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Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:01:00 -
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Hello! First off let me say that though some of what I have to say may come across as negative I am not raging or attempting to blast anything. The point of this thread is to just lay out my point of view and experiences so maybe I get some useful input or viable options to help change so be gentle with us newbies! Oh and I'm sorry for the wall. I didn't mean it to turn out that way so sorry.
I have been playing Eve for about...2 months of so. Not long to be sure. Definitely not long enough to even have the faintest idea of what lies in the darker corners of space. That, however is kind of the point of this thread. But first, a bit of history. When I first started EvE I figured out in the first day or so that this was not a game you could grind to level with. That didn't particularly bother me. I banged through all of the tutorial and career agent missions in short order and set off on my adventures into the great voids of space. Me being a bit a research nut led me to have an understanding about low sec and null etc. So no accidentally wandering into 0.0 for me! Nope. I determined that high sec seemed a bit to kosher for me. Ive always played on PVP servers in every other MMO I have ever played.
I knew that I couldn't do much to help in a big 0.0 fleet brawl ( zero actually) so I figured to get into 0.0, make money, and have a place I could get to know people I should go miner to start. So I used the corp finder, tracked down the biggest 0.0 mining corp I could, app'd and zoomed off to null in my little venture. Big mistake. I made the assumption that I would have the opportunity to at least tag along on fleet ops from time to time in my little tackle Rifter. Could I save the day? Hardly. Could I so SOMETHING? Maybe. The reality of the that assumption would be summed up to me quite clearly in short order. Not welcome. I showed up at every CTA and posted roam in my little Rifter only to be sent packing by the FC. Cant fly a Battleship? Go home.
The problem with going home was that our little mining system kept getting invaded by PL. Sweet! Lets go kill him *runs for his Rifter* NOPE, MUST STAY DOCKED, CORP RULE. Sigh. One clown in a cov-ops camped it for ever and mercilessly hot dropped anyone foolish enough to undock. The corps answer? Dock up and hide. The alliance's answer, you know, the guys who's ships my corp built for free with the minerals we mined non-stop was some where between "meh" and "oh well". Eventually I had enough of staying docked for days while one guy held an entire alliance's production chain hostage. It was boring. So, I packed up my little Rifter and headed back to Jita. After that I discovered I could have SOME fun by running the gauntlet to and from Jita to my home system carrying BPC's, BPO's and skill books for corp mates. My alliance had a lovely gate camp almost perma-setup at a major choke point into null and I tried to join that with my little Rifter but alas... Go home. Then the Eve mails started coming in. "Were keeping track of who is mining what and who is fulfilling our needs and who is not". Now, I get this. The chain needs food. But why would I sit around ducking in and out of dock mining my little rear off (BORING) to provide ships to guys who wont even come defend us? I don't know, but those mails suddenly made me feel like I was paying my monthly so other guys could go have fun on my back and I was stuck in some odd form of digital slavery. Thus the inevitable... I quit the corp.
Thus began the next section of my short saga. PVE content. I spent the next few weeks grinding up my standings to get access to higher level missions. Now, I'm maybe a day from level 4's. Not going to happen though. Gods that was boring too. I wanted to fight! Not shoot lasers at rocks or missiles at unthinking bots. The missions were fun enough, except it seemed like every time I deployed a drone it got shot instantly. My solution? I clearly needed to fly something bigger! So, with a bit of focused training, some PLEX, and a bit of research I landed myself a pretty faction fit CNR. Now, I KNOW my support skills blow and I have no business in such a ship and blah blah blah. Yeah, got it. But, since I'm paying for it, and playing alone who cares?
That lasted a bit. Then, the final month. I haven't undocked in about 30 days. Why bother? I sit for hours watching the recruitment channel looking for a corp I can go pew with that doesn't seem like a handful of weirdos, douche bags or elitist monkeys trying to get rich off the corp tax. Plenty come up too but its always the same..."15m sp min" "40m SP min". Sigh. I tried with a couple and even had one tell me over TS to drop hundreds of dollars in PLEX and buy a good high SP char from the bazaar THEN they would be happy take me. !@#$%^&&* I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a game I haven't even been able to determine if I like it or not!
Its the ultimate catch 22. I don't care if I die but I'm not into replacing 50 mil in implants every time, and it seems very clear due to the top heavy nature of the player base on SP that I'm not going anywhere without them for my first 6ish months. RvB? Yeah, not replacing the implants. Ah but I'll jump clone! Nope. 24 hour CD. I just do not understand what is so horrible about having a newbie in your mighty 0.0 fleet. Oh, I see, I will negatively impact your shiny efficiency rating due to frequently dying from lack of skills that I can not do anything about but keep training and lack of skill in general because I'm new. I have referred 5 people to this game now but I tell all of them. "Sign up, pay your fee, do the tutorial and career missions then quit for the next 6 months except to log in and refresh your training que because no one wants you expect to mine for them" Of course none of them listened. Now? 3 have quit and 2 are doing the same thing I am. Thus the point of view of a handful of newbies. EvE will be fun...one day. |

DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:04:00 -
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TLDR |

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
495
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:09:00 -
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faction warfare is great for frigate / cruiser combat. mostly frigates.
join the militia and find a corp while there.
red vs. blue is great too if they're still around.
Recruitment channel is the worst place to find a corporation.
Don't give up, what you seek is out there. and it's as much fun as you imagine it could be. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

cowdensno1 lee
Hartmann Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:17:00 -
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What times are you on mate? Im about a month in and could use a wee bit company doing missions And seriously, some older guys take this way too serious and treat new guys like skivys and slaves. It scares away new players. New players keep eve alive. No new players? No eve in short order. But of course if you have played 2yrs 3mths for example youve earned that 'right' See you in space :D |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:20:00 -
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DRGaius Baltar wrote:TLDR
I apologize profusely for testing the limitations of your gnat like attention span.  |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:21:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:faction warfare is great for frigate / cruiser combat. mostly frigates.
join the militia and find a corp while there.
red vs. blue is great too if they're still around.
Recruitment channel is the worst place to find a corporation.
Don't give up, what you seek is out there. and it's as much fun as you imagine it could be.
This was inspiring I figured I would get slammed by trolls and people yelling at me to get off their lawn lol. |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:21:00 -
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cowdensno1 lee wrote:What times are you on mate? Im about a month in and could use a wee bit company doing missions And seriously, some older guys take this way too serious and treat new guys like skivys and slaves. It scares away new players. New players keep eve alive. No new players? No eve in short order. But of course if you have played 2yrs 3mths for example youve earned that 'right' See you in space :D
I usually on since I work from home. As a result I tend to keep the client logged in a good chunk of the day. |

Sevastian Liao
DreamWeaver Inc.
80
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:22:00 -
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The tone of your post doesn't really come across as "just laying down your experiences", but ok.
Your experience sounds like it comes down to "Can't find the right group of guys to fly with". Joining the wrong type of corporation in the first case, and relying too much on the recruitment channel in the second. I've taken a look in the channel - and it's reminiscent of a cesspool, you're not going to find the people of your choice there. Try settling into / solo flying around in lowsec/nullsec/wormhole space for a bit, chat up the locals, introduce yourself, get to know them. The type of guys you're trying to fly with generally won't be the type to advertise all over the forums and the recruitment channel. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
803
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:24:00 -
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Fenris Purvanen wrote:Interesting point of view
However, I can safely tell you you got no luck on your first corp/alliance, that happened and still happens to everyone around. You can't assume all your corp/alliance experiences will be the same just because the recruitment tool lead you to "x" or "y" whatever corp/alliance that is no good.
Newbbies are awesome in fleets, you put a couple of those with more experienced players camping the gates while the large group is doing stuff and newbbies will die a lot but they'll do tons of important stuff, PIN DOW the pesky badies !! They don't need to make bazillion isk a month so taxes get in, they need to learn the game first and this means help them get the bases of pvp, give them free frigates so they can die again and again and again and still come back to the fight "x" jumps away.
Often those newbies get nice rewards from FC's or players because they did a good job, it's so dam fun to get newbies in your fleet (the moment they learn to listen and stop blahblahing all the time). Some bad corp/alliance doesn't like them or can't make them play and get the game I'd say it's nice !! -they're creating their own future enemies and I WILL help them get their revenge at some point, some isk and motivation: think how hard you will kick them in the nuts when you'll pin down one of their caps worth billions isk, sweet revenge is sweet.l *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Lexmana
968
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:26:00 -
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Militia is where you should go. Frigs and destroyers are the most used ship there. |

