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Kery Nysell
Nysell Incorporated
75
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:14:00 -
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Erm, I'm seeing HUGE differences in cap life between eVe and EFT using this fit :
[Scimitar, NIS Scimitar]
Lows :
Power Diagnostic System II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Mediums :
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Highs :
Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II
Rigs :
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Drones :
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4 Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
I know that I'm not at Logistics 5 yet, hence the Cap Recharger II in the meds, but EFT gives me 5 minutes 29 seconds of cap-life while in eVe I have 3 minutes 12 seconds ...
User error ? I might be a total noob at EFTing, indeed ... or does eVe calculate things differently ?
I've noticed differences in cap-life on other fittings too, but this one is the biggest ... and when planning ship fits for Incursions, it makes a whole world of difference ...
Thanks in advance for any input ! My skills : Kery Nysell, Jestra Nysell, Kotoko Nysell, Kotone Nysell |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
133
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Posted - 2013.08.30 22:03:00 -
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issues like that are almost always a result of un-updated skills. i'd redownload your character's skills through the character browser to get that fixed.
i am very much looking forward to the new marauder bonuses and the bastion module! i always enjoy playing with new ship stuff in eft after it comes out =) |
Kery Nysell
Nysell Incorporated
75
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Posted - 2013.08.30 22:27:00 -
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Wingmate wrote:issues like that are almost always a result of un-updated skills. i'd redownload your character's skills through the character browser to get that fixed.
Sorry, but nope, I tried that with a fresh install and a new API key, still the same two minutes difference between EFT and eVe ...
I even manually plugged in my implants (I have cap rech / max cap ones), and it *stills* gives me two more minutes in EFT than in "real eVe" ...
My skills : Kery Nysell, Jestra Nysell, Kotoko Nysell, Kotone Nysell |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
47
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Posted - 2013.09.01 03:27:00 -
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Thank you for making this wonderful tool. I have spent more hours than I care to admit messing around with fits in EFT.
I like that you have posted the MD5 hash of the file so people can check that it hasn't been messed with. However the security of the MD5 hash function has been severely compromised. (citation) In the interest of basic security might I suggest using something secure like SHA-512 in the future? |
Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.09.01 15:35:00 -
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Kery Nysell wrote:Erm, I'm seeing HUGE differences in cap life between eVe and EFT using this fit :
[Scimitar, NIS Scimitar]
Lows :
Power Diagnostic System II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Mediums :
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Highs :
Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II Large Shield Transporter II
Rigs :
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Drones :
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4 Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
I know that I'm not at Logistics 5 yet, hence the Cap Recharger II in the meds, but EFT gives me 5 minutes 29 seconds of cap-life while in eVe I have 3 minutes 12 seconds ...
User error ? I might be a total noob at EFTing, indeed ... or does eVe calculate things differently ?
I've noticed differences in cap-life on other fittings too, but this one is the biggest ... and when planning ship fits for Incursions, it makes a whole world of difference ...
Thanks in advance for any input !
I copied the all-level-V character, and reduced logistics to IV from V using your fit... it gave me 1m 20s of cap life. With all-level-V it's cap stable at 59%. Are you sure you don't have implants out-of-sync between EFT and EVE?
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Kery Nysell
Nysell Incorporated
76
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:25:00 -
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Gospadin wrote:I copied the all-level-V character, and reduced logistics to IV from V using your fit... it gave me 1m 20s of cap life. With all-level-V it's cap stable at 59%. Are you sure you don't have implants out-of-sync between EFT and EVE?
I might have done something wrong somewhere, but EFT doesn't want to automatically update my Hardwiring implants, I have to enter them manually in the Character Editor window ...
With a "all level V modified" to set Sensor Linking and Logistics at 4 (my current levels) and without any implants, I also get the 1 min 19 secs cap life ...
The big difference is between eVe and EFT ... I won't trash my implants just to test it but when I remove them in EFT I'm back to the 1min 19secs instead of the 5 mins ...
