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Khira Kitamatsu
595
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:57:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Funny, how there are multiple threads with hundreds of posts against it and just this one with barely 2 pages, and half of them not even supporting to keep it (me included). Shows really how appreciated they are.
That's because people that have a complaint speak out more than those that are happy - this has all ready been proven. If you want your button to turn off the animation - fine, just don't have CCP remove it.
My suggestion for the time being is to open the market window or look away from the screen while jumping - if it makes you that sick. Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:01:00 -
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I love the new jump animation
People that dislike it or complain are trolling or would just rather play Microsoft Excel with an Eve Mod.
it's not long enough to cause motion sickness anyhow. Even the longest jumps the animation only lasts for a couple seconds...
if it lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds you need to upgrade your pc or get a solid state hard drive or something.
the jump animation lasts about 2 and half seconds for me and it's awesome. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:17:00 -
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Kewso wrote:I love the new jump animation
People that dislike it or complain are trolling or would just rather play Microsoft Excel with an Eve Mod.
it's not long enough to cause motion sickness anyhow. Even the longest jumps the animation only lasts for a couple seconds...
if it lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds you need to upgrade your pc or get a solid state hard drive or something.
the jump animation lasts about 2 and half seconds for me and it's awesome. Way to prove that you have no idea what you are talking about, on all fronts you tried. SSHD? Seriously? My grandmother knows more about computers than you do. |
Johan Toralen
Clockwork X3
84
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:29:00 -
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I don't even notice the jump animation anymore. It used to be way worse when it was first introduced on Sisi. Like a roller coaster ride and i don't even get motion sickness.
That said an option to replace it with black screen for people who still get physically sick from it would hurt nobody. |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
876
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:32:00 -
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Options are good.
I agree that adding them (like the Station Ship Hanger or CQ) doesn't break the experience for those of us that adore this new smooth and seamless experience.
Perhaps read this advice http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sitting/AN02082 ?
I'm not an expert, but I *do* have to sit through talks about this stuff for work every year and sign off that I actually paid attention.
Playing computer games for more than an hour = will affect your health but who knows exactly how each person will be affected.
AFK (off for a coffee and to get away from my desk for a few)
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
18
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:37:00 -
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all where asking for is the option to turn it off, like captains quarters.
honestly i am tired of eves shet over the past 7 years, every year i have to complain when they release an expac i have played plenty of mmo that release expacs that are enjoyable wtf is wrong with ccp ?
it seems nerf and expansion are the same word to ccp. |
Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kusum Fawn wrote:I dont understand the resistance to having an optional checkbox for turning off animations.
I mean, wouldnt you have loved a checkbox for the Universal Inventory that read "emulate old Inventory" ?
Wouldn't you like a checkbox to turn off the clouds? Wouldn't you have liked a checkbox to turn off the CQ? We dont need a check box because people are telling lies. Since I do not live in the bodies of everyone complaining, I can't say that you are wrong, for a lot of people. That being said, I went from playing Eve about five to eight hours per day before Tuesday, to the few minutes that it took me to make three gate jumps, get ill, make the three jumps back to station while looking away, and dock up. Haven't logged in since, and cancelled sub when I found that there was no option to kill the animation. I assure you, if I were lying, I'd still be playing whilst complaining about it. Though you don't have access to the information to verify my claim, CCP does, and that's all that matters. See a doctor, you have bigger issues.
Would someone from CCP immediately Moderate this clown here. Some people are just too dumb .. sigh!
And to answer the OP. I also do not want to remove the animation. I just wish I get a chance to turn it off, that's it. Some may like it and only good for them but there are also some who do not like it and not only that but some have even health problems with it. |
Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
166
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:52:00 -
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Effect One wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:20% of the population gets motion sickness off just this kind of issue. Source? Or is this just a made up internet statistic? Seems like a disproportionately high value for an obscure side effect.
94% of military experts are calling OP a bad poaster |
KrakizBad
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
1355
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:00:00 -
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I also really like it (although I wish you had left the ability to turn it off for those poor bastards who are getting motion sickness) but it seems to me that system load takes longer now. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
388
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:25:00 -
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JD No7 wrote:These people getting motion sickness need to see a doctor and/or stop playing computer games.
