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j0sephine	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:21:00 - [361] "After changes.. Raven/Apoc can now use 5 heavies. With the damage output of currently 10 heavies." Drone bays are being halved. Meaning post-changes Raven/Apoc can use 3 heavies, with damage output of 6... just like now.
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:21:00 - [362] "After changes.. Raven/Apoc can now use 5 heavies. With the damage output of currently 10 heavies." Drone bays are being halved. Meaning post-changes Raven/Apoc can use 3 heavies, with damage output of 6... just like now.
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:21:00 - [363] Originally by: Dimitri Forgroth Haven't read rest of replies, don't really care, heres my own thoughts on this change. Godawful. Why? Specialist drone carriers are nerfed, other drone carriers are boosted. How? Exactly. Now that everyone and their dog can field 5 heavy drones, Dom becomes a waste of hangar space. It has crappy grid and crappy everything else, the whole point of the ship was lots of drones. If now it only has a bit more damage with a certain type of drone, it becomes useless -- with other battleships you get almost the same drone output and also all the other good stuff (good grid, weaponry, bonuses). I'll repeat: 1) change the Dom (and Ishtar) bonus to +5% per level to all drone damage types 2) keep their current drone bay sizes, so they can switch drones and damage types according to situation That would let them keep their "drone ship" role. The current proposal kills it.
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:24:00 - [364] Originally by: Jim Raynor Now as far as drones, and the racial thermal bonus, I think it's fair. Drones can do very good DPS on a ship with a large drone bay, they require no fitting, they leave your ship setup very flexible for PvP. The only weakness is the fact drones can be destroyed. If I can fit enough drones on my Dom to switch to any of the 4 damage types at will (as you can with Raven and cruises, for example), I'll sort of agree with you. As is, I don't. If you could only fit one salvo of missiles in a Raven cargo bay, would you take people's claims of "hey, you can switch damage types!" seriously? Thought not.
NTRabbit	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:24:00 - [365] Edited by: NTRabbit on 31/10/2005 17:25:11 Its amazing how few people have actually read the entire post and blog Tuxford wrote. Half the front page is from people who got to the EWAR title and paniced, let alone the post two up from this one. --------
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:24:00 - [366] Originally by: Jim Raynor Now as far as drones, and the racial thermal bonus, I think it's fair. Drones can do very good DPS on a ship with a large drone bay, they require no fitting, they leave your ship setup very flexible for PvP. The only weakness is the fact drones can be destroyed. If I can fit enough drones on my Dom to switch to any of the 4 damage types at will (as you can with Raven and cruises, for example), I'll sort of agree with you. As is, I don't. If you could only fit one salvo of missiles in a Raven cargo bay, would you take people's claims of "hey, you can switch damage types!" seriously? Thought not.
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:24:00 - [367] Edited by: NTRabbit on 31/10/2005 17:25:11 Its amazing how few people have actually read the entire post and blog Tuxford wrote. Half the front page is from people who got to the EWAR title and paniced, let alone the post two up from this one. ------
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:25:00 - [368] "Exactly. Now that everyone and their dog can field 5 heavy drones, Dom becomes a waste of hangar space." Uhh, no? "the everyone and their dog" is limited to _2_ ships: * armageddon * typhoon dunno which is supposed to be everyone and which is supposed to be the dog, but that's it. Every other ship can field no more than 3 drones...
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:25:00 - [369] "Exactly. Now that everyone and their dog can field 5 heavy drones, Dom becomes a waste of hangar space." Uhh, no? "the everyone and their dog" is limited to _2_ ships: * armageddon * typhoon dunno which is supposed to be everyone and which is supposed to be the dog, but that's it. Every other ship can field no more than 3 drones...
Forsch	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:26:00 - [370] Originally by: j0sephine dunno which is supposed to be everyone and which is supposed to be the dog, but that's it. lol that one should be obvious. The Auctoritan Syndicate Defenders of the Empire - Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:26:00 - [371] ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:26:00 - [372] Originally by: j0sephine dunno which is supposed to be everyone and which is supposed to be the dog, but that's it. lol that one should be obvious. Forsch Defender of the empire What have you done CCP..
Grimpak Gallente Twisted Attitude Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:26:00 - [373] ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:27:00 - [374] Originally by: Alex Harumichi Originally by: Jim Raynor Now as far as drones, and the racial thermal bonus, I think it's fair. Drones can do very good DPS on a ship with a large drone bay, they require no fitting, they leave your ship setup very flexible for PvP. The only weakness is the fact drones can be destroyed. If I can fit enough drones on my Dom to switch to any of the 4 damage types at will (as you can with Raven and cruises, for example), I'll sort of agree with you. As is, I don't. If you could only fit one salvo of missiles in a Raven cargo bay, would you take people's claims of "hey, you can switch damage types!" seriously? Thought not. When did a cruise missile raven become uber? What was said when the missile changes came? Adapt or Die? Well, adapt to the changes, just like everyone who flew caldari ships had to. ------ If Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock embracing one another, in a bath tube, nude, in space, is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:27:00 - [375] Originally by: Alex Harumichi Originally by: Jim Raynor Now as far as drones, and the racial thermal bonus, I think it's fair. Drones can do very good DPS on a ship with a large drone bay, they require no fitting, they leave your ship setup very flexible for PvP. The only weakness is the fact drones can be destroyed. If I can fit enough drones on my Dom to switch to any of the 4 damage types at will (as you can with Raven and cruises, for example), I'll sort of agree with you. As is, I don't. If you could only fit one salvo of missiles in a Raven cargo bay, would you take people's claims of "hey, you can switch damage types!" seriously? Thought not. When did a cruise missile raven become uber? What was said when the missile changes came? Adapt or Die? Well, adapt to the changes, just like everyone who flew caldari ships had to. ------ I'll make a sig later.
