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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:48:00 -
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So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2032
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:49:00 -
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sad_trombone.wav
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
422
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:50:00 -
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Want some cheese with that whine? |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2584
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:50:00 -
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Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I hope you learned the important lesson of not leaving stuff till the last second.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1531
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:51:00 -
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Are you just putting all the cry threads into one OP?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3254
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:51:00 -
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You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Zinn Tesla Hadron
Quantum Convent
7
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:53:00 -
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Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I have a better idea for you:
1. delete your eve folder. 2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed. 3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better. 4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP.
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
52
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:54:00 -
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Excellent |

Lexmana
962
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:57:00 -
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Obvious troll. Don't feed it. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14488
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:04:00 -
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You've been surprised by an event that was announced 1-+ years ago. Tbh, you should have all your other frigate and cruiser skills reset to 0 before the patch goes in as punishment for your failure. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Sentamon
981
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:06:00 -
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Thanks for sharing. I needed the laugh. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:10:00 -
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Jacob Muvila wrote:This is a new character I purchased
The lack of reading comprehension skill is ******* astounding. My other accounts have been done for months. This character was bought and it had enough time to get this trained. One of the reasons I bought it. But holy **** people please learn to comprehend what you read.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1395
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:10:00 -
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habloobloo.avi Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Cat Casidy
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
134
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:11:00 -
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you're dumb SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars
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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:17:00 -
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Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I have a better idea for you: 1. delete your eve folder. 2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed. 3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better. 4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP. Was this an attempt to be funny? Take at least 5 to 10 minutes next time and think before you post something stupid like this. I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
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Cage Man
221
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:19:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change.
Yea, because everyone was playing EVE a year ago ..  Perhaps you could try petition for the sp you lost while not training during the "black out". Being reasonable has its merits 
The thick plottens... |

Charlie Jacobson
149
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:20:00 -
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Having purchased the char changes nothing. You knew what you were buying, yet here you are. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
424
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:20:00 -
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Jacob Muvila wrote:Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I have a better idea for you: 1. delete your eve folder. 2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed. 3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better. 4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP. Was this an attempt to be funny? Take at least 5 to 10 minutes next time and think before you post something stupid like this. I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
You played for so damn long you could not arrange to have a skill queu of more than 24 hours to cover in case something went wrong on either your side or CCP? You sound like a noob to me. |

Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
13
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:21:00 -
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File a petition. We can't do anything about it. I suggest filing it before the patch so they see you are being proactive. |

Obunagawe
102
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:23:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
You played for so damn long you could not arrange to have a skill queu of more than 24 hours to cover in case something went wrong on either your side or CCP? You sound like a noob to me.
Confirming Frigate 4's and Cruiser 3's lend themselves well to long skillqueues. |

ColdCutz
Frigonometry
84
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:26:00 -
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Cat Casidy wrote:you're dumb +1 for the correct spelling of you're |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
424
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:27:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:
You played for so damn long you could not arrange to have a skill queu of more than 24 hours to cover in case something went wrong on either your side or CCP? You sound like a noob to me.
Confirming Frigate 4's and Cruiser 3's lend themselves well to long skillqueues.
Wait till the first is just under 24 hours and queu the next one right at that point? If you need a filler in the mean time, fitting skill on brand new pilots can fill in the gap really easyly. I know because thats how I made them while I had to travel across the country and having my computer shipped. |

Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
145
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:28:00 -
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No such skill as cruiser 3.
Cruiser skills are racial.
Troll is Obvious. |

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
535
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:29:00 -
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And when you get in game and it occurs to you, you can queue all 4 Racial BC Skills that you will have seeded to your sheet and train them off to 3 in around 6 or 7 hrs, go in a corner and stuff your head up your ass plox. |

Shaun Klaroh
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:31:00 -
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I can understand the dude's disappointment but there's more to it than just simply "Gimmie SP". |

Zinn Tesla Hadron
Quantum Convent
9
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:31:00 -
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Jacob Muvila wrote:
I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
Considering your sense of entitlement, my guess is however long you've been playing eve, it's been carebear country from start to finish.
Poor Baby |

KrakizBad
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
1347
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:33:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:sad_trombone.wav
I read this "wahh, wahh, waaaaaaahhhh".
Also, sucks to be you OP. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
303
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:40:00 -
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Thanks for the laugh OP I figured there was at least 1 person out there who did this. Not today spaghetti. |

Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
650
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:41:00 -
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Idiots getting trolled, just stop posting.
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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:57:00 -
[30] - Quote
Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:
I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
Considering your sense of entitlement, my guess is however long you've been playing eve, it's been carebear country from start to finish. Poor Baby
Yup you got me there. LOL I see you travel in and out of null in a shuttle you thrill seeker you. nullbears make me laugh though. Even if it is a scout your doing it wrong can't even get your pod out. I was hesitant to even call you a nullbear I would guess you probably traveled to 00 a few times in a shuttle and think you are some 1337 EVE player. Come do some C6 living without your gate camps and local channel see how long you last.
And that video was stupid. Why are you not in school kid? |

lnvictu5
Amalgamation and Capital
0
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:16:00 -
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What I don't get is why come here and cry to the whole community? Submit your petition and make your case to CCP. That is unless you figured an outpouring of sympathy here would increase your chances of success.
It would appear that not very much sympathy is forthcoming. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9820
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:24:00 -
[32] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late.
1 Kings 12:11
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
975
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:25:00 -
[33] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:sad_trombone.wav
I lol'd 
I think it's funny to see people complain about something that was announced almost a year ago. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |

Aida Nu
Nu Industries
83
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:27:00 -
[34] - Quote
Sucks to be youuuuu trolololol |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:42:00 -
[35] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late.
Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:45:00 -
[36] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp?
Oh you poor dear!  |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:46:00 -
[37] - Quote
ColdCutz wrote:Cat Casidy wrote:you're dumb +1 for the correct spelling of you're
+1 for recognising the correct grammar of "you're". |

Hernan Johuihen
Zero Atmosphere Ex Cinere Scriptor
36
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:46:00 -
[38] - Quote
this is GD or tears discussion? |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
129
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:48:00 -
[39] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
Cry me a river. He's just saying what we are all thinking.... and staying. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

Elepherious
Dracos Dozen Trifectas Syndicate
9
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:53:00 -
[40] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
Let the rage flow through you... Good.... Your tears are the liquid that sustains the Hamsters... Let it flow!
And of course there was a vulnerability... That's the interwebz bud. If there is a crevice, it will be explored especially if it is public knowledge... If you believe you are safe, just post up your public IP and let's see. |

Zinn Tesla Hadron
Quantum Convent
10
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:58:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
With every post you are confirming what a whiney little ***** you are. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4210
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:59:00 -
[42] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end. Well, at least he is consistent in his ignorance. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9821
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:05:00 -
[43] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
You had a year.
So yeah I guess this is totally my fault or something.
1 Kings 12:11
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
259
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
While I think the OP sounds like an ass in his tone, a lot of people weren't able to access their training queues over the weekend. It would be nice to get some SP for this. Glory |

iskflakes
490
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP should give us all 300k skillpoints and one day game time. - |

Sekhen
Majestic-5
3
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:*Bitching and whining*
Harden The **** Up! |

Joxxy
Vrane Club
13
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:14:00 -
[47] - Quote
Thats horrible.
I'm really glad you made a forum post about it all. I feel your pain.
Worst thing is you are the only one in this situation in whole New Eden and that makes it all the more worse.
But chin up old sport, stiffen that upper lip. Walk with your head held up high. |

Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
146
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:44:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
Quit the trolling.
You had a year. A year! You are crying for a few hours worth of skills on racial cruisers. If you want to make it another post about we all lost SP so give us some, go for it. As far as it being for your cruiser. It's either BS or amazing amounts of stupid.  |

ion papanoida
Pissed Every Night Including Sundays
0
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
OMFG i was having a bad day until i read this. makes me feel all that much better now.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaahahahahahahahaha
ever heard erly bird catches the worm. or in ur case early bird dont catch the free SP cos he a muppet who let it to late muwahahahahahaha :P
peace out i feel ur pain Honest |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:25:00 -
[50] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end. You had a year. So yeah I guess this is totally my fault or something.
Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days.
This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass.
They will not know your name, they do not give a **** who you are. You all only look like a bunch of suck up fan boys who one can't stand to see a negative thing said about their game. And two think that CCP might reward you in some way for being a kiss ass. I understand that for 99% of you (this is a factual number) that "EVE IS REAL" I know this is your life blood. I know that this is your escape and a way to get back at the cruel cruel world that shuns you at every corner. A way to get back at the boss who promoted the more qualified guy. Or pay back for all the bullys who took your lunch money back in school. Revenge for the girl that turned you down and laughed at you.
But it is non of those things. It is a business. A business has one sole reason to exist that's profits. You can bet your sweet ass the moment EVE stops making profit and money it will only be a short time after that it gets shut down. You will be left with nothing all the kissing ass and brown nosing would have done nothing (just like it's doing nothing now) EVE is doing well now it isn't dying but everything does end be it 1 year or 20 years from now. And if compensation helps to keep customers money rolling in you can bet they will do it. And they are in fact coming up with compensation plans so I guess I win after all huh?
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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 22:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Ireland VonVicious wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end. Quit the trolling. You had a year. A year! You are crying for a few hours worth of skills on racial cruisers. If you want to make it another post about we all lost SP so give us some, go for it. As far as it being for your cruiser. It's either BS or amazing amounts of stupid. 
Learn to read, then learn to comprehend what you read then come back and do some more CCP kiss assing. They are comping everyone so I win like I said before. Thanks have a nice day.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
233
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 22:30:00 -
[52] - Quote
ITT: OP makes a poor purchasing decision with regards to his character; blames CCP for his lack of forethought. |

Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
68
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 22:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Too f'ing bad. :18 months: of warning is your fault for waiting so long to train it on the alt. I even made a new one 33 days ago and using +3s with a cerebral accelorator, she will have all racial bc's to 5 and destroyers to 4.
As to having a vulnerability in their system; gtfo. Ever single computer network has some kind of weakness at some point in their structure. It doesnt matter where it is, how it is secured; eventually that hole will be exploited whether you secure it, know about it or not or even do nothing in the hopes its such a vague hole no one will do anything with it. Which they will.
Having a hole isnt their fault 100% because ever system has holes. You should have planned further ahead with your character purchase and training. HTFU |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 22:52:00 -
[54] - Quote
Korvus Falek wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Too f'ing bad. :18 months: of warning is your fault for waiting so long to train it on the alt. I even made a new one 33 days ago and using +3s with a cerebral accelorator, she will have all racial bc's to 5 and destroyers to 4. As to having a vulnerability in their system; gtfo. Ever single computer network has some kind of weakness at some point in their structure. It doesnt matter where it is, how it is secured; eventually that hole will be exploited whether you secure it, know about it or not or even do nothing in the hopes its such a vague hole no one will do anything with it. Which they will. Having a hole isnt their fault 100% because ever system has holes. You should have planned further ahead with your character purchase and training. HTFU
TL:DL I love CCP they can do no wrong EVE is my life. And my other two characters are already set with dessie 5 bc 5 and will be good for command ships and indictors so gtfo. We all know how much EVE means to all of you. This type of rage is amazing I already know I am getting comped as CCP has said they are going to comp people.
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Blake Gates Heleneto
Clandestine Management Group SiNTaX err0r
58
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 22:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Come on people, don't feed the troll. He's obviously a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Let this thread and every one like just die out. CCP will laugh at his petition and promptly deny it. Then he'll probably quit and have his Mom buy him another game. We win at that point. |

Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
68
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 23:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Korvus Falek wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Too f'ing bad. :18 months: of warning is your fault for waiting so long to train it on the alt. I even made a new one 33 days ago and using +3s with a cerebral accelorator, she will have all racial bc's to 5 and destroyers to 4. As to having a vulnerability in their system; gtfo. Ever single computer network has some kind of weakness at some point in their structure. It doesnt matter where it is, how it is secured; eventually that hole will be exploited whether you secure it, know about it or not or even do nothing in the hopes its such a vague hole no one will do anything with it. Which they will. Having a hole isnt their fault 100% because ever system has holes. You should have planned further ahead with your character purchase and training. HTFU TL:DL I love CCP they can do no wrong EVE is my life. And my other two characters are already set with dessie 5 bc 5 and will be good for command ships and indictors so gtfo. We all know how much EVE means to all of you. This type of rage is amazing I already know I am getting comped as CCP has said they are going to comp people.
Link to comping statements? And do you actually have the command ships and dictors skills injected or are you going to post again later complaining youre gonna need another few weeks training leadership skills for the CS's???
No rage or fanboi'ism here, I just despise the entitlement so many retards like yourself feel you should be given. CCP could turn off and delete EvE tomorrow and theres not **** you or I could do about it. Your character isnt actually yours. Your skills and your ships are not yours. They are CCP's.
You only pay for access to the server, their world. The only compensation you should even feel entitled to is maybe the few hours the server was down. No skillpoints, no free ****, no adjustment so you can get your poorly planned, bought character skills at the very last minute handed to you.
So yeah, htfu or gtfo. |

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
151
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 23:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
Boo Hoo |

Zinn Tesla Hadron
Quantum Convent
13
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 23:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:
Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days.
This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass.
They will not know your name, they do not give a **** who you are. You all only look like a bunch of suck up fan boys who one can't stand to see a negative thing said about their game. And two think that CCP might reward you in some way for being a kiss ass. I understand that for 99% of you (this is a factual number) that "EVE IS REAL" I know this is your life blood. I know that this is your escape and a way to get back at the cruel cruel world that shuns you at every corner. A way to get back at the boss who promoted the more qualified guy. Or pay back for all the bullys who took your lunch money back in school. Revenge for the girl that turned you down and laughed at you.
But it is non of those things. It is a business. A business has one sole reason to exist that's profits. You can bet your sweet ass the moment EVE stops making profit and money it will only be a short time after that it gets shut down. You will be left with nothing all the kissing ass and brown nosing would have done nothing (just like it's doing nothing now) EVE is doing well now it isn't dying but everything does end be it 1 year or 20 years from now. And if compensation helps to keep customers money rolling in you can bet they will do it. And they are in fact coming up with compensation plans so I guess I win after all huh?
Jacob Muvila: The b**** that keeps on giving. |

xXxKahhxXx
Academia SPANI SPANI Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 23:45:00 -
[59] - Quote
A ver hestudiao |

Dave Stark
3072
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:52:00 -
[60] - Quote
and you didn't think to train racial cruisers before battlecruisers because? |

Adel Stevens
Nuclear Biomass Destruction
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.03 23:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
Stop the insanity.... I didn't read all three pages of posts, but let me clarify... You did not lose any training time while the server was down unless you did not have anything in your queue. I checked all my characters, confirmed with friends, asked my killer, asked my bait, and lastly asked my targets if they missed any SP over the last two days due to the server being down. The answer is check skill history tab, see when the last skill completed if you have less than the expected SP since the skill completed and YOU DID HAVE SOMETHING IN THE QUEUE, petition, otherwise grow a pair and realize you failed to plan. Failure on your behalf should come at no cost to anyone other then thyself. Repeat the mantra, "It is my fault, it is no one elses, I shall regret my mistakes and work to not make them again." REPEAT...
Edit: Fixed Typos |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
434
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:05:00 -
[62] - Quote
And BTW, PRO TIP everybody from a noob, make sure you put a LONG skill in your queu when the patch hit so we can avoid any form of bitching about potential SP lost if it takes more than than planned to apply everything. |

Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
68
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:07:00 -
[63] - Quote
Contrary to popular belief......... your name is NOT Mr Epeen.
And it is not all about you.
Personally i hope CCP gives us nothing, just so i can harvest more of your delicious tears.
You are nothing more than a whiny little ****wit and people like you need a good slap to the head. Next thing you know we'll read about you whining how hail damaged your car, therefore the government of the country you live in (according to your logic) is legally bound to give you a new car.
You strike me as the kinda guy that will make mistakes due to your own incompetence but look for any possible way to blame somebody else. |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
Korvus Falek wrote: . CCP could turn off and delete EvE tomorrow and theres not **** you or I could do about it.
Trust me this would hurt you and everyone else here more then it would hurt me. EVE is not my life no video game is. I know this isn't the case for most people. That is why there is always so much rage and hate towards anyone who puts down CCP or EVE. This is fanboiism at it's very core. Said something bad about CCP everyone flocks like a bunch of mad dogs to defend CCP's honor? at any rate I've been playing EVE for 6 years on my main. My other alt is 5 years old and this new one I have had for about a 2 months. And yup my command and indictor books are all injected.
If you are offended because I stated the fact that CCP ****** up then oh well get over it THEY ****** UP. And how can we even be so sure that our info is 100% safe? This could be something they said just to keep everyone calm for all you know all of our info has been compromised and CCP is covering it up. Again just taking CCP's word for it and not using rational thinking or logic at all.
If in fact our info was stolen what is more cost effective ? Tell us about it or lie? This again proves fanboiism instead of taking caution and asking questions you blindly follow and believe that CCP has you me or anyone else but them self in their best interest. They care about money nothing else. Not your loyality. Not the fact that you and others like you will take to the forums and defend CCP to the death. They care about that monthly payment.
It is amazing that people forget Greed is good so quickly.
All the crying and uproar and everyone saying they will quit. And yet the AUR store still sits and brings in money. Everyone wanted it gone but guess what? It makes money for little effort there for it stays. If you are not the epitome of a fanboy then I am the Queen of England. If
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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pepper Solette wrote:Contrary to popular belief......... your name is NOT Mr Epeen.
And it is not all about you.
Personally i hope CCP gives us nothing, just so i can harvest more of your delicious tears.
You are nothing more than a whiny little ****wit and people like you need a good slap to the head. Next thing you know we'll read about you whining how hail damaged your car, therefore the government of the country you live in (according to your logic) is legally bound to give you a new car.
You strike me as the kinda guy that will make mistakes due to your own incompetence but look for any possible way to blame somebody else.
The funny thing is never in a million years would your squirrelly ass ever raise a hand to anyone. That's why people like you play EVE. EVE is your way to get that head slap in that you so wish you could do to someone in real life, but are to much of a chicken **** to ever act on anything. That is one of the biggest problems with EVE if people like you. Ones who do not have the balls to stand up for your self in a real life confrontation, so you take to EVE and let out all that rage. Most of you would probably be serial killers if you had any balls.
I take this from a reply about the DDOS attack. By KhanneaSuntzu. Hit the nail right on the head with this statement too.
"Eve Online is an amazingly well balanced and well designed game. Sadly it also brings out the lowest of the lowest in humans and human psychology. The game is inundated with people who swelter in psychopathic and anti-social behavior.
This will increasingly cause "blowback" - people completely taken apart inside the game will seek recourse to attacking the venue from the outside." http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/02/eve-online-dust-514-servers/
But if you think you are ever up to the task let me know fatty. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
90
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:18:00 -
[66] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end. You had a year. So yeah I guess this is totally my fault or something.
Didn't even need a year. The new character I started in February finished BC 5 last month. And Destroyer 5. And all the Cruiser skills to 4. |

Miss MaxxJaxX
Royal Dutch Secret Service
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
Moarr booboo |

Kyra Quinn
We Are Really Scary
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
I've been reading this thread in amazement, partially because of the rather... hyped tone the OP is using but also because of the ignorance and lack of reading that is going on.
New characters, bought characters or any others who had to decide a short while ago to try and get the required skills for the changes can (not necessarily) be caught out by the game being offline for 1-2 days. That's quite a logical thing to happen, in this case and probably in others as well it has happened. It's not the player's fault and anyone going "you had a year" obviously didn't read the OP or thought about the situation, or is just trolling of course.
Should there be compensation because the server was offline for a day or two? Normally I'd say no but in this specific case with the whole skill changes it would be logical for CCP to do so. It's now ofcourse too late to implement it but, without raging like the OP, I would have expected CCP to understand this specific issue and act on it. The adventures of a newbie: http://kyraquinn.wordpress.com/ |

Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
300
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ireland VonVicious wrote:No such skill as cruiser 3.
Cruiser skills are racial.
Troll is Obvious.
I'm starting to wonder myself.. |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Kyra Quinn wrote:I've been reading this thread in amazement, partially because of the rather... hyped tone the OP is using but also because of the ignorance and lack of reading that is going on.
New characters, bought characters or any others who had to decide a short while ago to try and get the required skills for the changes can (not necessarily) be caught out by the game being offline for 1-2 days. That's quite a logical thing to happen, in this case and probably in others as well it has happened. It's not the player's fault and anyone going "you had a year" obviously didn't read the OP or thought about the situation, or is just trolling of course.
Should there be compensation because the server was offline for a day or two? Normally I'd say no but in this specific case with the whole skill changes it would be logical for CCP to do so. It's now ofcourse too late to implement it but, without raging like the OP, I would have expected CCP to understand this specific issue and act on it.
This is something that happened to me and it started out with the intents to see if CCP could or would right a wrong. They these guys became such easy targets. But yes I am not about 10 hours short of Amarr cruiser 3 |

Kanmar Centae
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Kyra Quinn wrote:I've been reading this thread in amazement, partially because of the rather... hyped tone the OP is using but also because of the ignorance and lack of reading that is going on.
New characters, bought characters or any others who had to decide a short while ago to try and get the required skills for the changes can (not necessarily) be caught out by the game being offline for 1-2 days. That's quite a logical thing to happen, in this case and probably in others as well it has happened. It's not the player's fault and anyone going "you had a year" obviously didn't read the OP or thought about the situation, or is just trolling of course.
Should there be compensation because the server was offline for a day or two? Normally I'd say no but in this specific case with the whole skill changes it would be logical for CCP to do so. It's now ofcourse too late to implement it but, without raging like the OP, I would have expected CCP to understand this specific issue and act on it. This is something that happened to me and it started out with the intents to see if CCP could or would right a wrong. They these guys became such easy targets. But yes I am not about 10 hours short of Amarr cruiser 3
Intent, drop the s. Tears lots of tears is where the s is appropriate. |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
239
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:40:00 -
[72] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I know it's wrong and probably a sign I need to take a break from EVE, but did this post make anyone else horny?
Admit it, it did, right?
Again, I know it's wrong, but somehow, it's so right. |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:41:00 -
[73] - Quote
Kanmar Centae wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:Kyra Quinn wrote:I've been reading this thread in amazement, partially because of the rather... hyped tone the OP is using but also because of the ignorance and lack of reading that is going on.
New characters, bought characters or any others who had to decide a short while ago to try and get the required skills for the changes can (not necessarily) be caught out by the game being offline for 1-2 days. That's quite a logical thing to happen, in this case and probably in others as well it has happened. It's not the player's fault and anyone going "you had a year" obviously didn't read the OP or thought about the situation, or is just trolling of course.
Should there be compensation because the server was offline for a day or two? Normally I'd say no but in this specific case with the whole skill changes it would be logical for CCP to do so. It's now ofcourse too late to implement it but, without raging like the OP, I would have expected CCP to understand this specific issue and act on it. This is something that happened to me and it started out with the intents to see if CCP could or would right a wrong. They these guys became such easy targets. But yes I am not about 10 hours short of Amarr cruiser 3 Intent, drop the s. Tears lots of tears is where the s is appropriate.
Only not really. With how upset everyone got over this it may have well been worth the 4 pages of rage from you guys. |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:42:00 -
[74] - Quote
Pesky LaRue wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I know it's wrong and probably a sign I need to take a break from EVE, but did this post make anyone else horny? Admit it, it did, right? Again, I know it's wrong, but somehow, it's so right. So when are you free? |

Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:42:00 -
[75] - Quote
You. I like you OP. You're so full hate and self entitlement. Do you lick windows too?
I'll leave this here as it summaries everything. Ganking miners has gone too far. Ganking is wrong, and bad. There should be a new, stronger word for Ganking like badwrong or badong. Yes, Ganking is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of Ganking, gnodab. - Said no-one, ever. |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
239
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Pesky LaRue wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I know it's wrong and probably a sign I need to take a break from EVE, but did this post make anyone else horny? Admit it, it did, right? Again, I know it's wrong, but somehow, it's so right. So when are you free? I'm pretty much ready to go |

Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
19
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 00:46:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I'm thinking it was a fail on your part for cutting it so close as it was. Whine much?
"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE |

Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
101
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:00:00 -
[78] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:****** whine etc etc
See the funny thing is, you keep saying "NO I DIDNT HAVE A YEAR TO TRAIN CAUSE I JUST BOUGHT"
But then you also say "I BOUGHT IT ONLY SO I COULD TRAIN THOSE SKILLS"
Why the **** would you buy a character where you can only barrely make it to train some skills before a crucial patch and it all depends on nothing going wrong? What if you would have had a blackout? You cant ******* be serious that you cant accept that all software EVER has flaws and can/will be exploited sometime by some idiot. ****, would you have bitchwhined to your electrician if you had been without power going "BUT ME EVE SKILLZ!!11" ?
I didnt think so!
So shut up, plan ahead, you bought a character that was only just able to train skills before the patch if nothing went wrong, something went wrong and now Im laughing at you. Carebear cakes have never been this dry and ugly before. |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
239
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:02:00 -
[79] - Quote
I'm certainly very glad I trained these skills up on all the chars that I care about training them up on way, way in advance of this expansion (I think I did it 18 months or so ago, when the change was announced).
is anyone else glad about this, just like I am?
I know I'm certainly glad about it.
I'm also strangely horny, but I still think that's the OP's OP. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:07:00 -
[80] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:And BTW, PRO TIP everybody from a noob, make sure you put a LONG skill in your queu when the patch hit so we can avoid any form of bitching about potential SP lost if it takes more than than planned to apply everything.
PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.
Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.
It affected everyone. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
|

