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Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:53:00 -
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I think we should get rid of the attribute enhancing effects of all implants ( no more +1 to +5 and the like, but still keep the slave sets and the like ).
In place of this, just give us all a 20 point base per attribute, in stead of a 17 point base, while keeping the redistributable points the same ( effectively giving us +3, just not with implants ).
Why? Well, i have been flying around eve with +5 implants for over a year and because of them, heavily avoided any form of PvP ( i didn't wanna lose them ). However, my luck ran out about 2 weeks ago and actually, i was kinda relieved ( no more fear of losing them ).
Now i am starting to go into and really enjoying PvP.
I think getting rid of the attribute enhancers, will help a lot more people to get into PvP, it will at least lower the "fear" factor.
Tell me what you think.
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Aurora Fatalis
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:59:00 -
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Or just get an empty Jump Clone and use that one for PvP? |
Mark Androcius
113
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:16:00 -
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Aurora Fatalis wrote:Or just get an empty Jump Clone and use that one for PvP?
See, the problem with that is, you need to train a skill for that and at the same time, it assumes you know this is a possibility.
Also, i do have jump-clones, but jumping out of +5s for 24 hours or more, is not ideal. ( that's 450 sp per hour and therefore at least 10800 SP total, provided you will be online at the time the 24h have passed ).
Doing it this way, it will also be equal for everyone and only remapping correctly will give you the edge. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
170
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:32:00 -
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Jump clone with a pair of +2 or +3 implants for current attribute remap or even a single +3 implant for the primary attribute your skill training is currently using.
Also prerequisites for the jump clone skills are (wait for it..) non existent and it's a rank 1 skill so there really is no excuse for not training it.
The 24 hour cycle time is an issue though. There have been several requests for another skill to lower that down but I haven't seen any dev response on those threads. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
384
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:35:00 -
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You have a choice, risk your implants (or rather the cost of replacing them) and learn skills faster or learn slower and risk less.
I can't see any reason to change this.
Personally, I risk less at the cost of learning slower unless I'm in high sec and pretty sure I'm not going to bet popped. That's the choice I've made, sounds like you've made yours. It's just another of the decisions you have to make in the game. |
Palamon
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:50:00 -
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Can I suggest...
More flexibility for clones and clone swapping |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
384
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:55:00 -
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Not a bad idea. I likes. |
StoneCold
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
191
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:10:00 -
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If you measure the fun of playing eve in skillpoints / hour you-Śre doing it wrong (imo). Attribute enhancers are a (needed) ISK think.
I would-Śnt pvp in +5s aswell, but a few +3s is not that bad.
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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:29:00 -
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No, because the very thing that makes Eve great is that everything has consequences. The path you are heading down is the same path most MMO's take in that PvP has zero consequences. It starts with removing Attribute Imps, then moves to re-introducing 100% ship Insurance, then someone suggests Module/Rig 100% insurance, etc. PvP SHOULD have consequences, even if that's undocking your ship in a 1.0 while you aren't war dec'd by anyone and you get suicided by 100 throw away ships.
EDIT: When I PvP on my 2nd account (actual PvP toon) I almost always use a full set of +3's and +3% Hardwirings. They're reasonably cheap and give me an edge. The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
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Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:05:00 -
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TL;DR:
'I am a risk averse coward. CCP, change the game to suit me personally.' |
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:18:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:TL;DR:
'I am a risk averse coward. CCP, change the game to suit me personally.'
this....
Extra days/weeks/months riding out boosted sp trains does not help you for pvp. Its learned by doing. many aspsects of it are not tied to any skill trained in game. I have seen several year carebears come out to 0.0 uber sp....and there was people like me who went to 0.0 in a month from starting eve showing them how things work just 6 months later into the game. Some converted bears were cool, they knew that they did not know and listened to any and all help they could get no sp-ego getting in the way. Others were asshats....fine jackass I am glad you made billions bearing for years, the way you fly you will be burning up ships like its crazy lol.
A good noght of pvp should have you have not even caring about lost sp. I had meatgrinder nights I was losing ships and pods like crazy to the point I stopped putting in +3's. I had a blast those nights, learned alot, lost sp not even on the concern radar.
If a player is using this as excuse to not pvp, if ccp did this they would find another one basically. |
Gaara's sniper
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:25:00 -
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did i just read how a guy lost a set of +5s and because +5 set hurts his wallet but he wants to have that awesome +5 to all attributes he suggests that we all get rid of implants?
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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:28:00 -
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I wonder how many ways there are to tell the op to go f*** himself without getting banned? For low sp pilots like me, those are my closest ways of having gear of a similar proficiency to complete with other players without waiting as long. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |
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