That's like saying soldiers without hands should see a doctor about their hand problem and/or stop playing computer games. You know, instead of people investing time in developing new input methods such as mind control.
baltec1 wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:baltec1 wrote: See a doctor, you have bigger issues.
You may be right, but it's funny how I didn't need to see a doctor to play Eve before Tuesday. All the more reason to go see one. Something is clearly not right with you if this is setting you off. Not everybody is fortunate enough to be able to see a doctor. 15% of Americans are uninsured for various reasons, others cant afford it for other reasons. Healthcare is a broken system in several other countries too. |
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
540
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:28:00 -
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xavier69 wrote:all where asking for is the option to turn it off, like captains quarters.
honestly i am tired of eves shet over the past 7 years, every year i have to complain when they release an expac i have played plenty of mmo that release expacs that are enjoyable wtf is wrong with ccp ?
it seems nerf and expansion are the same word to ccp.
If you hurts you that much, then maybe you shoud go away? "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Auract
Blood Tide
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:36:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:Please CCP, please keep the jump animation. Many of us like it instead of the loading bar. This also helps with the immersion factor. Plus you took time and resources to place it into the game. So please, please do not take it out. Nobody wants it removed. They just want a checkbox to disable it for themselves if they have motion sickness.
Correct, Just the ability to turn it off or on. I don't mind it every now and again, but the inability to turn it off is something many would like. |
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:27:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kewso wrote:I love the new jump animation
People that dislike it or complain are trolling or would just rather play Microsoft Excel with an Eve Mod.
it's not long enough to cause motion sickness anyhow. Even the longest jumps the animation only lasts for a couple seconds...
if it lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds you need to upgrade your pc or get a solid state hard drive or something.
the jump animation lasts about 2 and half seconds for me and it's awesome. Way to prove that you have no idea what you are talking about, on all fronts you tried. SSHD? Seriously? My grandmother knows more about computers than you do.
the jump animation length is direct related to loading time
the faster your hard drive the faster the jump animation is.
on my laptop mechanical hard drive the jumpgate animation rides for about 8 seconds
my gaming pc with the kingston 120g solid state drive the jumpgate animation ride is 2 seconds.
I only have a CCNA certification but of course no sense in trying to prove or argue with board trolls |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
4
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:34:00 -
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I don't get the 'see a doctor' guy. People get motionsick. They make pills for people to take when on boats and planes. Dr. McCoy can't give you a pill so you'll grow a new visual cortex. Some people don't play FPS because it makes them sick. I myself can stand on my head in the back of a car facing backwards while reading a book and not get sick. But sheesh man have some empathy.
CCP released a feature in a game that is completely third person, that for several seconds turns it into a first person experience. They compounded that by integrating rapid camera motions that are totally out of control of the player. Finally they did that to a portion of the game that every single player other than maybe Gevlon must experience. Some blow back is to be expected. Some issues with people who have issues with first person games should have been anticipated. Eve players are also, in my experience, huge control freaks who probably wouldn't take to the game suddenly doing things for them.
CCP needs to provide an option to turn it off just like they have options to turn off a bunch of other things. |
Aldap
Club Bear
210
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:37:00 -
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I like it too. But I want to be able to turn it off... like, yesterday. Because I do long roams, with many jumps, and as nice as that animation is, and it is... It still gets old very fast, and bothersome. Just let me turn it off and all is well. My latest solo PvP videos |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2852
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:38:00 -
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In America, we design all concepts around our roads.
And if you have one tard in the road, EVERYBODY is going the same speed as the tard.
So, naturally, if a few people claim to get sick from the jump animation, it's expected that it would be gotten rid of.
Luckily CCP is in Iceland.