Ayuren Aakiwa
Perkone Caldari State
79
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:08:00 -
[81] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
WAHHHHHHH. You are so ungrateful I can't stand it, any other MMO would have, maybe, just got an update as to why the server is down. You really don't appreciate anything CCP has done for all of this weekend and quite frankly you should just GTFO pew pew 24/7 |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
345
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I have a better idea for you: 1. delete your eve folder. 2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed. 3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better. 4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP. Was this an attempt to be funny? Take at least 5 to 10 minutes next time and think before you post something stupid like this. I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
Here's a post that took 5 - 10 minutes to think up.
The downtime was not CCPs fault, so any post like this comes across as whining. If you had trained all of the skills well in advance (I started a lot later than I wanted and still got them finished a week ago), then you would be whining about not being able to train something else. I had a skill come off the queue right in the middle of the downtime and lost about a day of training time. Unfortunate, but not the end of the world.
Also: Quote:We will be looking at ways to compensate players in both EVE and DUST for the outage and expect to announce what that compensation will be very soon. Your argument is invalid.
So yes, delete Eve, get your diaper changed, get mummy to kiss the boo boo and then make your way to Hello Kitty online. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec. |

Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:20:00 -
[83] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote: PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.
Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.
It affected everyone.
No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:25:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ricard Chastot wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.
Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.
It affected everyone.
No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does.
No, you don't even understand.
The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now.
4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.
Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.
This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
|

DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:29:00 -
[85] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
This |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:31:00 -
[86] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ricard Chastot wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.
Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.
It affected everyone.
No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does. No, you don't even understand. The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now. 4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end. Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training.
You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming. Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you. Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure. |

KrakizBad
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
1347
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
Don't stop believing in yourself OP, I'm sure you'll get everything you want. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

Doc Severide
State War Academy Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:36:00 -
[88] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:This is a new character I purchased
The lack of reading comprehension skill is ******* astounding. My other accounts have been done for months. This character was bought and it had enough time to get this trained. One of the reasons I bought it. But holy **** people please learn to comprehend what you read. You're missing the point. No one cares... Stop snivelling... |

Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
102
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:36:00 -
[89] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:
You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming. Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you. Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.
Pokemon Jacob Sperglord uses Whine and Tears Its ineffective!
Community veteran badposters use Get out hello kitty that way--> Its super effective! Pokemon Jacob Sperlord explodes in a massive blast of tears and emokiddyrage!
Community wins! |

Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:36:00 -
[90] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ricard Chastot wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.
Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.
It affected everyone.
No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does. No, you don't even understand. The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now. 4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end. Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.
Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.
I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.
|

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
242
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:37:00 -
[91] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you.
Actually, it's been more like:
Jacob Muvila wrote:Absolutely statement of truth, from my perspective" The Rest of the EVE Community wrote:"That's not actually an absolute statement of truth" Jacob Muvila wrote:You guys suck!
and lastly:Jacob Muvila wrote: Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.
Oh, the irony is palpable. You're the one bleating about how unfair life has been around EVE, and those making fun of you and laughing at your angst are the ones taking it too seriously?
Heh. Oh you. |

Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 01:44:00 -
[92] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.
And what's your source for this? I googled "eve online tape backup" (without quotes so just the keywords) and the only hit on google about it was your post just now (Google's gotten FAST).
EDIT: I don't mean it was literally the only hit, but it was the only hit that was on-topic. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:02:00 -
[93] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming. Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you. Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.
I'm used to it. It's like watching a prison and/or illicit drug life video here. Justification of antisocial behaviors, meanwhile so addicted to one drug they'll go into DTs if anything happens to their private stash. In WoW, it's like troll threads about justifying ninjaing, when it's mostly detested by WoW players. Anything for a rise. 
They're on the bandwagon of "YOU'RE ENTITLED CRYBABY!!!", yet as an adult (I'm nearly 50 years-old) paying for a service you do expect to get what you're paying for...in EvE it's clock time. If the clock is stopped for tape restore/backup, then compensation is in order for lost clock time. It's not 500k, but a fair average rate (e.g., +3 implants with average attributes). Lost ships/assets are the risks folks sign up to play for EvE, which is a PvP game. This has nothing to do with who did/didn't load 36 day skills last week, as no one but the instigators would know if EvE was going to be DDoS attacked, and even so, a clock stop would've affected even them.
Antics like this maybe the reason more and more MMOs are more solo friendly now, as it's showing if you let the inmates run wild, they'll also run a game into the ground (there's no reason why EvE is sitting at 500k subs, but the community itself). One look here is a reason to doubt investing time and money in this franchise maybe not wise.
I'm a multigamer so can be "free" from the antics here (and find better company to post about games with...many games, not just one), if for anything for positive mental health.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:07:00 -
[94] - Quote
Having yet to see an MMORPG that doesnt have occasional issues I made sure my last skill trained was DestroyersV. I did that so that if any problems did come up the most I would have to do is train a little bit on each races destroyer. The problem here sounds more like a case of bad planning on the players part rather than an issue CCP is responsible for. |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
242
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:10:00 -
[95] - Quote
Gargep Farrow wrote:The problem here sounds more like a case of bad planning on the players part rather than an issue CCP is responsible for. Oh man, you're SO going to get it now. |

Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
254
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:17:00 -
[96] - Quote
You can afford to plex 3 accounts? Just buy a Charecter with the BC5 skill. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:26:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ricard Chastot wrote:I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.
Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.
I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.
Well, your training time and training time on my two accounts don't jive. Evemon still hasn't updated the new training time, which says 1:08:46am on my main. In the EvE ingame queue shows 05:08 (when it showed 01:08 days ago). Plus, it's colored yellow indicating the skill was paused during the downtime (I haven't logged since loading the skill days ago to even touch them. I log in around <23hrs left to load up on the other skills, and definitely not pausing it so close to a deadline. Squeezing all the time I can in).
The queue timer is off. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
|

Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:33:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ricard Chastot wrote:I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.
Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.
I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.
Well, your training time and training time on my two accounts don't jive. Evemon still hasn't updated the new training time, which says 1:08:46am on my main. In the EvE ingame queue shows 05:08 (when it showed 01:08 days ago). Plus, it's colored yellow indicating the skill was paused during the downtime (I haven't logged since loading the skill days ago to even touch them. I log in around <23hrs left to load up on the other skills, and definitely not pausing it so close to a deadline. Squeezing all the time I can in). The queue timer is off.
It's possible that it's just you then. Anyway, I know that it's not everyone, since it didn't happen to me and I haven't seen anyone else complaining about it in the forums (and you know they would be). |

just Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:34:00 -
[99] - Quote
Strange I do not see any any character sale post for jacob . I wonder if this is a conspiracy |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 02:47:00 -
[100] - Quote
Ricard Chastot wrote: It's possible that it's just you then. Anyway, I know that it's not everyone, since it didn't happen to me and I haven't seen anyone else complaining about it in the forums (and you know they would be).
It's possible that they don't even know. The bright yellow on a skill I haven't touched since queuing it is what caught my attention (doubt everyone enables that option to show incomplete skills that was paused). Then noticed the training finish times don't match. 4hr difference is about the time for a tape backup/restore, too.
Otherwise, this issue wouldn't affect me at all since the skill was long enough to weather the downtime.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
|

Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
45
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:01:00 -
[101] - Quote
Maybe op should get a refund from the character bazaar since his newly purchased toon was so badly thought out. Transfer it to me and I will deal with the legal technicalities for you, all you need to do is send me a couple of plexes in advance to cover court costs and I will get back everything you deserve. |