Psychotic Monk
NEMESIS INCORPORATED
1271
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:30:00 -
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I'm sorry to hear that, dude. Keep your chin up. There are good outfits out there, they're just hard to find. [url]http://belligerentundesirables.com/[/url] |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:33:00 -
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Fenris Purvanen wrote:I knew that I couldn't do much to help in a big 0.0 fleet brawl ( zero actually) so I figured to get into 0.0, make money, and have a place I could get to know people I should go miner to start. So I used the corp finder, tracked down the biggest 0.0 mining corp I could, app'd and zoomed off to null in my little venture. Big mistake. I made the assumption that I would have the opportunity to at least tag along on fleet ops from time to time in my little tackle Rifter. Could I save the day? Hardly. Could I so SOMETHING? Maybe. The reality of the that assumption would be summed up to me quite clearly in short order. Not welcome. I showed up at every CTA and posted roam in my little Rifter only to be sent packing by the FC. Cant fly a Battleship? Go home.
EQII and WoW heroic raid guild mentality. Sure join our guild, but if you want to raid with us come skilled and geared. 
That reminder in EvE is upsetting.
"Oh, oh...you can get in a dessie in a day and fly roams!!!"
And waste time dying without the support skills. And being new, don't have the side income to support getting 2mil ships like candy, because as a newb you are cannon fodder (the corps that do accept newbies, don't tend to have ship replacements even on fleet roams, so until you get over 5mil in SP, you're SoL -- and that's IF they trust you enough to offer one). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1929
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:34:00 -
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Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
256
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:39:00 -
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Here's a little secret: eve isn't that difficult to play, as long as you do your research and account for risks. Since you're already doing that, you are 100% solo capable right now. Instead of playing on their terms, play on your own. Join faction warfare and fight in frigates. Or use your knowledge you gained from ferrying bpcs through a warzone to do exploration. Or hauling to null hubs in NPC sov space. Regardless, stop trying to play the corp game. Everyone I see burn out does so because they're playing someone else's game. You did fine by yourself...why do you need them?
Plus the characters and stories you make wandering solo are hilarious. I was down in red alliance space trying the new exploration sites, and me and another explorer wounds up in the same site. He had a roaming PvP fleet two jumps out. I got talking and someone got friendly in the span of 2 minutes so he didn't gank me despite having 500 mil in my cargo hold. I repaid him by teaching him the nuances of the system, and hacking the can for him since my skills were better. We split the loot.
That isn't even that uncommon. I make friends(and enemies) constantly in null and lowsec, either through good fights in faction warfare, or just hilarious happenstance or the amusing conflict of interest. Either way, solo does NOT mean solitary. You still need to be very social to make the most of things, be it networking with the locals, setting up ad hoc agreements over an exploration site, or attempting to trade Intel with those you cross paths with.
Highsec is exempt from the solo rule unless you're a social miner, ninja, pirate, or merc. Most pve content in high sec is just boring, and you'll never cross paths with another player. No conflict or cooperation. Unless you're powergaming in industry or actively in the corp building business, you will get bored in high sec.
Edit: I'm about to go to bed, but contact me tomorrow. I don't really fly with others unless I'm in the area, as I move around constantly, but I would be more than happy to provide some advice on some of the less well documented sides of eve. I like snatching new players up before they get sucked into the morass of the blob mentality. There are good corps out there, but they're far and few. Anyways, you sound like a promising soloist so hit me up. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:44:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:I'm sorry to hear that, dude. Keep your chin up. There are good outfits out there, they're just hard to find.
Thanks Monk. I actually JUST saw you talking in the recruitment channel like 30 seconds ago. You always say your looking for a "guild" and its funny watching all the feathers get ruffled. They rush to call you a noob and then look at the name and ....... |

Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
256
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:45:00 -
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Fenris Purvanen wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:I'm sorry to hear that, dude. Keep your chin up. There are good outfits out there, they're just hard to find. Thanks Monk. I actually JUST saw you talking in the recruitment channel like 30 seconds ago. You always say your looking for a "guild" and its funny watching all the feathers get ruffled. They rush to call you a noob and then look at the name and .......
Psychotic monk is good people. His reputation precedes him. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:46:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please.
They were not bad guys and ran a successful outfit, it just was not for me. They were never assholes to me, we just did not see eye to eye. |

cowdensno1 lee
Hartmann Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:47:00 -
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Im in Osmeden (0.7). im usually on 5-10ish GMT mon to friday. Im doing mostly security missions at level III for now Look me up if your interested :D
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Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:49:00 -
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I will just say that you had bad luck going into null. It sounds like you didn't join a particularly newbie friendly organisation (which makes me wonder why they recruited you in the first place) that was quite bad to top it off. Also, joining while getting invaded by PL is pretty much the worst time possible. Not all null alliances are like that however, some of them offer plenty of support for their newbies.
That said, I second the FW suggestion. Plenty of small gang cruiser sized warfare, good isk to be made even by a newer player, no do or die CTAs. |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:55:00 -
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Cass Lie wrote:I will just say that you had bad luck going into null. It sounds like you didn't join a particularly newbie friendly organisation (which makes me wonder why they recruited you in the first place) that was quite bad to top it off. Also, joining while getting invaded by PL is pretty much the worst time possible. Not all null alliances are like that however, some of them offer plenty of support for their newbies.
That said, I second the FW suggestion. Plenty of small gang cruiser sized warfare, good isk to be made even by a newer player, no do or die CTAs.
Probably.
My problem with FW as I understand it is that 1. I WILL die thus loosing my implants yet again and more importantly 2. I will loose faction standings with other empires to the point I will get blown up even attempting to leave Caldari space. Maybe I'm wrong? |

Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
256
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:00:00 -
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It takes a long time to get banned from a region through fw. Also implant loss is exceedingly rare. All my implant losses in few were because of lag or stupidity, and that's only like 2 poddings in 3 years of living in lowsec. Either way, its the sort of thing you can back out of at any time. Set your own schedule, play how you want. It opens doors, not closes them. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:08:00 -
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Fenris Purvanen wrote:Cass Lie wrote:I will just say that you had bad luck going into null. It sounds like you didn't join a particularly newbie friendly organisation (which makes me wonder why they recruited you in the first place) that was quite bad to top it off. Also, joining while getting invaded by PL is pretty much the worst time possible. Not all null alliances are like that however, some of them offer plenty of support for their newbies.
That said, I second the FW suggestion. Plenty of small gang cruiser sized warfare, good isk to be made even by a newer player, no do or die CTAs. Probably. My problem with FW as I understand it is that 1. I WILL die thus loosing my implants yet again and more importantly 2. I will loose faction standings with other empires to the point I will get blown up even attempting to leave Caldari space. Maybe I'm wrong?
You know about jump clones? (Use one with no or cheap implants, besides, FW is lowsec, and you don't lose your capsule that often in lowsec - no bubbles).
You will lose some faction standing, so if that is a big issue, I'd suggest joining ...
- RvB. They sound right up your alley. All they care about is a lot of good fights, they are very newbie friendly, as long as the newbie wants to learn and fly spaceships - which you seem to do. (RvB = Red vs Blue. two highsec corps in perpetual war, when threatened by third parties, they join up = Purple and beat the crap out of them)
- Brave Newbies They do not care about anything but losing their spaceships and killing others while doing so. (recruitment video)
- If you want a more thorough and methodical approach, the traditional way would be Eve University. They hold classes, have a lowsec camp where you can get your hands dirty or you join their fleets for an introduction to big fleets (I prefer their lowsec approach over their blob fleets though). You can learn a lot from their wiki and esp. their class library even if you aren't a member.
Have fun, you do have the right attitude and I think with all of the three above, you'll be around for a long while. |

