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Med Cectpa
Xenobytes Stain Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:24:00 -
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m3talc0re X wrote:I think he makes us wait like this just to make our addictions burn and make sure we appreciate his efforts... This is my theory -_-
You think that he is attention wh**e? I don't think so |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:56:00 -
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Seeing some inconsistency with EHP numbers. The way I was told it eve goes with the worst case scenario when calculating EHP and calculates for the lowest resist you have. Is this right? If it is then there's a good little bit of difference on my proteus fit. In game I'm showing 113,775 EHP with EM being my lowest resist. In EFT with my skills imported and even with "All lvl 5" using a 100% EM damage profile I only see 107,467 EHP.
Resists in game show 73 , 82 , 91 ,74 while in EFT they read as 72.8 , 81.8 , 90.9 , 73.8
Here's the fit:
[Proteus, Covert] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
True Sansha Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 10MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Not sure what the problem is but there is one and it may just be me not understanding how these things are calculated. |
Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:40:00 -
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EVE calculates your shield's EHP based on 100% damage to its lowest resist. Then it does the same for armour vs the armour's lowest resist, even when that's different from the shield's. Then it works out the hull's. Finally it adds all these together. Thus it gives the worst case, where someone blows through your shield with one kind of damage, then swaps and eats away your armour with a second type, both being the perfect choice.
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bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:11:00 -
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Even so my lowest resist on both shield and armor in this proteus is EM. So I figured a 100% EM damage profile should do the job in making EFT calculate like eve does. Maybe gripen should add an option to calculate EHP the same way as EVE does? Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well. |
Shade Millith
Bite Me inc Bitten.
78
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:13:00 -
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bongpacks wrote:Even so my lowest resist on both shield and armor in this proteus is EM. So I figured a 100% EM damage profile should do the job in making EFT calculate like eve does. Maybe gripen should add an option to calculate EHP the same way as EVE? Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well.
There already is a way. You can manually create damage profiles.
Right click on the Defence area of the stats, and select Edit Custom Profiles. In terms of EM, you'd make a new profile called 'EM', and just put the number 1 for EM, and leave the others at zero.
As another hint, you can right click on the ships Scan Resolution, and find the time it takes the ship to lock various things.
Quote:Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well.
Because EFT came first? EFT is years older than the ingame one. |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:56:00 -
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lol I already said I was using a 100% EM damage profile |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:09:00 -
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Give it some time. The people who develop utilities like this give freely of their time and effort to help other players and others want to complain that they're not doing it fast enough? Really? Give the guy a break ffs, if he never updates it he's already done far more for Eve players than 99% of the rest of us will ever do (myself included). |
michael chasseur
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.08 16:16:00 -
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people who complain about waiting for something free are the scum of the earth |
Gripen
1521
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:00:00 -
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Odyssey version available. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
473
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:03:00 -
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Gripen wrote:Odyssey version available. Yay! Trying it out now! Thank you! :) |
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m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
134
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:12:00 -
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We all love you Gripen :P |
Caltharian
0beron Construct AL3XAND3R.
10
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:21:00 -
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First of thanks for the update we all love EFT
came across a minor bug with regards to the analyzers when fitted to a cov ops frig, virus strength is getting +10 per level rather than the flat +10 you get in game, however i put that down to how bonuses are in ship description rather than an error on your part |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
984
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:47:00 -
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Thanks. Oh god. |
Balthazod Duncan
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.08 19:50:00 -
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Awesome thanx very much |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
5192
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Posted - 2013.06.08 19:57:00 -
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Gnosis is still with 1380 MW for PG! fix please.
Otherwise awesomesauce. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1270
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:36:00 -
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Quick reminder to everyone before it comes up (though it likely will anyhow): update your characters before you say you're showing that you can't fly a given BC/dessie.
And thanks to Gripen for the quick turnaround on this one. |
Thedaius
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:53:00 -
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Frist just wanted to say thanks for the update!
