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nat longshot
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:17:00 -
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Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.
If t2 command ships can enter 4/10 sites why cant t3's hell any battlecruiser can enter them.
So what the point of having a ship that made to explore when you lock out 4/10s and stick them to only 5/10 and up?
WTF CCP.
-á[13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!! |
GreenSeed
372
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:20:00 -
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because highsec is for new players, if you are a grown up go explore low or NPC null.
there's a ton of space on NPC null that sees less than 4 - 5 jumps/h, go there. |
Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
605
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:20:00 -
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because **** you that's why. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Havoc Zealot
Tactical Suicide Squad
32
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:22:00 -
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So you are saying they turned off your easy mode? OH NOESS!!!! |
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
132
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:23:00 -
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all trollin aside, you knew it was to easy in the first place didnt you? Oderint Dum Metuant |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:24:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's. No. T3 are ships to do just about anything, with a penchant for doing it in tricky environmentsGǪ i.e. not 4/10s.
T3s are massive overkill for 4/10s anyway, and if you can fly one, you can fly a HAC or something that will still be allowed in and do the site with ease. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Sarmatiko
1193
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:30:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's. I think, when you talk about T3 and 3/4/10 you confusing "exploration" with "easy riskless farming". T3 made for exploration, so go and explore - it's whole new exciting world behind high-sec gates. -¥ |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:31:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.
If t2 command ships can enter 4/10 sites why cant t3's hell any battlecruiser can enter them.
So what the point of having a ship that made to explore when you lock out 4/10s and stick them to only 5/10 and up?
WTF CCP.
Are you ovulating? |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:32:00 -
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Btw, I've found T3 is best in C1, C2 and C3. Also pretty good in < 0.5.
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Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
548
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:40:00 -
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Who said anything about high-sec? The 4/10s are off limits in low-sec too. It may not be brain surgery, but I wouldn't exactly call it easy to PvE in a shiny in low-sec. |
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nat longshot
The Scope Gallente Federation
174
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:47:00 -
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as yes 9 trolls so far nice.
And the reason i dont go to fanfest all the AAAclowns i would ........ well you get the point.
eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out.
well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.
Way to many ship changes probing on easy mode and all the other bull$^)#$ ccp but in a explore build and locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10 and they locked them out.
Ya we got a free probing battlecruiser that cant tanks **** and has **** dps so iam done and no my stuff will rust in my hanger you cant have it.
-á[13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:49:00 -
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okay peace it's not as if you paid out of pocket anyway Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
548
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:50:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:as yes 9 trolls so far nice.
And the reason i dont go to fanfest all the AAAclowns i would ........ well you get the point.
eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out.
well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.
Way to many ship changes probing on easy mode and all the other bull$^)#$ ccp but in a explore build and locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10 and they locked them out.
Ya we got a free probing battlecruiser that cant tanks **** and has **** dps so iam done and no my stuff will rust in my hanger you cant have it.
Well you must be upset as I supported you and one person posted twice, so I count 7 (before Andski posted). I guess now I am 8. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
12577
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:50:00 -
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I will be your OBGYN for today... now let's get that nasty old sand out of there "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:50:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:as yes 9 trolls so far nice. well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.
Can I have your T3?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14588
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:53:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:as yes 9 trolls so far nice. Really? I only count three.
Quote:eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out. Sure there was. They were simply ridiculously mismatched. The ship restrictions are there for a reason, and the T3s did not comply with them.
Quote:locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10 No, they're not. No ship is GÇ£made for 4/10GÇ¥. There are plenty of ships not made for them, though, and now T3s are added to that list since there's absolutely no reason to allow them in. If you want to argue that more ships should be locked out as well, then sure, but that's not really the route you're takingGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Seniae 0n3
28
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:55:00 -
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You know you're OP when things get too easy |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
615
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:nat longshot wrote:Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's. No. T3 are ships to do just about anything, with a penchant for doing it in tricky environmentsGǪ i.e. not 4/10s. T3s are massive overkill for 4/10s anyway, and if you can fly one, you can fly a HAC or something that will still be allowed in and do the site with ease. Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3.
Let's follow your logic though.10 pirates ganking a Venture is overkill too. CCP nerfing gate camps? This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:32:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Let's follow your logic though.10 pirates ganking a Venture is overkill too. CCP nerfing gate camps?
They can't nerf unscripted content.
They can't fix gate/station sentries neither by the way *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:32:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:because highsec is for new players, if you are a grown up go explore low or NPC null.
there's a ton of space on NPC null that sees less than 4 - 5 jumps/h, go there.
Loki is a combat class ship meant for PvP (Marauders are the PvE ships, designed for mission running lvl 4+s)...so off to low/null for ISK farming. They're forcing miners out there, the rest of the lazy scared profiteers in big expensive ships need to follow.
A Moa is fine for 3/10, a Drake for 4/10. Perfect ships for skilling players that need the tank for those sites. Anything else is being a chicken to possible PvP. Got the T3 ship, put it in it's environment, which isn't newbie sites. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14588
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:35:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3. None that matter or can't be picked up in minutes.
So just go get a HAC and get on with it, or a pirate cruiser if you're particularly lazy.
