not groupthink.
How about you get down off your high horse and quit sneering at the community, hmm? We all have feet of clay here, that's a given. Quit pretending like your toes are made of shining ivory.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:00:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote: I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse, of if you're actually this ******* stupid for realsies.
Not beyond the wit of CCP to refund the value of each BPO to the person holding it. There are various ways of determining the price that I won't go in to.
Is that not obtuse enough for you?
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Haulie Berry
843
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:43:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Haulie Berry wrote: I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse, of if you're actually this ******* stupid for realsies.
Not beyond the wit of CCP to refund the value of each BPO to the person holding it. There are various ways of determining the price that I won't go in to. Is that not obtuse enough for you?
Yeah... and the Fed could have just printed a bunch of money and used it to pay off everyone's mortgages during the housing crisis.
This is actually worse.
You're basically saying, "Hey, you know those T2 BPOs. Yeah, let's get rid of those, and handwave trillions and trillions of Isk into existence in their place. That will be better than the BPOs, which we already know aren't having any detrimental impact on the economy because my butthurt about BPOs exceeds my actual desire for a healthy economy by several orders of magnitude."
They could maybe, MAYBE get away with using confiscated isk for it. Maybe. I somehow doubt they've confiscated enough, and it's only marginally better because that's still blinking a ton of isk into the economy that is not currently there.
So: Harmless BPOs Vs. metric asston of new isk blinked into existence.
Gosh, tough call. |
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Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:13:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:
Rumors say something about invention buff, which is welcome by all means.
I see you know exactly what your talking about, because those "Rumors" have actually been released by CCP already and got discuessed in this section several times new decryptors
btw. I bet my whole 1,5 bil on my wallet that most of the 179 BPO-¦s wont actually be sold... Eve needs end-game goals like T2 BPO`s. you could easily compare them with titans for indy guys. I guess titans are unfair too because you can`t open a bridge with your rifter but he can, gotcha.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.06.01 20:19:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:
You're basically saying, "Hey, you know those T2 BPOs? Yeah, let's get rid of those, and handwave trillions and trillions of Isk into existence in their place. That will be better than the BPOs, which we already know aren't having any detrimental impact on the economy, because my butthurt about BPOs exceeds my actual desire for a healthy economy by several orders of magnitude."
So, let me try to understand this nonsensical point: T2 BPO's are worthless to own and have no impact on the economy, according to you. Yet despite being worthless to own, they still have value to their owner, hence the owner will absolutely under no circumstances agree with their removal from the game. So if some idiot paid a bill for an exotic dancer in Jita, exotic dancers should not be removed from the game because the poor dear values the one he owns?
With respect to compensation in ISK, what does it matter? A 0.1isk change to drop/spawn rates or any of a number of other variables in-game can change the money supply by trillions in a week.
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Haulie Berry
846
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:29:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:
You're basically saying, "Hey, you know those T2 BPOs? Yeah, let's get rid of those, and handwave trillions and trillions of Isk into existence in their place. That will be better than the BPOs, which we already know aren't having any detrimental impact on the economy, because my butthurt about BPOs exceeds my actual desire for a healthy economy by several orders of magnitude."
So, let me try to understand this nonsensical point: T2 BPO's are worthless to own and have no impact on the economy, according to you.
That's a lovely strawman you've thrown together there. Except what I actually said, one more time, in crayon, just for you:
Quote:Hell, at the net asset value of most players, the dumbest thing you can do with a T2 BPO is to actually possess one.
You've chosen to ignore this exceptionally important qualifier because, again, your childish angst over BPOs trumps all other concerns, up to and including maintaining any semblance of personal integrity.
They are not worthless at all, they're just a very bad investment for the vast majority of players. We'll refer to this group hereafter as the "spacepoors".
Spacepoors, in this context, are people for whom the ability to grow their NAV in an "investment" fashion is ultimately bottlenecked by the amount of money they have available, and not by some other resource. This means that spacepoors should, in general, be seeking the very best return they can get on their money.
Suppose you, as a spacepoor, have 10 billion ISK. Let's look at some of your possible investment options, here:
-You could buy a (bad) T2 BPO. Assume this price constitutes 7 years of manufacturing profit (which is generous on my part in today's market). If you spend 10 billion on a BPO at that return rate, you can expect it to generate about 119 million a month in profit.
Do you know how hard I would have to work to make 10 billion isk generate only 120 million a month doing, literally, anything else?
I honestly don't think I could do it. Hell - the NPC price of a retriever BPO is 1.7 billion. As they're only available in Outer Ring, you can sell them quite readily for 2 billion in trade hub systems, so we can take that same 10 billion, buy 5 retriever BPOs, have 1.5 billion left over for cake and ice cream, and pull in about 12x the profit that our 10 billion ISK T2 BPO would have yielded, and that's basically the second worst thing I could think to do with that sum of money.