Fenris Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:31:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Fenris Purvanen wrote:Interesting point of view However, I can safely tell you you got no luck on your first corp/alliance, that happened and still happens to everyone around. You can't assume all your corp/alliance experiences will be the same just because the recruitment tool lead you to "x" or "y" whatever corp/alliance that is no good. Newbbies are awesome in fleets, you put a couple of those with more experienced players camping the gates while the large group is doing stuff and newbbies will die a lot but they'll do tons of important stuff, PIN DOW the pesky badies !! They don't need to make bazillion isk a month so taxes get in, they need to learn the game first and this means help them get the bases of pvp, give them free frigates so they can die again and again and again and still come back to the fight "x" jumps away. Often those newbies get nice rewards from FC's or players because they did a good job, it's so dam fun to get newbies in your fleet (the moment they learn to listen and stop blahblahing all the time). Some bad corp/alliance doesn't like them or can't make them play and get the game I'd say it's nice !! -they're creating their own future enemies and I WILL help them get their revenge at some point, some isk and motivation: think how hard you will kick them in the nuts when you'll pin down one of their caps worth billions isk, sweet revenge is sweet.l
Lol now where were YOU when I was corp hunting.
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
97
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:32:00 -
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You're out there. That's a good thing.
Don't take **** from anyone. If they tell you you can't join ops as low skill as a ******* gate camp and make you mine instead, tell them to go **** themselves. I would. |