Domina Negotium
Dominarum Evae
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:02:00 -
[102] - Quote
Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:Come on people, don't feed the troll. He's obviously a few fries short of a Happy Meal. DAMN, is THAT where my fries went? I demand fry compensation from OP. Gimmie fries or gimmie death!!
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Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:06:00 -
[103] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ricard Chastot wrote: It's possible that it's just you then. Anyway, I know that it's not everyone, since it didn't happen to me and I haven't seen anyone else complaining about it in the forums (and you know they would be).
It's possible that they don't even know. The bright yellow on a skill I haven't touched since queuing it is what caught my attention (doubt everyone enables that option to show incomplete skills that was paused). Then noticed the training finish times don't match. 4hr difference is about the time for a tape backup/restore, too. Otherwise, this issue wouldn't affect me at all since the skill was long enough to weather the downtime. 
Just toggled the "highlight partially trained skills" setting, as I believe this is what you're referring to, and no yellow skills. I still have Electronics Upgrades V training from before the downtime. Not yellow. I also find it extremely hard to believe that no one else would have noticed it by now if it was affecting everyone. 4 hours is a pretty large discrepancy for a game full of OCD nerds to not notice (and I count myself in that group as well).
At least, you're basically conceding that the whole tape backup thing was just speculation from you. |

Ned Gurnham
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:28:00 -
[104] - Quote
I managed to get BC5 and destroyers 5 on all my characters that need it, along with the required levels of racial frigs and cruisers. And I also managed to inject command ships on all of them before those pre-reqs are changed. However I somehow overlooked the freighter change, so now my more hauler-centric character has 2 days left to finish minmatar industrial 5... not quite enough time left before Odyssey to inject freighters... before they change it so that he will also need to train Advanced Spaceship Command to 5. So lookie there... another 20 days of training until I can get into a freighter. So I feel your pain.
I might just not bother with freighters since the Orca works for most of my needs. And being required to train a rank 5 skill to lvl 5 that just makes my freighter align a little faster... meh...
My two T3 4/10 farmers just got surprise butttsexed by CCP also so I need to give in a train HACs because of Odyssey now too I suppose. Insert "Adapt or die", HTFU, etc... |

Lsohviet
Legion of Havok Lucidus Subjugatus
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:30:00 -
[105] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A |

Ned Gurnham
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:35:00 -
[106] - Quote
Lsohviet wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
This one is rather relevant as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:51:00 -
[107] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming. Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you. Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure. I'm used to it. It's like watching a prison and/or illicit drug life video here. Justification of antisocial behaviors, meanwhile so addicted to one drug they'll go into DTs if anything happens to their private stash. In WoW, it's like troll threads about justifying ninjaing, when it's mostly detested by WoW players. Anything for a rise.  They're on the bandwagon of "YOU'RE ENTITLED CRYBABY!!!", yet as an adult (I'm nearly 50 years-old) paying for a service you do expect to get what you're paying for...in EvE it's clock time. If the clock is stopped for tape restore/backup, then compensation is in order for lost clock time. It's not 500k, but a fair average rate (e.g., +3 implants with average attributes). Lost ships/assets are the risks folks sign up to play for EvE, which is a PvP game. This has nothing to do with who did/didn't load 36 day skills last week, as no one but the instigators would know if EvE was going to be DDoS attacked, and even so, a clock stop would've affected even them. Antics like this maybe the reason more and more MMOs are more solo friendly now, as it's showing if you let the inmates run wild, they'll also run a game into the ground (there's no reason why EvE is sitting at 500k subs, but the community itself). One look here is a reason to doubt investing time and money in this franchise maybe not wise. I'm a multigamer so can be "free" from the antics here (and find better company to post about games with...many games, not just one), if for anything for positive mental health. 
Yeah I am 32 my self. The problem is the community you are 100% correct. EVE could well be over 1mil subs. It is nothing CCP did it's these players. I think the internet had given rise to a new phenomenon. Look at Samsung vs Apple , COD VS BF , Playstation vs Xbox. It is amazing the length these guys will go to defend their addiction I think EVE players are some of the worst of these kinds of people. I do not remember this much rage when I used to talk about ford vs chevy or DC vs Marvel or star trek vs star wars. But these guys are so filled with rage and anger that the moment you attack their game or what ever it is worse then religion vs atheism. SEE for me I play EVE I play everquest I play ultima online and I play WOW. I drink what ever brand of beer available. I am atheist and my good friends are christians. I own A wii playstation and xbox I have COD and BF games. I Own a samsung note 2 and ipad 4 I get to enjoy life while these people literally live for EVE. It is so ironic that they are calling me a crybaby and mad. When you can clearly see I have given up on this post and have been trolling since page 2. Yet the rage continues and these guys get so mad. I will get comped for the time I was offline CCP has said they will comp us, For anyone that does not want to be comped perhaps we can petition CCP and get your comp forwarded to me. BTW U MAD EVE COMMUNITY ? |

The Hit Man
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:54:00 -
[108] - Quote
Obviously noone here actually likes this game very much since they're to busy posting in this troll thread to actually play. |

Caldari Citizen 20120308
State War Academy Caldari State
19
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:54:00 -
[109] - Quote
Being compensated or being refunded? To me it is something that should be given back to players since we have no control of SP other than placing a skill book into queue. For this I do believe lost time or skill points should be "rightfully" given to players on paid accounts. Our skill books should be constantly training "EVEN DURING DOWN TIME."
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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:57:00 -
[110] - Quote
Not really as CCP stated they are coming up with a compensation plan for us shortly. So how is that in any way relevant at all? And what is with all the .gif and youtube postings ? Are you people that dumb you can not even compile your own rebuttal with your own words?
I guess I will try this is what it is like trying to have an argument with EVE players EVE players argument Of course the roles of the mule are the general mad population of EVE. And ffs they can not even post a link right.
At any rate to keep this relevant to the topic at hand CCP ****** up they over looked a security issue. It got compromised we pay for a service and we expect to get that service. CCP should and as far as they have said will comp us for it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14497
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 03:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
For the record, there is no skill timer that keeps running; no script that keeps +1:ing your SP GÇö there's just a skill starting and finishing time entry in the database, and if you go past the latter, your skill is doneGǪ
GǪso at most, someone has missed a skill queue switch-over. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5317
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 04:12:00 -
[112] - Quote
Your thoughts when buying a new character: "Oh wow, looks like I'm going to just be able to make it in time training for the skill changes. Better get BC 5 and Destroyers 5 first and then the frigates and cruisers."
My thoughts would have been: "Oh wow, looks like I'm going to cut it pretty close. I guess there's always the possibility of something happening and me falling short, so I guess I'd better train all the frigates and cruisers first, then BC and Destroyers 5 to make sure at least some gets transferred into all the racial skills in the event that I somehow fall short." -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

Forum Puppet
University of Caille Gallente Federation
56
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 04:19:00 -
[113] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Don;t bother. CCP will ignore all the threads and delete the posts that are not "thank you " ones. I wonder how idiots they take us for to believe that the large majority of their users are the "please dont give me SPs, "please dont compensate me", type.
Back in the 80's there were some rumours about the communists workers who were so in awe with their leadership that they were giving back the salary that they were not spending. A version of the american;s move line "please hurt me drill seargent" :)
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5318
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Posted - 2013.06.04 04:25:00 -
[114] - Quote
Given that CCP has explicitly said there will be reimbursement, I don't see what your issue is. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2686
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Posted - 2013.06.04 04:28:00 -
[115] - Quote
All of you whining in here need to stop and go play the game. Set your queues this time at least. |

Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
2
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Posted - 2013.06.04 05:17:00 -
[116] - Quote
Obunagawe wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:
You played for so damn long you could not arrange to have a skill queu of more than 24 hours to cover in case something went wrong on either your side or CCP? You sound like a noob to me.
Confirming Frigate 4's and Cruiser 3's lend themselves well to long skillqueues.
Yeah not like you need to have frig 4 done before injecting cruiser 0 or anything. Nope. You can just queue all that right up and go to bed! |

Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
222
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Posted - 2013.06.04 06:11:00 -
[117] - Quote
It would be really funny if the OP gets compensated, gets all skills he wants and then gets prodded before he remembers to update his clone and loses them all again.
Would love to see the thread he starts after that. To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |

Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.06.04 06:11:00 -
[118] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Given that CCP has explicitly said there will be reimbursement, I don't see what your issue is. Just love getting under the skin of these people at this point. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
657
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Posted - 2013.06.04 06:55:00 -
[119] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change.
CCP announced changes in November or October - so I got all skills trained in the beginning of December (started immediately). That's very far from "over a year". |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5321
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Posted - 2013.06.04 06:59:00 -
[120] - Quote
Lipbite wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change. CCP announced changes in November or October - so I got all skills trained in the beginning of December (started immediately). That's very far from "over a year". Actually no, they were announced in March of 2012. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
345
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Posted - 2013.06.04 07:14:00 -
[121] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:They're on the bandwagon of "YOU'RE ENTITLED CRYBABY!!!", yet as an adult (I'm nearly 50 years-old) paying for a service you do expect to get what you're paying for...in EvE it's clock time. If the clock is stopped for tape restore/backup, then compensation is in order for lost clock time.
CCP have already said that they are looking into ways to compensate. They are going to be doing something. It may or may not be skill points.
However the way the OP words it, it is entitlement. "I NEED 2 DAYS OF TIME ADDED TO MY SUB AND SKILL POINTS!" No you don't, but CCP may give you something. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec. |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
536
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Posted - 2013.06.04 07:38:00 -
[122] - Quote
If CCP could confirm that the OP was in fact going to miss all of the battlecruiser skills due to not finishing training cruiser 3 in time, I would wish to donate 50,000 SP from my unallocated pool to that person. From the bottom of my heart I mean this in all sincerity. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. |