So, since most people, in this context, are spacepoor, this brings us back to my original statement: At the NAV of most players, the dumbest thing to do with a T2 BPO is to actually possess one. Since their investment options are bottlenecked by isk, it makes no sense for them to have a huge (relative to their NAV) portion of their money tied up in an extremely low-return investment when they could, instead, convert the BPO to ISK and then enjoy many times the return that would be provided by the BPO.
Then, there's the spacerich. These are people who have so much money that it's difficult to actually put it all to work. They're simply out of capacity - market slots, lab slots, factory slots, etc., and STILL have hundreds of billions sitting in their wallet. These are the people for whom T2 BPOs make sense, because they have a huge sum of money for which their options are:
A: The very low return afforded by a T2 BPO B: The 0% return (less, if you bother to consider inflation) that comes from ISK sitting in your wallet.
Quote:With respect to compensation in ISK, what does it matter?
So I take it you never read any of the QENs, or watched any of Dr. Eyjog's presentations, or even had any sort of awareness of the fact that there is an economy here at all, but basically, you're so full of **** your eyes are brown. ISK flowing into the game Vs. Isk flowing out of the game is something they actually spend a pretty ******* sizeable chunk of time managing. |
Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
49
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:46:00 -
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I highly doubt they will be removed, as time goes on T2 BPOs will become ever more diluted until they make up so little of the market people won't even think of them.
Not many items now are built soley by T2 BPO, as invention has caught up to and surpassed many T2 BPOs. Heck invention can easily outproduce T2 BPOs in almost all cases. I myself am a T2 BPO owner (albeit a useless one), and I could make far more of the same product with invention than I could ever make with my T2 BPO, granted at a higher price, though with research my T2 Bpo isn't even profitable. Even more importantly their cost makes it utterly impossible someone could get a reasonable ROI within a few years even having it in the build slot 24/7. I mean hell if you pay 30 billion isk for a blueprint (and usually much more for a more profitable one) You would have to have significant capital to begin with. Plus you only have a single BPO to build from usually, meaning that person who is building 10+ build slots for invention can easily dilute you out of the market.
Sure there are some producers who got theirs from the original lottery, but many have left the game or stopped building. Some T2 BPOs have been destroyed which means they will never produce again.
So in the end, the removal of T2 BPOs from the game would likely not affect much at all, except for niche markets on modules that are hardly used to begin with. Because Invention could easily fill the gap left by T2 BPOs.
If CCP did remove T2 BPOs they would almost certainly have to reimburse the players who hold them, and then we would have bitching from people who are whining because players were getting 50+ billion isk for their T2 BPOs I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart. |
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
32
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Posted - 2013.06.02 07:09:00 -
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They are selling them now because in the winter expansion (Revolution) all T2 BPOs are having their ME/PE set to -5 and cannot be reasearched or copied anymore. Some other notable changes are POS manufactoring slots and research slots can be opened up to the public. The Orca is getting a mineral compression ability. PI/POS layouts can be saved for easy deployment. And i'm probably making this up because it's in the middle of a wall of text and no one will read it. There will also be Rogue Drone faction ships. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
114
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Posted - 2013.06.02 07:55:00 -
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Kirkwood Ross wrote:They are selling them now because in the winter expansion (Revolution) all T2 BPOs are having their ME/PE set to -5 and cannot be reasearched or copied anymore. Some other notable changes are POS manufactoring slots and research slots can be opened up to the public. The Orca is getting a mineral compression ability. PI/POS layouts can be saved for easy deployment. And i'm probably making this up because it's in the middle of a wall of text and no one will read it. There will also be Rogue Drone faction ships.
Link plz so I don't need to call your post a pile of asumptions or rumors or troling or what ever comes to my mind atm.
Lord Battlestar wrote:If CCP did remove T2 BPOs they would almost certainly have to reimburse the players who hold them, and then we would have bitching from people who are whining because players were getting 50+ billion isk for their T2 BPOs
funny thing is that if you read the EULA and other game relates rules... no they do not need to compensate the T2 BPO owners anything. and thb it would be a good time to get rid of those old relics anyways. |
Demoness666
Equilibrium Tech Labs
0
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Posted - 2013.06.02 08:35:00 -
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Kirkwood Ross wrote:They are selling them now because in the winter expansion (Revolution) all T2 BPOs are having their ME/PE set to -5 and cannot be reasearched or copied anymore. Some other notable changes are POS manufactoring slots and research slots can be opened up to the public. The Orca is getting a mineral compression ability. PI/POS layouts can be saved for easy deployment. And i'm probably making this up because it's in the middle of a wall of text and no one will read it. There will also be Rogue Drone faction ships.