Second the Augoror Navy issue currently has 10% energy turret capacitor reduction and 10% armor HP bonus; however the actual bonuses are 25% medium energy turret damage + 10% armor HP bonus... |
Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures Rim Worlds Protectorate
4
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:54:00 -
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Since I can't log in for the next few days, this is all the internet spaceships I can play. thank you for the quick update
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1034
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Posted - 2013.06.08 23:25:00 -
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Gripen is a god among men.
Thank you for the most useful tool in Eve. |
SonicDust187
Obstergo Polarized.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:15:00 -
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The probe sensor strength is too high in EFT compared to the game. |
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Incursion Guru
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:53:00 -
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If I was to copy my old ship fittings/characters from a previous version of EFT, would it mess up any of the configurations in the new up to date EFT ? And would the new balances be implemented on the old fits ? http://incursionguru.yolasite.com/ |
BATTM
PERKONES
1
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:13:00 -
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Analyzing modules virus strength is wrong ,shows 80 while its max for any player 40.No access difficulty data in analyzer modules. |
Luminocity
The Dark Revenants PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:03:00 -
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Gripen wrote:Odyssey version available. Thank you sir!
Incursion Guru wrote:If I was to copy my old ship fittings/characters from a previous version of EFT, would it mess up any of the configurations in the new up to date EFT ? And would the new balances be implemented on the old fits ? I've never had any problems with copying the ./characters/ and ./setups/ folders from previous EFT versions. Been doing it for years and it seemed to work fine for the Odyssey version as well. In fact I've also been copying over the config.ini.
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Colt Blackhawk
The Amarrian Expendables
159
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Posted - 2013.06.09 08:52:00 -
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Aug Navy data in eft is wrong ;) |
galathil eru
Sinister League of Ball Shavers
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:25:00 -
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Anyone else getting API authentication problems? or found a way to to get your API into the new version, dont really like using all level V Edit: i tryed first with my pre-existing API that worked great on 2.18, that wouldt work so i created a new one, that wouldnt work, so i have now deleted all previous API keys (with the exception of the old legacy ones) and created a new one, still no luck :(
also thanks Gripen o7 |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1366
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:57:00 -
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galathil eru wrote:Anyone else getting API authentication problems? or found a way to to get your API into the new version, dont really like using all level V Edit: i tryed first with my pre-existing API that worked great on 2.18, that wouldt work so i created a new one, that wouldnt work, so i have now deleted all previous API keys (with the exception of the old legacy ones) and created a new one, still no luck :(
also thanks Gripen o7
Same here, trouble with getting API keys to work. Might not be a problem with EFT, the API page itself has been sketchy for me, 90% of the time it reports and error |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
186
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:32:00 -
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Very very nice. Now I can scratch my OCD itch by figuring out which ship setups can be adapted and which need to be completely thrown out (goodbye old Armageddon fits).
And now I can truly see the horror that was the across-the-board resistance nerf.
Thanks, Gripen! "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
6
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:42:00 -
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Thanks for the update Gripen, much appreciated. |
Count Chamberlain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:44:00 -
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as usual good work, thankyou |
Yagumo Sagara
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:50:00 -
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Thank you for EFT and keeping it updated!
I have recently returned to EVE and while searching for CNR L4 setups, I've found an old one, so I went and got new version of EFT to compare the changes to CNR and cruise missiles. What I found was very confusing, is there a problem with how EFT calculates stats or did CCP nerf CNR between EFT versions?
Here's with EFT 2.19. Note defense and firepower.
Here's an exactly same setup but with a slightly older EFT 2.17.
Note that firepower DPS went down instead of going up by 30%. Is it a calculation bug or I misunderstood what CCP said in their post? Also note that sustained defense went up because of increased cap sizy, but effective HP went down because of CNR defense nerf (shield, armor and structure HP). I've checked DPS without drones and it's still lower than pre cruise missile patch.
Here's same build with an unknown version of EFT (old one as names are different).
I've been taking a break from EVE for a long time, but what happened here? Defense went down by almost a half? Is it a shopped image that I found or the changes were really this big?
Cheers. |
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