Ask Coca-Cola that lessen when they tried to market new Coke as Coke.

Name was there, the taste wasn't, and consumers were irate (the Cola war of the 80s).

Give it time. Beta is a beta and it has barely been out of launch for a month.

Hell it isn't even in effect in Null yet, lets see what comes of it then.

One thing that many ppl don't understand is that abandoning Dust now will not help EVE at all.

Because the money is already invested. And even if we don't need this console crap, we should hope that Dust will be successful. Because if it's not, it'll be a huge money loss for CCP, and EVE will be developing even slower. If not closed.

If there's just a few people on the forums speaking out against it, it really doesn't matter. They say only 10% of the population can think for themselves .. but in EVE I think the number is much smaller. When DUST fails and it will.... you can think of what EVE could have been. It's not like I'm the first person in 6 years to ask CCP to rethink their trajectory, possibly the only one who still bothers.

DUST is a drain on EVE development and the only reason you aren't angry at it (as you were with WiS) is because your earth lords didn't tell you to be (Mitannit, RaindowJudenIII, whoever, Redditcat).

You know it's true

So far I have seen no proof of anything. Unless you have access to CCP's accounts you cannot know how much money Dust is making let alone conjecture that it is "bleeding" EvE dry. People have cited anecdotal evidence about previous similar experiments that aren't actually very similar, mainly due to the fact that linking two different genres on two different platforms into one game world has never been done before.

CCP is not spending your money on DUST. They are spending theirs. The money they earnt by renting access to their game to the players of EvE. Now if they neglect EvE and do not evolve the game to your satisfaction then by all means make your voice heard. We've just had a major (free) expansion and not once has someone said "Odyssey is crap, it must be Dust's fault" in this thread though. So how about we give it a chance.

Edit: Proof read next time Cecil

players of EVE

One thing that many ppl don't understand is that abandoning Dust now will not help EVE at all.

Because the money is already invested. And even if we don't need this console crap, we should hope that Dust will be successful. Because if it's not, it'll be a huge money loss for CCP, and EVE will be developing even slower. If not closed.

Ah yes, the enlightened shepherd has come to awaken us sheeple from our ignorance. Clearly if only we were capable of actually thinking, we would be high-fiving each other and telling op how right they are.

If there's just a few people on the forums speaking out against it, it really doesn't matter. They say only 10% of the population can think for themselves .. but in EVE I think the number is much smaller. When DUST fails and it will.... you can think of what EVE could have been. It's not like I'm the first person in 6 years to ask CCP to rethink their trajectory, possibly the only one who still bothers.

Anyway, in the world of people who make projections of this temporal prison we call earth, facts can be derived from present circumstances. DUST is a drain on EVE development

and the only reason you aren't angry at it (as you were with WiS) is because your earth lords didn't tell you to be (Mitannit, RaindowJudenIII, whoever, Redditcat).

You know it's true

ect. other stuff

I've been living under a wormhole POS for the past 2 years. Who the **** are those guys?

And I want to kick you in the teeth.

But we can't all have what we want, can we?

The internet and gaming changes, can you accept this as an objective reality? EVE doing well over 10 years ago has no bearing on DUST, ok? It's being created with EVE dollars.. right? All I'm saying. Did you know the people at CCP in charge of EVE right now aren't the same as the ones who developed EVE? Did you know that?

( and it's failing but that hardly needs to be argued eve-offline was already linked for you, you only need your mind beyond that you have it right?) )

Eve. Launched to less than glowing reviews. Given a chance. Decade later, one of the most popular MMOs in existence.

Dust 514. Launched to less than glowing reviews. Not more than a month after release, people (specifically fans of Eve) want it taken behind a shed and shot in the face.

Console gamers. When they complain about something, they're whiny little babies.

PC gamers. When they complain about something, they're doing the Lord's work.

Conclusion: I don't know, but I can't stop listening to this song.

Anyway, in the world of people who make projections of this temporal prison we call earth, facts can be derived from present circumstances. DUST is a drain on EVE development and the only reason you aren't angry at it (as you were with WiS) is because your earth lords didn't tell you to be (Mitannit, RaindowJudenIII, whoever, Redditcat). You know it's true

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I can understand the passion and drive some fanatical gamers have toward anygame, however I fail to understand that simply because you are a customer you feel entitled and know what's best for the company.

If its failing then Eve isn't bringing anything to it?

So which is it?

There is passion yeah, but some of us live real lives and some of the things we see in EVE actually conflict with things either illusory in our minds or more so as it were.

We are not INVESTING in the company with our monthly subscriptions. It may seem to many that with simply playing the game we are investing our time and money, however there is no "cash out" option. Services and obligations are forthright dispensed.

The fact is tether a new product to an established product and most will fail.

Why?

The tethered product doesn't have it's own identity. It's own brand.

It's like Bethesda adding Fallout3 to Skyrim. It wouldn't sell to either market, and probably annoy both.

When CCP makes a PC version, maybe then they can unlink the two, and let DUST develop into it's own brand.

It doesn't need to piggyback onto EvE for EvE players to play it. Fans will play it because they're CCP fans, genre fans or just want to try something different. And from there it grows it's own wings and becomes it's own.

If it existed in 2007 I may have played it then, but Battlefield 2142 got there first, and now I like the brand and play the series (and hoping for BF2143). If DICE added it as a DLC to BF2, I would never have gotten it. Got sick quick of the 1000000000001 modern warfare or WWII games at the time, and wouldn't even give it a second looks. Was there at Wal-Mart one day, and BF2 box and a BF2142 box were side by side. Walked out with BF2142, as that's more interesting.

Who would probably like that money spent on their hobby rather than some inane, derivative console shooter which is going nowhere.