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baltec1
Bat Country
6839
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:29:00 -
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Dullmeyr Prodomo wrote:baltec1 wrote:We have some spare content sitting in our hangar, what would you like and Ill see if we have it. Fixed it for you. Else, not sure if just plain stupid. (you)
Well, what do you want? |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
260
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:30:00 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Your name is appropriate.
9/10
Hey! I like that! +1 to you for your comment.
Brek Blood wrote:Guttripper wrote:While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.
Just a head's up. If you have epilepsy, you've already been tested for photo-sensitivity. If you are prone to having photo-sensitive seizures, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place. Seizures are not triggered by motion sickness you twit. This has nothing to do with Epilepsy and the warp gate effect. Man up ffs.
Alright, Doctor Hardcore Dumbass chiming in here. Now did I say I suffer from epilepsy in my post? Apparently the others that have posted their experiences here must be all whacked in the head because no, not one person got sick watching the new warp tunnel effect. And no, there are not other threads asking for any change to the animation. I guess I just wanted to boost my "likes received" and created this bogus thread.
Perhaps CCP will create a patch that with each exploded space ship, graphical images of burn, war, and other catastrophes' victims will be displayed on the screen with a small note stating, "Your handy work." I know I can look at that stuff without gaining a queasy stomach. I'll just have to be hard core like you and tell others to "Man up ffs."
Ranger - come on man... do you ever see anything ~negative~ from CCP? Nearly every reply from you is borderline "CCP can do no wrong!"
You trying to get a job there or something? |
Dullmeyr Prodomo
8
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Well, what do you want? Well, i have to apologize obviously.
Faction Point would do it.
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Maxxis Viper
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:36:00 -
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Sometimes i do feel queezy but that is because im drunk |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:39:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Your name is appropriate.
9/10 Hey! I like that! +1 to you for your comment. Brek Blood wrote:Guttripper wrote:While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.
Just a head's up. If you have epilepsy, you've already been tested for photo-sensitivity. If you are prone to having photo-sensitive seizures, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place. Seizures are not triggered by motion sickness you twit. This has nothing to do with Epilepsy and the warp gate effect. Man up ffs. Alright, Doctor Hardcore Dumbass chiming in here. Now did I say I suffer from epilepsy in my post? Apparently the others that have posted their experiences here must be all whacked in the head because no, not one person got sick watching the new warp tunnel effect. And no, there are not other threads asking for any change to the animation. I guess I just wanted to boost my "likes received" and created this bogus thread. Perhaps CCP will create a patch that with each exploded space ship, graphical images of burn, war, and other catastrophes' victims will be displayed on the screen with a small note stating, "Your handy work." I know I can look at that stuff without gaining a queasy stomach. I'll just have to be hard core like you and tell others to "Man up ffs." Ranger - come on man... do you ever see anything ~negative~ from CCP? Nearly every reply from you is borderline "CCP can do no wrong!" You trying to get a job there or something? When I see something wrong, or that needs improvement, I say so.
When I see people over reacting to minor changes, I say so.
I prefer not to jump on the outrage bandwagon without good reason, even if that isn't the "popular" stance. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ben Vereton
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:39:00 -
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Personally I love the new jump animation and like the camera tracking thing, but then again I am very lucky to not suffer from motion sickness, like, ever, so I definitely want them to stay. That said, most of the people who oppose it are respectful and simply want an option to turn it off, instead of demanding its removal completely, so I support them. More options to please both "sides" is usually a good thing. |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
875
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:41:00 -
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Actually serious reply follows:
OP, please visit http://www.videogameseizures.org/ - might apply to you more than you want to acknowledge here.
Game is fine, you however might need to take measures if you really do feel sick and aren't just being a "It's new, I HATE IT" dingleberry.
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:41:00 -
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Dullmeyr Prodomo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Well, what do you want? Well, i have to apologize obviously. Faction Point would do it. Baltec, yes, please help the man out on this.
Lord knows he desperately needs a point of some sort, faction or otherwise. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1460
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:46:00 -
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Motion sickness is caused when your inner ear is saying one thing and your eyes are saying another. If your ears detect motion but you're focusing on something static and unmoving (which is why people get sick reading in the car), or vice versa - eyes say everything's moving, ears are like "lol no", which is what causes motion sickness when playing games.
There are a few ways to deal with this. Problem one is that you're probably keeping your face too close to your monitor. If your TV or monitor fill your peripheral vision then that's a problem. You want your peripheral vision to not be detecting motion, ideally. sit back a bit. If you find this makes it difficult to see the screen, schedule an appointment with your optician.
Another way around the sickness is to stimulate your inner ear with motion by moving your head. It doesn't actually need to match the motion on screen, so long as your head is moving. Look around you, maybe put a sports channel on TV and check the score occasionally, or keep a book nearby and read a sentence or two during warp. Look out the window, check out stuff on your second monitor, nod your head to your music. It doesn't matter what you do so long as you stimulate the inner ear with motion. If you have to, dock up and go get a glass of water or a cup of tea or something.