If what you are saying is true, the next expansion will be the true revolution, in same time I'm pissed off if big alliances had access to these information and they started to sell their tech II BPOs for cash before they become obsolete. |
AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
1
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Posted - 2013.06.02 08:45:00 -
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I don't see the point in T2 BPOs. They apparently make no impact on production so why have them. Additionally, why would people be so butthurt at their removal if they're so lame? Don't really understand the probs at getting rid of them to make the game more consistent.
One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with. If however you can't then I go back to my original point. If there not useful they're just a relic of an older time which should be done away with.
They recently turned Cyclone BCs into missile boats. My missile skills are poor making my investment in a cyclone for pve void. Where's my compensation for the change in game mechanic?
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
363
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:30:00 -
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AlphaOperative Altren wrote:One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with.
Yes, however if you look at the copy and manufacturing times, they take longer to copy than manufacture.
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AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
1
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:08:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:AlphaOperative Altren wrote:One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with. Yes, however if you look at the copy and manufacturing times, they take longer to copy than manufacture.
But the initial outlay for a T2 could be recouped in a matter of months not 10 years as was previously mentioned? |
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:15:00 -
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AlphaOperative Altren wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:AlphaOperative Altren wrote:One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with. Yes, however if you look at the copy and manufacturing times, they take longer to copy than manufacture. But the initial outlay for a T2 could be recouped in a matter of months not 10 years as was previously mentioned?
You need to compare it to the equivalent of inventing the given items and then work it out from there. Of course inventing is going to be more clicky and involve a bit of ****** about, but otherwise that's your baseline to work out what the BPO's ROI is (opportunity cost and so on), plus the risk of putting out ISK for something like that when it's clear they're eventually going to disappear. |
AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
1
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:22:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:AlphaOperative Altren wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:AlphaOperative Altren wrote:One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with. Yes, however if you look at the copy and manufacturing times, they take longer to copy than manufacture. But the initial outlay for a T2 could be recouped in a matter of months not 10 years as was previously mentioned? You need to compare it to the equivalent of inventing the given items and then work it out from there. Of course inventing is going to be more clicky and involve a bit of ****** about, but otherwise that's your baseline to work out what the BPO's ROI is (opportunity cost and so on), plus the risk of putting out ISK for something like that when it's clear they're eventually going to disappear.
The whole argument confuses me to be honest. From what I can read from the forums the people that say they should stay also say they're pretty useless. My reasoning for getting rid of them, is that they sit outside of the rest of the invention path. I don't really understand the justification for keeping them in the game other than the investment people have made in them. But that stuff happens all the time in eve, game changes occur that occasionally wipe out a degree of time and iskies invested and its expected that we should just roll with it. What makes t2bpos different. |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:34:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote: funny thing is that if you read the EULA and other game relates rules... no they do not need to compensate the T2 BPO owners anything. .
It-¦s obviously not a national-law they would be breaking, BUT taking away hard worked Game items away is just something CCP has never done before and will never do. For the simple reason that nobody would trust CCP enough anymore to spend hours and hours to grind money.
So saying "they-¦d have to reimburse" is not stupid or wrong at all.
Azrael Dinn wrote: it would be a good time to get rid of those old relics anyways
CCP and the majority of the Player-base seem not to share your opinion, so it might be rather the time to stop whining after 7 years?
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Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
116
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:52:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote: funny thing is that if you read the EULA and other game relates rules... no they do not need to compensate the T2 BPO owners anything. .
It-¦s obviously not a national-law they would be breaking, BUT taking away hard worked Game items away is just something CCP has never done before and will never do. For the simple reason that nobody would trust CCP enough anymore to spend hours and hours to grind money. So saying "they-¦d have to reimburse" is not stupid or wrong at all. Azrael Dinn wrote: it would be a good time to get rid of those old relics anyways
CCP and the majority of the Player-base seem not to share your opinion, so it might be rather the time to stop whining after 7 years? AlphaOperative Altren wrote:I don't see the point in T2 BPOs. They apparently make no impact on production so why have them. Additionally, why would people be so butthurt at their removal if they're so lame?
even if they dont have a impact on the market, their removel would have quite a impact for their owners...i can`t believe that somebody had to explain you that
I didn't say it's wrong to say something like that I just stated that they can do what they want if they want and they don't need to listen to whiny nerds if they do something what they want to do.
Also when you talk about majority of the player base you mean the people commenting over and over this in the forums. Your lucky if it's even a fraction form the playerbase. Majority of the playerbase don't even care about this subject.
But as it seems your so butthurt about it, it also means you got one or two of those originals in your hangars.