Forsch	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:29:00 - [376] Originally by: Jim Raynor Well, adapt to the changes, just like everyone who flew caldari ships had to. It's not too late yet. That's why we have this post and the test server. And I am sure Tuxford sees how many people have concerns with especially the racial dmg bonus here. The Auctoritan Syndicate Defenders of the Empire - Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:29:00 - [377] Originally by: Jim Raynor Well, adapt to the changes, just like everyone who flew caldari ships had to. It's not too late yet. That's why we have this post and the test server. And I am sure Tuxford sees how many people have concerns with especially the racial dmg bonus here. Forsch Defender of the empire What have you done CCP..
NTRabbit	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:30:00 - [378] Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Well with the 20% bonus to mining yield from Drone Interfacing, it means that your 5 mining drones are going to have the same mining ability as roughly 12-15 do now i think. --------
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:30:00 - [379] Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Well with the 20% bonus to mining yield from Drone Interfacing, it means that your 5 mining drones are going to have the same mining ability as roughly 12-15 do now i think. ------
Dimitri Forgroth	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:33:00 - [380] Edited by: Dimitri Forgroth on 31/10/2005 17:34:09 Oh and about missiles being racial damage types etc, so why shouldn't drones be: Go argue your point for missile bonuses being to all types in another thread. Using one bad point of another weapon system/ship type to try and nerf another weapon system is just wrong and stupid. Time to leave this thread and hope for the best on test server. DPS Sheet
Xanta	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:33:00 - [381] Originally by: NTRabbit Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Well with the 20% bonus to mining yield from Drone Interfacing, it means that your 5 mining drones are going to have the same mining ability as roughly 12-15 do now i think. well the domi/vex/arb/ish(lol) will lose some of mining ability i guess but the other ships will be ok as the mining drones are small and 5 will still fit easy
Xanta Insubstantial Industries	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:33:00 - [382] Originally by: NTRabbit Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Well with the 20% bonus to mining yield from Drone Interfacing, it means that your 5 mining drones are going to have the same mining ability as roughly 12-15 do now i think. well the domi/vex/arb/ish(lol) will lose some of mining ability i guess but the other ships will be ok as the mining drones are small and 5 will still fit easy
Dimitri Forgroth The Bolt	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:33:00 - [383] Edited by: Dimitri Forgroth on 31/10/2005 17:34:09 Oh and about missiles being racial damage types etc, so why shouldn't drones be: Go argue your point for missile bonuses being to all types in another thread. Using one bad point of another weapon system/ship type to try and nerf another weapon system is just wrong and stupid. Time to leave this thread and hope for the best on test server. DPS Sheet
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:34:00 - [384] Originally by: DrunkenOne PS: If it can still use 3 light drones, 3 webbing drones will make the taranis GODLY. Yeah it might just be able to challenge an autoclaw in a 1on1 then My Latest Vid: Linky
Eyeshadow Caldari The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:34:00 - [385] Originally by: DrunkenOne PS: If it can still use 3 light drones, 3 webbing drones will make the taranis GODLY. Yeah it might just be able to challenge an autoclaw in a 1on1 then
Smithers	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:36:00 - [386] /me wonders if the build time on t2 combat drones will be increased in accordance with this so instead of taking 20misn they take like 1hr or something?
Smithers Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:36:00 - [387] /me wonders if the build time on t2 combat drones will be increased in accordance with this so instead of taking 20misn they take like 1hr or something?
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:37:00 - [388] Mega can use 5 hevays after the changes too. It'll be much better than Domi now, since Domi and mega can hav eas many drones out at once but Domi does more Thermal damage and can hold extras. For other than being able to carry more thna 1 drone setup and doing more damage with 1 damage type, drone ships aren't much better with drones than normal ships, that have more guns, grid, CPU and slots. Still, Domi with 5 EW, 5 tank and 5 damge drone sis scary, but Ishtar got nerfed real bad
Jon Xylur Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:37:00 - [389] Mega can use 5 hevays after the changes too. It'll be much better than Domi now, since Domi and mega can hav eas many drones out at once but Domi does more Thermal damage and can hold extras. For other than being able to carry more thna 1 drone setup and doing more damage with 1 damage type, drone ships aren't much better with drones than normal ships, that have more guns, grid, CPU and slots. Still, Domi with 5 EW, 5 tank and 5 damge drone sis scary, but Ishtar got nerfed real bad Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Spuki	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:40:00 - [390] Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: DrunkenOne PS: If it can still use 3 light drones, 3 webbing drones will make the taranis GODLY. Yeah it might just be able to challenge an autoclaw in a 1on1 then The autoclaw problem will be solved with the plate mass changes. If there really should be ew (especially webbing) drones, id recommend that the taranis gets its drone bay reduced to about zero and maybe a slightly boost in hp or speed. Otherwise it will become overpowered as hell.

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