The reason you're getting sick is not because of the animation, it's because you're sitting unnaturally still. It's on you to resolve that, not on CCP. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
16
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:47:00 -
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I left EVE about a year ago after all the fuss about CQ and hoped, when I came back, that things would have settled down a bit.
Sadly it's not proved to be that way.
I get a whiff of CQ about this latest "feature". It's causing some people a lot of grief, me included, and so far most comments about the transition business seems to be pretty negative. What do we hear? "Get used to it." "You are whining about nothing." etc etc. Silence so far from CCP, though it IS early days yet so we'll see. But in the end I reckon CCP will have to save face, grudgingly admit that maybe it wasn't as optimum as they had hoped and row back a little just as they did with the CQ versus Hangar business.
Let's hope that they move a bit quicker this time as I can foresee a LOT of very annoyed customers actually saying that EVE makes them sick!
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Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
225
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:20:00 -
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The new stargate transition animation is absolutely beautiful. I really do love it.
However, after a number of jumps, I do start to feel queasy. I don't have a bad case of motion sickness -- it is fairly mild -- but the camera movement of the new animation triggers it.
Please provide an option for us to have some other sort of (static?) transition between jumps. Like I said, it's not bad for me, and most likely I will be able to adjust to it over time. However I know others could be close to vomiting after the first transition.
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Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:23:00 -
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Meytal wrote:The new stargate transition animation is absolutely beautiful. I really do love it.
However, after a number of jumps, I do start to feel queasy. I don't have a bad case of motion sickness -- it is fairly mild -- but the camera movement of the new animation triggers it.
Please provide an option for us to have some other sort of (static?) transition between jumps. Like I said, it's not bad for me, and most likely I will be able to adjust to it over time. However I know others could be close to vomiting after the first transition.
My sentiments exactly.
+1 |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
390
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:37:00 -
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Even withotu the issue of motion sickness this jump thing is a HORRIBLE design by anyoen that understands on human iteraction with computers. Anythign that is repeatedly performed must have MINOR and subtle feedback on the screen otherwise it gets tiresome and will eventually start to give headache to a LOT of peopel that now are not still suffering from the sickness.
This is AGAIN another change clearly pushed by someone that does not play much eve at all. I really doubt 1 in 3 people will not get fedup with this when day after day they perform 70 jumps per hour during 4 hours of a day. |
Donedy
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
170
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:51:00 -
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KInda agree with that. And i hope people saying "press F10" at each jump are trolling/kidding. Sometimes people doesnt complain just to complain. |
Crexa
Ion Industrials
81
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.
I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.
Your arrogance is astounding. Some people do truly have issues and you blow it off as a "seen it before post". "F=ma, so obviously they're putting mouths against arses to produce a force." "...its breakfast time and i am very hungry. may i have some of your paint chips?" |
Litharan Schrell
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:12:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Even withotu the issue of motion sickness this jump thing is a HORRIBLE design by anyoen that understands on human iteraction with computers. Anythign that is repeatedly performed must have MINOR and subtle feedback on the screen otherwise it gets tiresome and will eventually start to give headache to a LOT of peopel that now are not still suffering from the sickness.
This is AGAIN another change clearly pushed by someone that does not play much eve at all. I really doubt 1 in 3 people will not get fedup with this when day after day they perform 70 jumps per hour during 4 hours of a day.
Now this guy, this guy knows it.
+1 |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:15:00 -
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Re: Stitcher...
Watching the animation, I think _my_ problem might be it is not very fluid like the warp drive animation. Perhaps my computer or CCP needs to work a bit more on the system change, but how I see the effect:
Fire down the gate into the vortex. Slight pause (system change). Continue the vortex. Pause. Lightning flash. Stuttering vortex. Vortex vanishes and new systems' items are a distance. Abruptly stop and in gate cloak mode.
If my mind was not attempting to fill in the missing blanks, then I might not get the occasional headache. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1462
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:17:00 -
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I can see how that would suck, yeah. I'm running on a pretty good machine and if anything the jump effect is one of the smoother things I see. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4230
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Posted - 2013.06.05 20:42:00 -
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Crexa wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.
I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games. Your arrogance is astounding. Some people do truly have issues and you blow it off as a "seen it before post". That would be because I have... many, many times. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Brek Blood
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:16:00 -
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The QQ'rs
If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle? |
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Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:52:00 -
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Brek Blood wrote:If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle?
Nope. It's simpler than that. I stop buying tickets. Seems like the common sense approach. |
Robert Saint
Playright
52
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:11:00 -
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I suppose we all have to throw our opinions in the mix or CCP won't know what it's client base is feeling, or not feeling.
I have to + 1
the option for turning off or making a motion that is so repetitive a static image.... it's like watching "Back to the future" over and over again..... it's not the jumps so much as the "Matrix Spin" when you click an object in space........ dizzy!! |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
229
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:08:00 -
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Brek Blood wrote:The QQ'rs
If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle? You analogy would be appropriate if, instead of being optional, you had to take a roller coaster ride to each place in the amusement park. I live and primarily move about in W-space, so my interaction with Hisec is minimal, but I do still have trade and industry characters that need to navigate through empire.