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Dood Toon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:14:00 -
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So a single person is selling 179 T2 BPO-¦s and suddenly T2 BPO-¦s are one of the major problems in eve again? lol, it-¦s so predicatable
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Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:32:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote: I didn't say it's wrong to say something like that I just stated that they can do what they want
yep you did, and your doing it again. They dont have to by law, but they do have to if they don-¦t wana lose a fecal- ton of subscirptions for the mentioned reasons
Azrael Dinn wrote:if they want and they don't need to listen to whiny nerds if they do something what they want to do. exactly, but with "whiny nerds" i-¦m guessing you don-¦t mean the obvious jelly ppl "complaining" about the current situation but those who try to explain to you why their removal will never happen anyway? So it was a T2 BPO owner who brought this whiny topic up I guess.
Azrael Dinn wrote: Also when you talk about majority of the player base you mean the people commenting over and over this in the forums. Your lucky if it's even a fraction form the playerbase. Majority of the playerbase don't even care about this subject.
exactly! but you seem to care about it a lot, so all those people who don`t care about it, obviously don-¦t share your opinion. So what did I say wrong?
Azrael Dinn wrote: But as it seems your so butthurt about it, it also means you got one or two of those originals in your hangars.
going down to that level I could easily say your the butthurt one because you cant afford or dont have one... see what I did? But actually NO I dont have a T2 BPO or ever owned one, I just don-¦t like ppl wich are ignoring all facts to hide their enviousness behind those lame arguments.
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AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
2
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Posted - 2013.06.02 14:00:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote: funny thing is that if you read the EULA and other game relates rules... no they do not need to compensate the T2 BPO owners anything. .
It-¦s obviously not a national-law they would be breaking, BUT taking away hard worked Game items away is just something CCP has never done before and will never do. For the simple reason that nobody would trust CCP enough anymore to spend hours and hours to grind money. So saying "they-¦d have to reimburse" is not stupid or wrong at all. Azrael Dinn wrote: it would be a good time to get rid of those old relics anyways
CCP and the majority of the Player-base seem not to share your opinion, so it might be rather the time to stop whining after 7 years? AlphaOperative Altren wrote:I don't see the point in T2 BPOs. They apparently make no impact on production so why have them. Additionally, why would people be so butthurt at their removal if they're so lame?
even if they dont have a impact on the market, their removel would have quite a impact for their owners as an individual...i can`t believe that somebody had to explain you that
All changes have an impact on someone. The scanning changes are going to effect people who do a lot of that stuff as the competition will be higher, ice roid changes. I've recently lost the ability to fly cyclones effectively as my missile skills aren't up to mustard. Like I said every change eve makes causes someone a problem, what makes t2 bpos any different.
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Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.06.02 14:42:00 -
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AlphaOperative Altren wrote:
All changes have an impact on someone. The scanning changes are going to effect people who do a lot of that stuff as the competition will be higher, ice roid changes. I've recently lost the ability to fly cyclones effectively as my missile skills aren't up to mustard. Like I said every change eve makes causes someone a problem, what makes t2 bpos any different.
changing something is something completly different than just taking it away from your hangar like you guys ask for T2 BPO-¦s. Also the tiny difference of the value of a T2 BPO and a Cyclone does also make a difference.
But most importantly, Why should they remove those prints, when it's proven that they don't rly hurt anyone and nobody has a unfair advantage through them? just to stop ppl bitching who doesnt understand that?
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
975
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:23:00 -
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Kirkwood Ross wrote:They are selling them now because in the winter expansion (Revolution) all T2 BPOs are having their ME/PE set to -5 and cannot be reasearched or copied anymore. Some other notable changes are POS manufactoring slots and research slots can be opened up to the public. The Orca is getting a mineral compression ability. PI/POS layouts can be saved for easy deployment. And i'm probably making this up because it's in the middle of a wall of text and no one will read it. There will also be Rogue Drone faction ships. Lol great post. You picked up two fish with that! Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Haulie Berry
852
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:27:00 -
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AlphaOperative Altren wrote:I don't see the point in T2 BPOs. They apparently make no impact on production so why have them. Additionally, why would people be so butthurt at their removal if they're so lame? Don't really understand the probs at getting rid of them to make the game more consistent.
Here's an idea: We can remove T2 BPOs, but we're going to deduct from your wallet the exact market worth of the largest sum held in the form of BPOs by an individual or organization. This will probably set your wallet negative, but that won't have any impact on me, so it's okay, right?
Quote:One other question, can they be copied? If so the 10 year ROI doesn't make sense as you could buy for 10bil run a ton of copies then sell for 10bil but with nice tidy stack of bpcs to play with. If however you can't then I go back to my original point. If there not useful they're just a relic of an older time which should be done away with.
Yes, they can be copied. Doing so actually lowers the ROI.
Quote:They recently turned Cyclone BCs into missile boats. My missile skills are poor making my investment in a cyclone for pve void. Where's my compensation for the change in game mechanic?
Not even remotely analogous. Your cyclone still exists and its market value is trivially recuperated. |
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