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ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 2575	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:14:00 - [31] - Quote OP... hop into a jump clone and blitz into low-sec. Yes... you'll train slower (like... 10, 15% slower) but it's better than being afraid and you'll gain good experience from it. And with that experience you gain you'll learn how to get your pod out when you lose your ships... and then you can go back to using your implants again full time. I personally fly around low-sec with a billion ISK implant set in my head. Haven't lost it in about a year. As for skillpoint restrictions when apply for corps... ignore it. They're there to scare off the general rabble. If you talk to a recruiter, diplomat, director, CEO, etc. and show that you have a good working foundation of EVE's mechanics and a good mentality... you'll be accepted without much fuss. Those that DO turn you away based on skillpoint restrictions are corps you didn't want to join anyways. As for the FC that kicked you away from a fleet-op because you couldn't fly a battleship... he was an idiot. Every ship counts... even a newbie's frigate. Hell... you could have been more useful than those battleships when sitting on gates. You can catch the odd cruiser or destroyer that passes by while they can't. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
Demica Diaz The Scope Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:21:00 - [32] - Quote Good read OP, it seems you have bigger balls than your 0.0 corp haha. I hope you find your place in EVE, dont give up and never take **** from anyone. This is game after all, ignore those EVE mongoloids who think its real life simulator.
Rexxorr Zero Corp Tax 38	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:32:00 - [33] - Quote Red VS Blue, sounds like thats the place you want to be, they are in a constant state of war, fly cheap ships and take most anyone willing to undock for a fight. They don't pod each other as a general rule. Good Luck
Silivar Karkun Electronic Research Team Ing 34	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:33:00 - [34] - Quote for the OP, i know that feel bro, first time i got in the game joined a corp for Red Alliance, bad decision, while i have respect for the russians, my corp was as boring as what you describe, neutral in local?, docked all day, mining?, lol nope, go kill x rats until you have enough money to pay a bigger ship with better modules. y preferred to start anew with this account and stay in high sec, i learned a lot from this game since then, planning to leave empire space someday, when CCP make it worth it.
Thur Khagah Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:43:00 - [35] - Quote First of all, welcome to EvE. That Universe needs new players like you i think, people who are willing to go out there, learn, ask the right questions, and aren't afraid to loose a few ships to have fun. So don't you dare to give up yet, there is still hope. Forget about the big 0.0 Alliances for the moment, what you need is a quick fix of fun, and a demonstration of the possibility EvE holds for a promising young Pilot like you. So, several people already suggested FW and RvB to you, and i really think that's just the right thing for you to do right now. That doesn't even say you have to stop watching for a corp that recruits, you can for example drop out of RvB whenever you feel like. And until then you don't sit on a station, watch the channels and be bored, you're out there, flying your rifter with and against others, hunt the alone or in groups, watch your inexpensive little frigs go up in flames again and again, but you'll have fun. Really, in my opinion there is no downside for you in going out there and try it.
Amarra Mandalin Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 576	Posted - 2013.06.09 01:22:00 - [36] - Quote You're letting your implants ruin your fun. I know, it was liberating to run w/o them myself for a time when smartbombing BSes and caps were a problem in my area. But you're least likely to lose them in RvB as there is a no podding policy and unless you just sit there and someone makes a mistake, it shouldn't happen. And people have explained jump clones...and all you need is a couple +3s. I don't understand why you don't want to run your level 4s if Isk is a problem, but whatever, as long as you have self-sufficiency covered. Otherwise, there are other corps that would take you that you may like, be it Null or FW or otherwise, but obtaining a solid basic PvP foundation will minimize your losses and increase your chances for success and accommodate your implant concerns.
Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 608	Posted - 2013.06.09 01:53:00 - [37] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. This. You don't owe them anything. They suck and have no business outside of highsec. Post their name here so that others may avoid the waste of time that you experienced. CVA isn't hard to infiltrate, ere I mean join. In game CVA-diplo chat channel. Brave newbies is a great outfit for new guys. Test and Goons have awesome intro programs but you have to join through their oog forums, Reddit, and Something awful respectively. Eve university is also excellent, they have a long interview process but really its worth it. You have fallen prey to carebears, fear not, it is easily remedied. And you will feel much better after having ganked a few dozen of them. I think I'm heading back to Youtube for a while -á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7eWSo9GV70
Psychotic Monk NEMESIS INCORPORATED 1274	Posted - 2013.06.09 01:59:00 - [38] - Quote They don't have business inside highsec either. [url]http://belligerentundesirables.com/[/url]
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 240	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:00:00 - [39] - Quote Fenris Purvanen wrote: DRGaius Baltar wrote: TLDR I apologize profusely for testing the limitations of your gnat like attention span. Well you have shittalking at level 5 I see so you'll do ok.
Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 608	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:04:00 - [40] - Quote Psychotic Monk wrote: They don't have business inside highsec either. Target I think I'm heading back to Youtube for a while -á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7eWSo9GV70
Zappity Kurved Space 115	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:05:00 - [41] - Quote Fenris Purvanen wrote: Cass Lie wrote: I will just say that you had bad luck going into null. It sounds like you didn't join a particularly newbie friendly organisation (which makes me wonder why they recruited you in the first place) that was quite bad to top it off. Also, joining while getting invaded by PL is pretty much the worst time possible. Not all null alliances are like that however, some of them offer plenty of support for their newbies. That said, I second the FW suggestion. Plenty of small gang cruiser sized warfare, good isk to be made even by a newer player, no do or die CTAs. Probably. My problem with FW as I understand it is that 1. I WILL die thus loosing my implants yet again and more importantly 2. I will loose faction standings with other empires to the point I will get blown up even attempting to leave Caldari space. Maybe I'm wrong? FW lowsec regions are the answer. Pirate if you can afford it (more targets) or join FW if you can't (good isk). About losing your pod: this is lowsec so unless you travel in your pod and run into a smart bombing ship your pod losses should be rare. You will lose your T1 frig or dessie a lot but just make sure you align when you hit structure and spam Warp To. No bubbles to ruin your day. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Silivar Karkun Electronic Research Team Ing 35	Posted - 2013.06.09 03:31:00 - [42] - Quote going a bit intromissive with the OP but people have asked to know which corp was (im prepared for getting flamed). this was the corp acording to its employment history: Mordu's Military Industrial Command and it belonged to the following alliance: Circle-Of-Two
darmwand Repo. 134	Posted - 2013.06.09 04:19:00 - [43] - Quote As pretty much everyone else has already said, don't let people tell you what you or cannot do. This is a game and it should be about fun, not about pleasing your alliance leadership. If ISK is really an issue then I would strongly recommend FW. I'm not personally doing that but I hear the ISK is pretty good plus when you sit in those plexes PvP will find you. At first you will lose a bunch of ships but the ISK from running the plexes should easily cover the losses. Just don't fit warp core stabs or I'll personally come over there and hunt your capsule On the other hand, if you have some means to make ISK you may want to try solo / small gang piracy in low-sec. You get to roam around and shoot anything that moves (well, mostly). As long as you can fly a frigate, shoot at things and are willing to learn you should have no trouble finding a good corp to help you get started. darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN
Fenris Purvanen Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 26	Posted - 2013.06.09 05:47:00 - [44] - Quote I wanted to thank you all. When I wrote the OP I was expecting to get hammered by trolls. Instead I got a lot of support. Im going to wait another couple weeks to finish some long haul trains and look into RvB and null FW and once I loose my implants oh well. Due to being new and making some poor skilling choices in a hope of being able to fly with the fleet of my original alliance I way over stretched my self. So now I'm going back and really pouring it into support skills. I made an alt too so I can pursue multiple options at once. So if anyone finds themselves in need of a T2 fit interceptor of AF or even an Interdictor...drop me a line. For now, I'm out prowling low sec in a little hookbill looking for my first kill.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 661	Posted - 2013.06.09 06:19:00 - [45] - Quote Many people will be helpful on the forums when its a new player asking for help, and your post did not really come across as whining or similar, more frustrated and i think many can relate to how you were feeling. I know you said in your last post you are interested in rejoining your old alliance, but if you change your mind i would advice you to read over this thread (also a wall of text ), since it might guide you and help you avoid ending up in a similar situation in the future. Good luck and happy to see your sticking around even if you had a rough start Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
rswfire Firesworn Firesworn Nation 110	Posted - 2013.06.09 06:44:00 - [46] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: thread (also a wall of text ) That is a good thread. I've read it before. Thank you for writing it. To the OP, I hope things better for you soon. Your story saddens me. You were used. Not even seen as a human being. I think that sucks. You deserve better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
Garresh Team Chicken and Waffles 264	Posted - 2013.06.09 08:05:00 - [47] - Quote Eve players are many things, but we're pretty protective of our newbs if they've got the right mindset. Especially when they're being taught wrong by people who fail at eve. Make your own path. Answer to no one.(but don't be afraid to ask more experienced players for pointers) This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 804	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:07:00 - [48] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. This!! OP They do not deserve to be in Null sec or whatever other place in Eve. Those deserve to get perma camp/wardec and get the crap out out of them. As for you request about corp/alliance names, just take a close look at your thread you'll see a lot of those newbie friendly corp/alliances even if most of our gaming time we kick each others ass, but heh, it's where the fun is in Eve. Time for revenge dear noobie, set your goals do your researches (takes some dedication and thinking) make your choice and go for it, if don't succeed or find the one that sticks to your goals asap don't bother, it's ok, just gives you more targets to asskick later, restart until you feel "home" and at that point you'll already have one of the best assets in Eve:lots of jerks to kill removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Fenris Purvanen Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 30	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:11:00 - [49] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: I know you said in your last post you are interested in rejoining your old alliance I whaaaaatttt.... Im pretty sure a misread or mistype has happened here as I would not rejoin if you held a gun to my head. The article was nice though