Quote:Let's follow your logic though Ok. What other content is there that are designed around mechanical restrictions on what you can bring in order to maintain a minute shred of risk to your paintjob? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Litair
Donchian Stripes
26
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:36:00 -
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I think it's pretty awkward to lock out any ships from any sites in the first place anyways.. If you can afford a fancy high end ship and want to waste your time grinding easy sites, then fine with me. If you want to really use that ship to the fullest, have a challenge and probably make a lot more profit, you can do that as well with a greater risk of blowing it up. That's kinda the EVE way, isn't it? |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
615
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:37:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:GreenSeed wrote:because highsec is for new players, if you are a grown up go explore low or NPC null.
there's a ton of space on NPC null that sees less than 4 - 5 jumps/h, go there. Loki is a combat class ship meant for PvP (Marauders are the PvE ships, designed for mission running lvl 4+s)...so off to low/null for ISK farming. They're forcing miners out there, the rest of the lazy scared profiteers in big expensive ships need to follow. A Moa is fine for 3/10, a Drake for 4/10. Perfect ships for skilling players that need the tank for those sites. Anything else is being a chicken to possible PvP. Got the T3 ship, put it in it's environment, which isn't newbie sites. Adding to the flawed logic.
A cruiser flown by someone with all skills at 5 is > someone who only has skills to fly a T3. Flying a T3 in of itself does not make it overkill, it just has more potential based on the pilot's skill.
And stating a T3 is a PvP ship....T3's are not a PvP'ers ship of choice. Fly what you can lose. With T3's that statement includes SP. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
615
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3. None that matter or can't be picked up in minutes. So just go get a HAC and get on with it, or a pirate cruiser if you're particularly lazy. Quote:Let's follow your logic though Ok. What other content is there that are designed around mechanical restrictions on what you can bring in order to maintain a minute shred of risk to your paintjob? Really? Newbs read these forums so let's try and keep the content accurate. It is many days between a HAC and a T3. Throw in whatever implants you want.
Read my following post. Restricting ships is too broad as it discounts the wide disparity in pilot skills. When i first skilled into a T3 I could do like 200 dps in it and had no T2 modules. I now can do 600 dps in a catalyst so maybe catalyt's shouldn't be allowed in 4/10's. (yeah I am ignoring defense, but you are ignoring pilot skill so we are even)
But for your example, mining. There are mechanical restrictions to accessing content without gate restrictions.
Got anything else or are you going to call me a doo doo head and be done with it?
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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General Guardian
The Guardian Knights
12
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:45:00 -
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People will find the most ridiculous things to complain about after patch day. And molest the English language while doing so.
What will people do now? Use Navy Battlecruisers? What a silly idea |
Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
548
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:46:00 -
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Just point me to the people that are wise enough to take a battlecruiser or HAC solo into low-sec. |
DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:50:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.
If t2 command ships can enter 4/10 sites why cant t3's hell any battlecruiser can enter them.
So what the point of having a ship that made to explore when you lock out 4/10s and stick them to only 5/10 and up?
WTF CCP.
Learn 2 EVE |
Allison A'vani
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
50
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:53:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Tippia wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3. None that matter or can't be picked up in minutes. So just go get a HAC and get on with it, or a pirate cruiser if you're particularly lazy. Quote:Let's follow your logic though Ok. What other content is there that are designed around mechanical restrictions on what you can bring in order to maintain a minute shred of risk to your paintjob? Really? Newbs read these forums so let's try and keep the content accurate. It is many days between a HAC and a T3. Throw in whatever implants you want.
MFW complaining about days of skill training, I remember when I had things that only took days instead of weeks to train... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2847
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:58:00 -
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I've been watching T3s blitz 4/10s since 2010.
Every time CCP would go on an unholy rage on botters, in would come the 0.0 renters, their botters banned and thus unable to pay the rent, and they would be blitzing 4/10s like they were nothing.
I brought this up in the exploration channel and oh the insults and denials flowed like.... tears.
People have been doing this for a long time and lying about it. It's like "ooooh my easy mode". And now someone says there was no call for a change. Right. It's like Rock Hudson's sex life: everybody knew about it until he got sick then everybody was talking about it.
People have blitzed 4/10s with T3s for YEARS making a haul of it. CCP fixed that.
Life will go on. if there be tears to grease the skids, then so be it. Most of the people who will not like this are the ones who knew they had an easy mode and they deserve it.
Honestly, I waited a very long time for this day because I know a lot of names who are probably crying right about now.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14589
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:59:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:It is many days between a HAC and a T3. One requires Cruiser V and HAC I, which in turn requires three standard must-have support skills to V. The other requires StratCruiser I, which in turn requires Cruiser V and five standard must-have support skills to V.
If you can fly the latter, flying the former is just a matter of injecting the HAC skill, unless your skill set is so horrid that you shouldn't be in a T3 to begin with. It's a matter of minutes to get the ship.
Quote:Restricting ships is too broad as it discounts the wide disparity in pilot skills. No, that's why the restrictions are there: so that no matter how high your skills, there is a limit to what you can bring. T3s have correclty been deemed GÇ£too muchGÇ¥ for something as trivial as a 4/10. Once they get nerfed and HACs buffed so that the two have the correct offensive capabilities in relation to each other, then maybe it should be swapped. Until then, T3s being locked out is as it should be.
Quote:But for your example, mining. There are mechanical restrictions to accessing content without gate restrictions. GǪsuch as? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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