After several tests, it looks like its the "Inherent Implants 'Squire' Energy Management EM-805" in slot 8 that forces the jump from 1 minute to 5 minutes ...
And that's still two minutes more than what eVe tells me when I get into my Scimitar ... My skills : Kery Nysell, Jestra Nysell, Kotoko Nysell, Kotone Nysell |
Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.09.01 18:35:00 -
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Kery Nysell wrote:Gospadin wrote:I copied the all-level-V character, and reduced logistics to IV from V using your fit... it gave me 1m 20s of cap life. With all-level-V it's cap stable at 59%. Are you sure you don't have implants out-of-sync between EFT and EVE?
I might have done something wrong somewhere, but EFT doesn't want to automatically update my Hardwiring implants, I have to enter them manually in the Character Editor window ... With a "all level V modified" to set Sensor Linking and Logistics at 4 (my current levels) and without any implants, I also get the 1 min 19 secs cap life ... The big difference is between eVe and EFT ... I won't trash my implants just to test it but when I remove them in EFT I'm back to the 1min 19secs instead of the 5 mins ... After several tests, it looks like its the "Inherent Implants 'Squire' Energy Management EM-805" in slot 8 that forces the jump from 1 minute to 5 minutes ... And that's still two minutes more than what eVe tells me when I get into my Scimitar ...
As I posted on the previous page, EFT and EVE don't agree on stacking penalties between modules and implants. (My example was 4 BCUs and an implant showing different DPS in game and in EFT)
I'm guessing the same bug affects you.
If you take out one of the cap power relays or cap recharger, I'm guessing EFT and EVE will agree with each other. |
John Pontius
Alzhara Industries
1
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Posted - 2013.09.02 16:16:00 -
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Contains virus? |
Petal Asanari
PonyWaffe Insidious Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:12:00 -
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Any update for the Odyssey 1.1? |
Yabba Addict
The Lost Minmatar Legion LEX LEGIONEM
71
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:19:00 -
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Petal Asanari wrote:Any update for the Odyssey 1.1?
Lol, i knew what this post would say as soon as i saw this thread back at the top
Try waiting a few weeks
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Petal Asanari
PonyWaffe Insidious Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:40:00 -
[1541] - Quote
No! I want it now! |
Javon Bars
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:52:00 -
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Maybe this is Odyssey 1.1 related but EFT allows medium ASBs to load navy cap boosters 25, if you try that ingame you get a "The Capacitor Booster Charge is size 1,00, this Fueled Shield Booster requires size 2,00." error. |
My'thein Shazih
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:08:00 -
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Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat. |
Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
98
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:18:00 -
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Waiting for Oddyssey 1.1 update.
Lot of HAC's fittings to try :P |
Ruyman BR
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:25:00 -
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My'thein Shazih wrote:Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat.
Same here. Seriour threat |
Faldal Dartan
Carnivore Company WINMATAR.
8
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:41:00 -
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lf Odyssey 1.1 update...need to warrior wit teh HACs :) |
Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
108
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:06:00 -
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Ruyman BR wrote:My'thein Shazih wrote:Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat. Same here. Seriour threat
The problem might be the fact that you are using AVG. It is possibly the worst anti-virus software out there. Use avast. Unless you were downloading from some unofficial link, in that case the problem is you. |
Sergant Steel
Fallen Supremacy
18
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:41:00 -
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Seraph Castillon wrote:Ruyman BR wrote:My'thein Shazih wrote:Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat. Same here. Seriour threat The problem might be the fact that you are using AVG. It is possibly the worst anti-virus software out there. Use avast. Unless you were downloading from some unofficial link, in that case the problem is you. Or use Kaspersky....i mean it is what barclays use o.0 you can get 3 free copies if you're with them |
Kiernan Shipka
The Laidai Trading Company
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:51:00 -
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Ruyman BR wrote:My'thein Shazih wrote:Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat. Same here. Seriour threat
Hit yourself with a heavy object for allowing yourself to install that terrible program on your system.