Dren Visteen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:18:00 -
[123] - Quote
no offense man, but you had 6 months or so to get them. I don't really feel bad for you. |

Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
41
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:20:00 -
[124] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Tough shtaco, you should have planned ahead and not done it all at the last minute. The DDOS attack was not the fault of CCP so you need to suck it up and not be a crybaby.
Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |

Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
67
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I for one and outraged at this injustice. I fully support your crusade for reimbursement, reward, compensation and sexual satisfaction from CCP. Don't listen to the haters my friend, your cause is just!
Good luck!! https://twitter.com/SniggWaffe https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=237822 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9830
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:34:00 -
[126] - Quote
Dren Visteen wrote:no offense man, but you had 6 months or so to get them. I don't really feel bad for you.
Almost 15 months in fact.
1 Kings 12:11
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Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
53
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:38:00 -
[127] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:sad_trombone.wav
At least add a link for the lazy people! |

Melikor Tissant
Odd Fluffy Bunnies
9
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:51:00 -
[128] - Quote
I have 3 characters I trained to BC 5, destroyer 5 and frigates and cruisers to the needed or higher skills several months ago when the changes were announced.
If you waited until the last minute, you should have thought about your strategy better. |

Azeroth Uluntil
e X i l e The Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:54:00 -
[129] - Quote
lol op got owned by CCP.
This entire thread brings joy to my heart. Kinda miss forum bans though...
Ban op, gas thread?
Ps: Suck it up buttercup! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9831
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:59:00 -
[130] - Quote
Melikor Tissant wrote:I have 3 characters I trained to BC 5, destroyer 5 and frigates and cruisers to the needed or higher skills several months ago when the changes were announced.
If you waited until the last minute, you should have thought about your strategy better.
I can just about understand leaving Destroyers V until quite late, but it's not like Battlecruisers 5 was ever not the best thing to have anyway. A single ship skill that lets you fly 12 different (and mostly very good) ships is worth getting to V as early as possible on its own merits.
1 Kings 12:11
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JackknifedII
The Canaries
32
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:04:00 -
[131] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:
Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days.
This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass.
They will not know your name, they do not give a **** who you are. You all only look like a bunch of suck up fan boys who one can't stand to see a negative thing said about their game. And two think that CCP might reward you in some way for being a kiss ass. I understand that for 99% of you (this is a factual number) that "EVE IS REAL" I know this is your life blood. I know that this is your escape and a way to get back at the cruel cruel world that shuns you at every corner. A way to get back at the boss who promoted the more qualified guy. Or pay back for all the bullys who took your lunch money back in school. Revenge for the girl that turned you down and laughed at you.
But it is non of those things. It is a business. A business has one sole reason to exist that's profits. You can bet your sweet ass the moment EVE stops making profit and money it will only be a short time after that it gets shut down. You will be left with nothing all the kissing ass and brown nosing would have done nothing (just like it's doing nothing now) EVE is doing well now it isn't dying but everything does end be it 1 year or 20 years from now. And if compensation helps to keep customers money rolling in you can bet they will do it. And they are in fact coming up with compensation plans so I guess I win after all huh?
There was a small boy who played Eve, And thought CCP was out to deceive The servers went down He bitched like a clown But nothing came of it because heGÇÖs a c&%*
I almost writed a poem.
Dreams are transitory in nature, and therefore wasted on the living... Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
84
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:09:00 -
[132] - Quote
Found your anthem! |

Marzsy vox
Requiem Liberators Moral Contradiction
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:09:00 -
[133] - Quote
JackknifedII wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:
Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days.
This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass.
They will not know your name, they do not give a **** who you are. You all only look like a bunch of suck up fan boys who one can't stand to see a negative thing said about their game. And two think that CCP might reward you in some way for being a kiss ass. I understand that for 99% of you (this is a factual number) that "EVE IS REAL" I know this is your life blood. I know that this is your escape and a way to get back at the cruel cruel world that shuns you at every corner. A way to get back at the boss who promoted the more qualified guy. Or pay back for all the bullys who took your lunch money back in school. Revenge for the girl that turned you down and laughed at you.
But it is non of those things. It is a business. A business has one sole reason to exist that's profits. You can bet your sweet ass the moment EVE stops making profit and money it will only be a short time after that it gets shut down. You will be left with nothing all the kissing ass and brown nosing would have done nothing (just like it's doing nothing now) EVE is doing well now it isn't dying but everything does end be it 1 year or 20 years from now. And if compensation helps to keep customers money rolling in you can bet they will do it. And they are in fact coming up with compensation plans so I guess I win after all huh?
There was a small boy who played Eve, And thought CCP was out to deceive The servers went down He bitched like a clown But nothing came of it because heGÇÖs a c&%* I almost writed a poem.
Man I haven't laughed that hard in days. I imagined jeremy clarkson saying the last line. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
59
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:09:00 -
[134] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: This is a new character I purchased
No sympathy for this alone.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2271
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:11:00 -
[135] - Quote
So what have we learned from the OP:
1.) Don't keep putting stuff back till the last minute (CCP said they were going to change the skills MONTHS ago). 2.) Don't be a ****ing whiner on the forum 3.) Nobody cares that you made both of the above mentioned mistakes. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

lollerwaffle
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
57
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:22:00 -
[136] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: Yeah I am 32 my self and I play WOW.
GB2WOW
Jacob Muvila wrote:I drink what ever brand of beer available. I am atheist and my good friends are christians. I own A wii playstation and xbox I have COD and BF games. I Own a samsung note 2 and ipad 4 I get to enjoy life while these people literally live for EVE. It is so ironic that they are calling me a crybaby and mad. When you can clearly see I have given up on this post and have been trolling since page 2. Yet the rage continues and these guys get so mad. I will get comped for the time I was offline CCP has said they will comp us, For anyone that does not want to be comped perhaps we can petition CCP and get your comp forwarded to me. BTW U MAD EVE COMMUNITY ? LOLNOUMAD
It's ironic that you're called people mad when you're seething with rage over not having BC 5.
PROTIP: It's just a game, who cares if you have BC5 for all 4 races or not?
Calm down. Take a deep breath and go do all those things you claim to do instead.
BTW I drive a ferrari ONLY when I get sick of driving all my other super cars just because the ferrari is slowest, and 3 of my 10 supermodel girlfriends hate it. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
710
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:25:00 -
[137] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
What the... I dont even...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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lollerwaffle
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
57
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:26:00 -
[138] - Quote
J'Poll wrote:So what have we learned from the OP:
1.) Don't keep putting stuff back till the last minute (CCP said they were going to change the skills MONTHS ago). 2.) Don't be a ****ing whiner on the forum 3.) Nobody cares that you made both of the above mentioned mistakes. 4.) Damage control should be done better (see last few pages of OP's post as an example of how NOT to do it.) Fixed.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2973
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:26:00 -
[139] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:This is a new character I purchased
No purchase post in your posting history (a requirement) & this:
Quote:CURRENT CORPORATION Science and Trade Institute [STI] from 2013.04.18 07:18 to this day
Bad troll. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
107
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:26:00 -
[140] - Quote
Switched to training all the relevant skills to 5 almost immediately upon the announcement in the first half of last year. I can confirm I just "made it" with around nine months to spare on all of my characters including alts. Phew.
Also, I maintain an independent record of training queue finish times for my guys - I can confirm that not one minute of my training was lost, as I'd already injected Something V on all of my characters in anticipation of an inevitable screw up on somebody's part (mine or CCP) a few days in advance of patch day (and for post-patch day antics too).
Also again, I can confirm that I didn't lose a millisecond of PI time either as I took care of that on all relevant characters a comfortable few days before patch day.
By a remarkable twist of fate, undoubtedly nothing more that pure luck instead of actually prudent planning, this downtime only impacted my ability to log on and pew-pew-pew. Which was frustrating...but sometimes these things happen. Glad I plan ahead. Sorry, glad I'm nothing more than lucky I mean.
Hope this information helped you, OP.
Oh, and can I have your stuff? [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
60
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:29:00 -
[141] - Quote
I just realised he purchased a character without Cruiser 3+ or BC 3+.
Did he buy an industry alt who is is trying to train for combat or id he just buy the most terrible character he could find? "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Jack Paladin
Solar Storm Insidious Empire
268
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:28:00 -
[142] - Quote
This sounds like a job for the Coon and Friends!
And i am Cthulhu hurhurhur |