Amitious Turkey
The Red Circle Inc.
118
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:36:00 -
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Sevastian Liao wrote:The tone of your post doesn't really come across as "just laying down your experiences", but ok.
Your experience sounds like it comes down to "Can't find the right group of guys to fly with". Joining the wrong type of corporation in the first case, and relying too much on the recruitment channel in the second. I've taken a look in the channel - and it's reminiscent of a cesspool, you're not going to find the people of your choice there. Try settling into / solo flying around in lowsec/nullsec/wormhole space for a bit, chat up the locals, introduce yourself, get to know them. The type of guys you're trying to fly with generally won't be the type to advertise all over the forums and the recruitment channel.
Oh, you might get still blown up a couple times in the process though. So that's probably not going to change. Some of them might actually invite you to join them only after your ship/pod's a smoking wreck.
This tbh. I only found the guys I'm currently flying with after time spent flying in wormholes. Spent a whole month living by myself in a C2 in only a Typhoon, it was great. Since I couldn't find the right guys to fly with (until now), I decided to forge my own path, and ended up with guys with similar interests. I once scared a newb spitless by er...sneaking up to him and bumping him. I was in an uncloaked drake from 50 km away. Admittedly, I had disguised myself by naming my ship after a planet in system. I then provided useful links to wormhole exploration and dscan/overview stuff to show what he did wrong. Since he took it well, I invited him to explore whenever he wanted another guy to watch his back. I would have done the same to that Tornado I caught mining in that C2 I lived in, but...he never gave me the chance
I have been on the other end of the barrel as well, when I was a newb. Can flipping. Oh, joy. But the guys were polite and showed me what I had done wrong. It's something we've all gone through...it's a sort of initiation.
I will agree that the SP req is ridiculous for a certain number of corps out there, but they usually do that because they're looking for dedicated players and the easiest way to tell is by the SP amount (at least on the surface). Some, like my corp, want to ensure that you can participate in the fun stuff-- that's why they require you to be able to fly at least a t3 for example (exceptions exist because we sometimes find people we like and are sure will benefit our fun).
I'd like to do fun stuff with newbies, but sometimes that simply can't happen. This is changing, however, like with the changes in scanning and probes. Just today I got to spend time ninja mining with a friend. I have 800k sp on him (and I was playing my alt), but we could still engage in ninja mining together in wormholes. All because CCP changed the system and the skills, woohoo! (I could have done the same with Amitious, my main, but he is stuck deep in wh space atm)
On another note... Sometimes people will tell you not to undock and engage because the corp can't take the losses in a lengthy or committed engagement. Other times (and this might be more applicable in your case) it may be because the war they're fighting is an unwilling war and more losses encourages the other side to continually wardec you, preventing you from access to hisec trade hubs. TRECI (my corp) has been involved in that sort of thing before. As much as we want to pew, our pew would be much less fun if we had no way to replace our ships!
I'd highly encourage you to check out Eve University. Once you're finished with them, the smart corps will want you. TRECI has taken UNI grads (I think about 70% of our number is UNI grads actually), and we teach classes on wormhole dwelling and such as well. I think we've even done field trips for curious newbies 
Moneta Curran wrote:You're out there. That's a good thing.
Don't take **** from anyone. If they tell you you can't join ops as low skill as a ******* gate camp and make you mine instead, tell them to go **** themselves. I would.
And this. Truth. I like to lick things.
Haunting the forums since 03. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1931
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:54:00 -
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Fenris Purvanen wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. They were not bad guys and ran a successful outfit, it just was not for me. They were never assholes to me, we just did not see eye to eye. Their corp policy is to actively discourage new players from trying out anything fun or different other than mining and cowering in a station from hostiles. They've pushed you, and doubtless other recruits, from 'excited wide-eyed newbie' to 'bored of Eve and reconsidering their subscription'. They are, in their petty and selfish attitudes, actively damaging the game by driving away the lifeblood of new players by making them think that Eve is a game about F1'ing a rock whilst AFK and running away whenever other players show up.
They may not have called you names or blown up your ship, but that doesn't mean they don't suck. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
295
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Posted - 2013.06.08 19:19:00 -
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Red VS Blue sounds perfect for you. Pure pvp day in and day out. No politics, just pew pew. They don't teach you how to pvp, but you learn the ropes very quick and are sure to find someone who wouldn't mind taking some time off and helping you out. No need to worry about podding in RvB, as it is not allowed. They run fleets almost all day and a hero rifter is always welcome. Just keep your head held high, your hand on your F1 key, and make sh!t go boom.
Edit: they also have a "noob fleet" program in which they gather as many newbros as possible and hold special little events for them with awesome rewards (faction frigates, ship packages, etc...) I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |

Haulie Berry
992
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Posted - 2013.06.08 19:36:00 -
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Yup, you found yourself in a ****** alliance. It happens.
You probably could have avoided a lot of frustration if you had just come to the forum sooner. Definitely check out faction war, Brave Newbies, Red Vs Blue, etc.
Also, don't pay too much attention to SP requirements in corp recruitment. It's very common that they are not a hard and fast rule, and many corps will waive that requirement for a new player with a good attitude. |

Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
259
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:13:00 -
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Seriously who were these guys? I need names. They need a good hard dickslapping. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
364
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:17:00 -
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First off - I love motivated newbies. Having FW experience I think that's the best entry point for a PvP interested player. It allows you to get small gang fights in small ship classes while offering a way to generate significant income that's very newbie friendly.
Speaking from said experience I say that attitude is far more important than SP or EVE-Experience. The later two will come on their own if the attitude is there, but neither time spent in the game nor SP grow attitude. Willingness to light **** on fire, ability to deal with setbacks and the eagerness to improve yourself and help your fellow corp/alliancemates is most important. In the proper outfit, it will get reciprocated. We are, for example, requiring a newbie to spend about 2-3 days of training before putting the into our AK-47 style condors the alliance provides, and bang - they're fit for action.
When hunting for a corp I think you should look at your interests, and not just the best way to get there. If you're into industry, pve or pvp first is most important.
Having said that, I wish you good luck with hunting for a corp. :) Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
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