Uninstall, reinstall a better alternative ... Problem resolved.
Kiernan |
Gripen
1672
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:54:00 -
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Leta Lilitu wrote:Is there a feature to create a "commonly used modules" custom palette or whatever, where you add all the modules you always use i.e. Damage Controls, prop mods etc
Perhaps if you make this feature available, make us able to create multiple and save them, so we can open our "shield tanking palette" and fill it with invulns, extenders, tracking enhancers etc. There is a Favorites folder for that purpose on the Fitting Panel where you can drag modules to. It is also possible to create subfolders there and even hide standart market tree as at least for me Favorites+Search is enough.
Kery Nysell wrote:I might have done something wrong somewhere, but EFT doesn't want to automatically update my Hardwiring implants, I have to enter them manually in the Character Editor window ...
With a "all level V modified" to set Sensor Linking and Logistics at 4 (my current levels) and without any implants, I also get the 1 min 19 secs cap life ...
The big difference is between eVe and EFT ... I won't trash my implants just to test it but when I remove them in EFT I'm back to the 1min 19secs instead of the 5 mins ... EFT does not import hardwiring implants as they are not listed by API so you should double-check which implants you have in game and EFT. It isn't possible that you could have that much difference only because of one 5% implant. Looking at your numbers it seems like you have both "Energy Systems Operation EO-605" and "Energy Management EM-805" implants in EFT while 4% and 5% implants ingame.
My'thein Shazih wrote:Downloaded the latest EFT from the link provided. As soon as launched AVG stopped and removed the exe stating the program had behavioral modifications, serious threat. There is a nice service https://www.virustotal.com which you can use to check if it's a false positive on your antivirus side (which happens sometimes) or there is a problem indeed. I use it all the time as a part of new version deployment process.
New version is ready. |
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1549
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:54:00 -
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Love you, Gripen. Thanks again. Damn quick this time too. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1550
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:01:00 -
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Looks like Claymore is still erroneously a turret boat. Can't fit more than 2 launchers on it. |
Sergant Steel
Fallen Supremacy
19
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:30:00 -
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WOW GRIPEN IN 1 DAY!!! Ur da baws.
Steel |
Kery Nysell
Nysell Incorporated
77
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:34:00 -
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Gripen wrote:The big difference is between eVe and EFT ... I won't trash my implants just to test it but when I remove them in EFT I'm back to the 1min 19secs instead of the 5 mins ... EFT does not import hardwiring implants as they are not listed by API so you should double-check which implants you have in game and EFT. It isn't possible that you could have that much difference only because of one 5% implant. Looking at your numbers it seems like you have both "Energy Systems Operation EO-605" and "Energy Management EM-805" implants in EFT while 4% and 5% implants ingame.[/quote]
I checked and double-checked, I indeed have the EM-805 and EO-605 both ingame and in EFT ... I'm a bit too far from my Scimitar (and it's too late, work tomorrow morning) to recheck after the patch tough.
Many, many thanks for the ultrafast update !
My skills : Kery Nysell, Jestra Nysell, Kotoko Nysell, Kotone Nysell |
Nicolas Quasar
BERUM Mining Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:58:00 -
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[BUG] Miasmos Cargohold: 950 m3 <- bad Cargohold: 550 m3 <-good |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
220
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:07:00 -
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Thanks for the quick update!
Zhilia Mann wrote:Looks like Claymore is still erroneously a turret boat. Can't fit more than 2 launchers on it. Confirmed, same issue here. |
Ami Quintero
Royal Trading Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange
1
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:14:00 -
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Wow, already? You rock. |
Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
110
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:45:00 -
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Thank you sir. |
Kaddiska
O-NIWABAN
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:53:00 -
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seriously.....this guy! been playing this game since 2005 and it's guys like this that make it worthwhile
/me tips hat
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Ong
Born-2-Kill
91
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:56:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Looks like Claymore is still erroneously a turret boat. Can't fit more than 2 launchers on it.
Confirming this
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