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
4
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:39:00 -
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Kewso wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kewso wrote:I love the new jump animation
People that dislike it or complain are trolling or would just rather play Microsoft Excel with an Eve Mod.
it's not long enough to cause motion sickness anyhow. Even the longest jumps the animation only lasts for a couple seconds...
if it lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds you need to upgrade your pc or get a solid state hard drive or something.
the jump animation lasts about 2 and half seconds for me and it's awesome. Way to prove that you have no idea what you are talking about, on all fronts you tried. SSHD? Seriously? My grandmother knows more about computers than you do. the jump animation length is direct related to loading time the faster your hard drive the faster the jump animation is. on my laptop mechanical hard drive the jumpgate animation rides for about 8 seconds my gaming pc with the kingston 120g solid state drive the jumpgate animation ride is 2 seconds. I only have a CCNA certification but of course no sense in trying to prove or argue with board trolls
Yes CCP telling players to upgrade their computer so they can see a animation they don't like and isn't a necessary game mechanic for the least amount of time possible seems like a good strategy. I think maybe board troll is calling the board troll a troll. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
87
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:42:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In America, we design all concepts around our roads.
And if you have one tard in the road, EVERYBODY is going the same speed as the tard.
So, naturally, if a few people claim to get sick from the jump animation, it's expected that it would be gotten rid of.
Luckily CCP is in Iceland.
Again, no one is asking them to get rid of it. We are merely asking for the option to disable it. You guys want your glorified toilet flush? Great, have at it. For those of us that it bothers, it should be optional. |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
180
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 -
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Look away from the screen when you jump. |
Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
551
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:54:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I don't get the 'see a doctor' guy. People get motionsick. They make pills for people to take when on boats and planes. Dr. McCoy can't give you a pill so you'll grow a new visual cortex. Some people don't play FPS because it makes them sick. I myself can stand on my head in the back of a car facing backwards while reading a book and not get sick. But sheesh man have some empathy.
CCP released a feature in a game that is completely third person, that for several seconds turns it into a first person experience. They compounded that by integrating rapid camera motions that are totally out of control of the player. Finally they did that to a portion of the game that every single player other than maybe Gevlon must experience. Some blow back is to be expected. Some issues with people who have issues with first person games should have been anticipated. Eve players are also, in my experience, huge control freaks who probably wouldn't take to the game suddenly doing things for them.
CCP needs to provide an option to turn it off just like they have options to turn off a bunch of other things.
Bravo. Intelligent life is found in the thread.
P.S. I look away (local or dscan) as I don't get that sick (more like disoriented) but not sure how it's going to work with PvPers so affected,, the 1/2-1 sec delay. Should find out today or tomorrow how it works (or doesn't) for me. |
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Seven Koskanaiken
Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted
192
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:06:00 -
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I cover it up with the browser, so you can still get the overview and local info after jump. I'm not expecting an option anytime soon. I have Meniere's Disease and the animation is way too much for me. It's quite annoying to have something added to the game to create problems where there were none before, but whatever. |
Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
551
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:12:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In America, we design all concepts around our roads.
And if you have one tard in the road, EVERYBODY is going the same speed as the tard.
So, naturally, if a few people claim to get sick from the jump animation, it's expected that it would be gotten rid of.
Luckily CCP is in Iceland.
In America, we tend to accommodate people who have handicaps (beyond even that which is legally necessary) and not send them out on an iceberg. We really should stop that. Get rid of everyone who isn't like me. Great philosophy. |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate Hashashin Cartel
366
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:20:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kusum Fawn wrote:I dont understand the resistance to having an optional checkbox for turning off animations.
I mean, wouldnt you have loved a checkbox for the Universal Inventory that read "emulate old Inventory" ?
Wouldn't you like a checkbox to turn off the clouds? Wouldn't you have liked a checkbox to turn off the CQ? We dont need a check box because people are telling lies. Since I do not live in the bodies of everyone complaining, I can't say that you are wrong, for a lot of people. That being said, I went from playing Eve about five to eight hours per day before Tuesday, to the few minutes that it took me to make three gate jumps, get ill, make the three jumps back to station while looking away, and dock up. Haven't logged in since, and cancelled sub when I found that there was no option to kill the animation. I assure you, if I were lying, I'd still be playing whilst complaining about it. Though you don't have access to the information to verify my claim, CCP does, and that's all that matters.