Guess what? For better or worse, we're all different. Those of you who have absolutely no problems with motion sickness, I envy you. But some of us do have problems with it. I'm not colorblind and neither are most people, but I think CCP should make accommodations for those who are. This is a similar situation, except people will soon associate the game with nausea and vomiting ... not a good impression to leave with customers, or friends of potential customers.
"Hey Bob, how was that new scifi game you tried... EVE, was it?" "Yeah, every time I played it, I felt sick to my stomach and even threw up a couple times. I had to stop playing it." "Oh wow, guess I'd better stay away from it." |
Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:17:00 -
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I'm not sick with motion but with colors : there are too many different shades of colors on my screen.
16 colors are enough, 16Mil makes me sick
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á BUT NOT ATM :)-á-á-á --- |
Heimdallofasgard
Apex Overplayed Coalition Nulli Legio
477
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:31:00 -
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Heh, The only time I've ever had motion sickness from a computer game was minecraft for some obscure reason, something to do with the camera bobbing about when moving combined with strafing and looking around whilst moving.
Basically it's your brain recieving conflicting information between what your eyes are telling your brain about your movement in space, and what your ear is telling your brain your body is experiencing in terms of balance.
Closing your eyes or moving further away from your screen will help stop this as a quick workaround.
But yeah, CCP should definitely tweak the jump animations, make the camera transitions a little less harsh etc...
Another option would be to leave the animation on by default but add another optional jump sequence which fades to black on clicking jump... briefly fades in the target system name and region, then fade back in once the jump is completed, this would help keep the cinematic feel of travelling through space, without annoying people or causing nausea for those susceptable to motion sickness... or those players who've had a little too much to drink :) |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
61
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:40:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard wrote:Heh, The only time I've ever had motion sickness from a computer game was minecraft for some obscure reason, something to do with the camera bobbing about when moving combined with strafing and looking around whilst moving.
Basically it's your brain recieving conflicting information between what your eyes are telling your brain about your movement in space, and what your ear is telling your brain your body is experiencing in terms of balance.
Closing your eyes or moving further away from your screen will help stop this as a quick workaround.
But yeah, CCP should definitely tweak the jump animations, make the camera transitions a little less harsh etc...
Another option would be to leave the animation on by default but add another optional jump sequence which fades to black on clicking jump... briefly fades in the target system name and region, then fade back in once the jump is completed, this would help keep the cinematic feel of travelling through space, without annoying people or causing nausea for those susceptable to motion sickness... or those players who've had a little too much to drink :) That last part makes me wonder how many slosh-ops will now end with a bit of slosh on the keyboard. FC: "jump jump ju...oh fu...hold your cloBLAAAAARGGHH!" |
Lasernuts
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:49:00 -
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All of these idea's are great. I personally like the jump animation tho it needs to be like a true worm-holey feel instead of a static image feel.
Maybe have some degree of colors depending on the gates and location jumping to. And have more of a curve in the animation instead of being straight it kinda has a curvey feel to it. And doesnt mean have camera move around but the actual portal moves around.
Maybe have Capital jumpdrive jumps different from jumpbridge jumps, and gate jumps could reflect the gate ambient color in the portal. Cov-ops jumps could be like a iridescent blue type.
But yall(CCP) should always include an option to disable something.
Also why does my ship auto-target one target back when its set to AutoTarget Back : 0 Targets |
LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
72
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:25:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard wrote:Heh, The only time I've ever had motion sickness from a computer game was minecraft for some obscure reason, something to do with the camera bobbing about when moving combined with strafing and looking around whilst moving.
Basically it's your brain recieving conflicting information between what your eyes are telling your brain about your movement in space, and what your ear is telling your brain your body is experiencing in terms of balance.
Closing your eyes or moving further away from your screen will help stop this as a quick workaround.
But yeah, CCP should definitely tweak the jump animations, make the camera transitions a little less harsh etc...
Another option would be to leave the animation on by default but add another optional jump sequence which fades to black on clicking jump... briefly fades in the target system name and region, then fade back in once the jump is completed, this would help keep the cinematic feel of travelling through space, without annoying people or causing nausea for those susceptable to motion sickness... or those players who've had a little too much to drink :)
Exactly, which is why some people have been asking/begging for them to allow us to turn off that stupid bobbing motion when your sat stationary in space for years... |
Goran Konjich
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
61
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Posted - 2013.06.15 09:01:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:BLUUEEERRRRRRGGGHHHHH !!!
OK, i stopped jumping.
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Mildew Wolf
82
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Posted - 2013.06.15 11:45:00 -
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ive had a similar experience. the stargate animation looks fine to me but after 5-10 jumps ive noticed myself feeling increasingly nauseous. logging off or staying in one system for a while clears it up but if i continue to roam i feel worse and worse until i eventually just quit. ive played eve for over 5 years and never had a problem like this before. i dont like to complain about game changes etc but i wont be able to continue playing if these problems persist |
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