RatKnight1
Conquering Darkness
45
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:32:00 -
[143] - Quote
Don't feed the troll please... someone pull out a blaster and put him back under his bridge  |

My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
94
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:33:00 -
[144] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change.
This, very much this! |

Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:08:00 -
[145] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days.
This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass.
So, you are arguing that they did not take reasonable precautions, and were negligent? Given that this attack isn't an everyday occurrence for CCP, and similar attacks are successful against companies with pretty serious security, good luck with that.
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smokess
Pagan Ascension Caldari Munitions and Minerals
44
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:21:00 -
[146] - Quote
After the first page and a bit, I simply stopped reading everyone's responses and started skipping through to the OP's: comedy gold, good job. |

Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:35:00 -
[147] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote: Your thoughts when buying a new character: "Oh wow, looks like I'm going to just be able to make it in time training for the skill changes. Better get BC 5 and Destroyers 5 first and then the frigates and cruisers."
My thoughts would have been: "Oh wow, looks like I'm going to cut it pretty close. I guess there's always the possibility of something happening and me falling short, so I guess I'd better train all the frigates and cruisers first, then BC and Destroyers 5 to make sure at least some gets transferred into all the racial skills in the event that I somehow fall short."
I re-subbed in time to get all the skills with a couple of weeks to spare (so I then trained to Command Ships and injected it). This felt a little close to me, so I made sure I had all the racial frigate skills, then Destroyers IV (so that if everything went to hell at least I'd have something to show for it), then did the cruisers, then BC V, and then Destroyers V (because I care less about that than BC V). |

Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:37:00 -
[148] - Quote
Xeraphi wrote: Yeah not like you need to have frig 4 done before injecting cruiser 0 or anything. Nope. You can just queue all that right up and go to bed!
Queue up Amarr Frig IV, and Minmatar Frig IV. Inject Amarr Cruiser whilst training the Minnie levels. It's not rocket science.
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Shanoth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:38:00 -
[149] - Quote
Irs a shame I saw this post 7 page's in, and this was proly allrdy said, but....
@ the guy who made this post, welcome to eve, **** happens, grow up |

J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2276
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:39:00 -
[150] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end.
U mad bro?
Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

Daniel Whateley
28
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:41:00 -
[151] - Quote
They told us 6 months in advance, that's enough time to train all the Battlecrusiers pre-requirements to 5, three times over...
Some people just made their accounts recently though, they don't need to train the bc skills to 5 or 3 or whatever you need as the bc skills might be quicker to train afterwards aswell, it's just like they said, if you can fly it before (meaning Stats are exactly the same) you can fly it after, it's just if you have BC 5 and don't train the prereq's for the other races you're denied level 5 BC for the other races. |

J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2276
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:41:00 -
[152] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:This is a new character I purchased
The lack of reading comprehension skill is ******* astounding. My other accounts have been done for months. This character was bought and it had enough time to get this trained. One of the reasons I bought it. But holy **** people please learn to comprehend what you read.
A.) No sale post in the character bazaar...which is mandatory.
B.) Will just leave this here
Even CCP agrees. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

Tiven loves Tansien
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
826
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:41:00 -
[153] - Quote
While i disagree with everything Malcanis said since he was elected CSM  please try to deal with it.
I mean, it's not a big deal right? It's something like 200k SP.. what's that for kids nowadays, 4-5 days? Shooooooooooot................ |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
129
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:48:00 -
[154] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: Yeah I am 32 my self. The problem is the community you are 100% correct. EVE could well be over 1mil subs. It is nothing CCP did it's these players. I think the internet had given rise to a new phenomenon. Look at Samsung vs Apple , COD VS BF , Playstation vs Xbox. It is amazing the length these guys will go to defend their addiction I think EVE players are some of the worst of these kinds of people. I do not remember this much rage when I used to talk about ford vs chevy or DC vs Marvel or star trek vs star wars. But these guys are so filled with rage and anger that the moment you attack their game or what ever it is worse then religion vs atheism. SEE for me I play EVE I play everquest I play ultima online and I play WOW. I drink what ever brand of beer available. I am atheist and my good friends are christians. I own A wii playstation and xbox I have COD and BF games. I Own a samsung note 2 and ipad 4 I get to enjoy life while these people literally live for EVE. It is so ironic that they are calling me a crybaby and mad. When you can clearly see I have given up on this post and have been trolling since page 2. Yet the rage continues and these guys get so mad. I will get comped for the time I was offline CCP has said they will comp us, For anyone that does not want to be comped perhaps we can petition CCP and get your comp forwarded to me. BTW U MAD EVE COMMUNITY ?
Well mr compulsive consumer, heres the deal:
We're not the ones pissing ourselves in rage over 17 days of skilltraining time when you could have been more careful and bought a character with all the presets done. Especially when it's so close to the patch days.
Now stop posting like you're still on ******* reddit. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:53:00 -
[155] - Quote
My personal fleet consists of caldari battle cruisers and destroyers and gallente and minmatar destroyers.... pretty sure ill be putting my sp into caldari primarily...
my issue is this i can't find any info on racial changes anywhere in the odyssey info... does anyone know what rank dessys and bc's will be? how much will the books cost and how can ccp justify adding about 7-8 weeks of skilling to my schedule just so i can fly ships i have been flying for the last 6 months?
Any links giving real info would have been better than rumours and then finding nearly 2 mill sp and 2 lvl 5 skills have been removed from evemon with no idea how that is going to be addressed..
I can however find info on navy ship rebalancing and the addition of racial navy BC's BUT no navy dessies???? so i guess it was only a partial rebalance after all. |

Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:05:00 -
[156] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Melikor Tissant wrote:I have 3 characters I trained to BC 5, destroyer 5 and frigates and cruisers to the needed or higher skills several months ago when the changes were announced.
If you waited until the last minute, you should have thought about your strategy better. I can just about understand leaving Destroyers V until quite late, but it's not like Battlecruisers 5 was ever not the best thing to have anyway. A single ship skill that lets you fly 12 different (and mostly very good) ships is worth getting to V as early as possible on its own merits.
So... ARE you saying that bc 5 was worth it because it serviced soooo many ships and now that they have changed to racial the value of a bc lvl 5 is worth less, cost more in books and quadruples the training times for bc's???? should we see this then as a bad thing???
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9850
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:19:00 -
[157] - Quote
I'm saying that there was no good reason not to train battlecruiser 5 up as early as possible anyway, and once it became known that you'd need 4x as many skillpoints to get the same effect some time in the future, it became a no-brainer.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9850
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:20:00 -
[158] - Quote
Necroromantic wrote:My personal fleet consists of caldari battle cruisers and destroyers and gallente and minmatar destroyers.... pretty sure ill be putting my sp into caldari primarily...
my issue is this i can't find any info on racial changes anywhere in the odyssey info... does anyone know what rank dessys and bc's will be? how much will the books cost and how can ccp justify adding about 7-8 weeks of skilling to my schedule just so i can fly ships i have been flying for the last 6 months?
Any links giving real info would have been better than rumours and then finding nearly 2 mill sp and 2 lvl 5 skills have been removed from evemon with no idea how that is going to be addressed..
I can however find info on navy ship rebalancing and the addition of racial navy BC's BUT no navy dessies???? so i guess it was only a partial rebalance after all.
What do you understand by the words "If you could fly it before, you'll be able to fly it after the change"?
1 Kings 12:11
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OFunk Taggart
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:31:00 -
[159] - Quote
crappy, I only had them at 3, and 1 each
8 free skills though |

OFunk Taggart
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:32:00 -
[160] - Quote
quit your 8itchin and start your twitchin, servers are back up |

Kyra Quinn
We Are Really Scary
44
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:44:00 -
[161] - Quote
They added 50k free skillpoints. But AFTER the changes, oh well. The adventures of a newbie: http://kyraquinn.wordpress.com/ |

Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
411
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:49:00 -
[162] - Quote
Mhmm.. I want to sample OP's tears. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:19:00 -
[163] - Quote
I have been AWOL for over a year. What is the current issue with BC skills? |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1340
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:22:00 -
[164] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
Huh... my training queues didn't STOP RUNNING during the downtime... maybe your Eve is too broken to use. I suggest you biomass every toon, cancel your account(s), and go back to WoW. Quickly. Don't wait. Just do it. Go. Now. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Camper101
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
490
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:28:00 -
[165] - Quote
Yeah, you had 3 months to get those skills settled, biomass yourself if you are really the only moron in game that managed to wait till the last day with skilling that crap. 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
My name is Hans. The "L" stands for danger. |

Carthas Onasi
The Scope Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:56:00 -
[166] - Quote
@ OP -
You are a fool.
Your blatant moronic whining is ridiculous and it was bound to ruffle some feathers; then when it does you decide to cry even more...
I dont care how old you are, I dont care how long you have played EVE for, I dont care if CPP is even remotely at fault for your loss, And i certainly dont care about your opinions on ANYTHING.
You do not deserve compensation
P.S. feel free to correct my grammar.. i deliberately didnt spell check this so that you would have something meaningful to do with your time after reading it.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
523
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:58:00 -
[167] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:You waited to the last minute?
FFS I've had BC V for over a year now. I trained it the first time they announced the change.
This. And also destroyers and etc. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Anne Dieu-le-veut
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:02:00 -
[168] - Quote
This character is less than 3 months old, and I finished all the prereqs over two weeks ago. Maybe you should have bought a better character, or bought it sooner.
Onyx Nyx wrote:Mhmm.. I want to sample OP's tears.
They probably taste like fail. |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1501
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:08:00 -
[169] - Quote
Domanique Altares wrote:ITT: OP makes a poor purchasing decision with regards to his character; blames CCP for his lack of forethought.
This is pretty much what I was thinking, actually. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Amber Kurvora
Turalyon Plus
10
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:16:00 -
[170] - Quote
Should have done the sensible thing and trained it all to the required levels ahead of time, like a smart person. I trained all the relevant skills back in Feb/March specifically so I could fly all the racial BCs and destroyers at V. It was just common sense at the end of the day to put the time in then and get it paid back four fold when Odyssey launched. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9857
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:27:00 -
[171] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:This is a new character I purchased
No purchase post in your posting history (a requirement) & this: Quote:CURRENT CORPORATION Science and Trade Institute [STI] from 2013.04.18 07:18 to this day Bad troll.
Alternatively, it raises the question of who he bought it from and how.
1 Kings 12:11
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Vawd
Tax Evasion Ltd
7
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:43:00 -
[172] - Quote
So let me get this straight...
Op is calling everyone out as people with no life, and this game is everything to them, and in the same breath, crying about how he missed a few hours of training?
I would give the op 0/10 for the troll, but he got a lot of people to post, including me so heres a 1/10. |

Alexila Quant
Strategic Acquisitions Group Tactical Research Lab
72
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:46:00 -
[173] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
I have a better idea for you: 1. delete your eve folder. 2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed. 3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better. 4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP. Was this an attempt to be funny? Take at least 5 to 10 minutes next time and think before you post something stupid like this. I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you. You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.
WE"VE GOT A MAD ONE FOLKS |

Ultim8Evil
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
56
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:52:00 -
[174] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:sad_trombone.wav
Chuckled at this for a good 2 minutes  |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
384
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:58:00 -
[175] - Quote
Obunagawe wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:
You played for so damn long you could not arrange to have a skill queu of more than 24 hours to cover in case something went wrong on either your side or CCP? You sound like a noob to me.
Confirming Frigate 4's and Cruiser 3's lend themselves well to long skillqueues.
Last night I added my AHAC skills just for this reason! (Actually was adv weapon upgrades I think). "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
384
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:01:00 -
[176] - Quote
Victoria Sin wrote:ColdCutz wrote:Cat Casidy wrote:you're dumb +1 for the correct spelling of you're +1 for recognising the correct grammar of "you're".
Sad sad day when you need to give accolades for recognizing something that should be standard =( "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
384
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:05:00 -
[177] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jacob Muvila wrote:So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp? This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.
I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training. So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.
You shouldn't have left it so late. Great CSM work here bud. Why don't you get off CCP's jock strap and do your ******* job. Petition has been sent before the post was even in. TO those saying it is not CCPs fault they admitted the attack was due to a vulnerability on their end. You had a year. So yeah I guess this is totally my fault or something. Wow you're ignorant as everyone here and twice as stupid. If you would read what was written in the post you would see that I stated not once but twice (this is why your twice as dumb it's been said twice) That this was a newly purchased character. So no I did not have a year to train this. I had enough time to train it providing CCP does what we as paying customers pay for them to do, And that it provide a service. We pay for service we were denied said service for two days. This was also due to a lack of security on their part. They have already stated that there was a weakness that someone exploited. This was well within their control, and they failed to secure their servers properly. All this ass kissing that is being done here it pointless. CCP will not see that you are on their side. They will not see that you are not asking to be comped and reward you for being a kiss ass. They will not know your name, they do not give a **** who you are. You all only look like a bunch of suck up fan boys who one can't stand to see a negative thing said about their game. And two think that CCP might reward you in some way for being a kiss ass. I understand that for 99% of you (this is a factual number) that "EVE IS REAL" I know this is your life blood. I know that this is your escape and a way to get back at the cruel cruel world that shuns you at every corner. A way to get back at the boss who promoted the more qualified guy. Or pay back for all the bullys who took your lunch money back in school. Revenge for the girl that turned you down and laughed at you. But it is non of those things. It is a business. A business has one sole reason to exist that's profits. You can bet your sweet ass the moment EVE stops making profit and money it will only be a short time after that it gets shut down. You will be left with nothing all the kissing ass and brown nosing would have done nothing (just like it's doing nothing now) EVE is doing well now it isn't dying but everything does end be it 1 year or 20 years from now. And if compensation helps to keep customers money rolling in you can bet they will do it. And they are in fact coming up with compensation plans so I guess I win after all huh?
That's a lot of effort for not being able to take advantage of a ccp official change to the game.
Yo dawg, I heard you like skillpoints, so here's some skillpoints to skill up while you skill up.
"I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
384
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:09:00 -
[178] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote:Pepper Solette wrote:Contrary to popular belief......... your name is NOT Mr Epeen.
And it is not all about you.
Personally i hope CCP gives us nothing, just so i can harvest more of your delicious tears.
You are nothing more than a whiny little ****wit and people like you need a good slap to the head. Next thing you know we'll read about you whining how hail damaged your car, therefore the government of the country you live in (according to your logic) is legally bound to give you a new car.
You strike me as the kinda guy that will make mistakes due to your own incompetence but look for any possible way to blame somebody else. The funny thing is never in a million years would your squirrelly ass ever raise a hand to anyone. That's why people like you play EVE. EVE is your way to get that head slap in that you so wish you could do to someone in real life, but are to much of a chicken **** to ever act on anything. That is one of the biggest problems with EVE if people like you. Ones who do not have the balls to stand up for your self in a real life confrontation, so you take to EVE and let out all that rage. Most of you would probably be serial killers if you had any balls. I take this from a reply about the DDOS attack. By KhanneaSuntzu. Hit the nail right on the head with this statement too. "Eve Online is an amazingly well balanced and well designed game. Sadly it also brings out the lowest of the lowest in humans and human psychology. The game is inundated with people who swelter in psychopathic and anti-social behavior. This will increasingly cause "blowback" - people completely taken apart inside the game will seek recourse to attacking the venue from the outside." http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/02/eve-online-dust-514-servers/But if you think you are ever up to the task let me know fatty.
Confirming wanting to beat the crap out of someone through a monitor is not sane. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
384
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:16:00 -
[179] - Quote
Kyra Quinn wrote:I've been reading this thread in amazement, partially because of the rather... hyped tone the OP is using but also because of the ignorance and lack of reading that is going on.
New characters, bought characters or any others who had to decide a short while ago to try and get the required skills for the changes can (not necessarily) be caught out by the game being offline for 1-2 days. That's quite a logical thing to happen, in this case and probably in others as well it has happened. It's not the player's fault and anyone going "you had a year" obviously didn't read the OP or thought about the situation, or is just trolling of course.
Should there be compensation because the server was offline for a day or two? Normally I'd say no but in this specific case with the whole skill changes it would be logical for CCP to do so. It's now ofcourse too late to implement it but, without raging like the OP, I would have expected CCP to understand this specific issue and act on it.
If battlecruisers V did not take 20+ days I'd almost agree with you. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
72
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:21:00 -
[180] - Quote
Jacob Muvila wrote: Most of you would probably be serial killers if you had any balls.
I dont have any balls
But then again, they aren't the requirement that you think they are "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
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