I'm surprised people do get sickness from this animation, but I'm not against a check button to turn it off.
If you were to look away during the animation does that keep you from feeling ill? If so, why not just do that while waiting for a check box instead of not playing at all? It's a PITA I'm sure but I'd probably put up with it for awhile at least if I wanted to EVE. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |
kr0NE11
NullOcular Order The Unthinkables
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:25:00 -
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Ok, I do not get motion sickness, now that is out of the way I will explain why these new graphical touches are a big game spoiler for myself.
First, the whole reason I got hooked on playing Eve was the immersive world we as players inhabited, its space and as such is not meant to have bright colourfull diamonds littering the vast depths of blackness, this totally takesaway the immersion of being in another world right out of the frame and then we have the gate animation, thats all I'll say about that, enough has already been posted.
What ccp have done right here is take a living and breathing alternate world, one in which a player could get totally lost in for hours and be apart of and turned it into a .......... video game.
Eve just lost its unique immersive raw qualitys that made it stand out from the crowd and turned the atmosherics into something that reminds us every few minutes that we are just playing a game.
I don't want colourfull shapes lighting up the darkness of a space mmog, I dont want to be jerked back from my immersion every minute when on a roam, dont try to keep up with other games on the bells and whistles front, not in space where it is meant to be cold and dark. |
Transmaritanus
Sinister Elite Black Legion.
46
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:30:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:[quote=ACE McFACE] Try not to show your ignorance, 20% of the population gets motion sickness off just this kind of issue.
I really don't think so. Is there a source for this? |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
88
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:31:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote: I'm surprised people do get sickness from this animation, but I'm not against a check button to turn it off.
If you were to look away during the animation does that keep you from feeling ill? If so, why not just do that while waiting for a check box instead of not playing at all? It's a PITA I'm sure but I'd probably put up with it for awhile at least if I wanted to EVE.
Yes, looking away, keeping up the map or browser, etc. does prevent the feeling. However, I honestly feel that by continuing to play a game which is now effectively broken for me by using workarounds, I am giving my consent for them to leave this problem unchecked. I'll keep my skill queue updated, as that obviously doesn't require gatejumping, but other than that, there's not much reason for me to log in as it stands. |
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
14
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:33:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:Please CCP, please keep the jump animation. Many of us like it instead of the loading bar. This also helps with the immersion factor. Plus you took time and resources to place it into the game. So please, please do not take it out.
Agreed. But they still need to fix the gate flash |
LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
72
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:53:00 -
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Gritz1 wrote:Look away from the screen when you jump.
I guess the concept of an option to turn it off does not compute with stupid people like you, looking away from the screen every 2 mins will cause neck/eye strain, so please STFU you stupid troll. |
LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
72
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:57:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:[quote=ACE McFACE] Try not to show your ignorance, 20% of the population gets motion sickness off just this kind of issue.
I really don't think so. Is there a source for this?
"About 33% of people are susceptible to motion sickness even in mild circumstances such as being on a boat in calm water, although nearly 66% of people"
google it... |
Remiel Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
1506
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Posted - 2013.06.07 00:04:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:Transmaritanus wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:[quote=ACE McFACE] Try not to show your ignorance, 20% of the population gets motion sickness off just this kind of issue.
I really don't think so. Is there a source for this? "About 33% of people are susceptible to motion sickness even in mild circumstances such as being on a boat in calm water, although nearly 66% of people" google it...
Well, I did, and...
There is little way to prevent this type of motion sickness except to close one's eyes during such scenes or to avoid such movies.
In other words, the guy that told you to look away before wasn't far off, and not as stupid as you claim. Regardless of how many people it affects, there is very little actual motion going on and far more extreme examples of stuff that might cause motion sickness in other visual media. In any case, I completely agree, and said so before the expansion, that an alternative option needs to be made available. Removing it completely, however, would rob many players that enjoy the experience. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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