Fenris Purvanen Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 30	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:15:00 - [50] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Scatim Helicon wrote: Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. This!! OP They do not deserve to be in Null sec or whatever other place in Eve. Those deserve to get perma camp/wardec and get the crap out out of them. As for you request about corp/alliance names, just take a close look at your thread you'll see a lot of those newbie friendly corp/alliances even if most of our gaming time we kick each others ass, but heh, it's where the fun is in Eve. Time for revenge dear newbie, set your goals do your researches (takes some dedication and thinking) make your choice and go for it, if don't succeed or find the one that sticks to your goals asap don't bother, it's ok, just gives you more targets to asskick later, restart until you feel "home" and at that point you'll already have one of the best assets in Eve:lots of jerks to kill Lol I thought about it for a bit but realized that there were plenty of people (admittedly a bit drone like, even on voice chat lol) that the quotas and such worked for. I am just not one of them. They answered my questions when I did have them and didn't do anything horrible to me. It was just a system and setup I was not compatible with on any level.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 215	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:18:00 - [51] - Quote People have said this before, but your old corp were mentally handicapped. Someone suggested RvB, they are epic. Brave Newbies is also epic. Here is a tip for you though. Implants are awesome, yes. But if you are too scared of losing them then you get to the point where you might as well be playing EVE just for the skills. Or just paying for a year of the game before you actually play. The first thing, though. You made a good choice asking about this on the forums rather than just ragequitting. Whatever else EVE might be, you can usually find people willing to give you the right advice. Secondly, stick to it. Third, there are plenty of wimps out there. Once you find the right kind of people, don't get sucked back in with the wussies. Play the game the way that it's fun. Getting obsessed with sustaining no losses is the path to losing without even playing. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Gordon Esil Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload 31	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:24:00 - [52] - Quote FW would be nice thing for you Many newbie friendly corps there, you can join, or just sit solo there blowing up your ships and see how it goes for you
Xeraphi The Gun Runners 24	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:22:00 - [53] - Quote Fenris Purvanen wrote: My problem with FW as I understand it is that 1. I WILL die thus loosing my implants yet again and more importantly 2. I will loose faction standings with other empires to the point I will get blown up even attempting to leave Caldari space. Maybe I'm wrong? You WILL lose your ship but not every time will you get podkilled if you're smart and keep dotlan open. Most of the time in low sec you will be able to save your implants if you align and hammer the "warp to" button on your keyboard so hard the letter flakes off. As long as you're making the isk to replace those implants it's not so bad losing them to a smartbomb every once in a while. So then the only worry is faction standings. You can roam allied space also not just Caldari. Check out my corp if you're interested in grouping for highsec missions and incursions (boring missions are a LOT more fun with others) with a bit of lowsec pvp roaming thrown in. Think they'd love to have another pvper along, and they took me in as a noob. Actually Slick locked me and tried to ransom and when I said "what isk? hahaha like I have isk xD" he offered his corp and tons of advice. xD Otherwise, I hear good things about BNI, RvB and E-UNI constantly.
Zimmy Zeta Red Federation RvB - Red Federation 22298	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:27:00 - [54] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Fenris Purvanen wrote: Scatim Helicon wrote: Your old corp sucks. Name and shame please. They were not bad guys and ran a successful outfit, it just was not for me. They were never assholes to me, we just did not see eye to eye. Their corp policy is to actively discourage new players from trying out anything fun or different other than mining and cowering in a station from hostiles. They've pushed you, and doubtless other recruits, from 'excited wide-eyed newbie' to 'bored of Eve and reconsidering their subscription'. They are, in their petty and selfish attitudes, actively damaging the game by driving away the lifeblood of new players by making them think that Eve is a game about F1'ing a rock whilst AFK and running away whenever other players show up. They may not have called you names or blown up your ship, but that doesn't mean they don't suck. This. Also I feel sorry for you, OP, since most of the new players (myself included) made similar experiences, i.e. joining a corp that cares more about f*cking killboard efficiency than for it's new members. Those corps are bad corps, led by bad people. No Stockholm syndrome, please- your corp was bad and it deserves to be wiped off the face of the galaxy. Keeping newbies from playing the game is maybe the single most harmful thing corps can do to Eve, since without new players, this game will eventually die. For future reference, if a corp tells your either to stay docked or "you can't do X, you are too young" you have two choices: 1. Leave the corp immediately. 2. Steal everything you can, kill as many barges and industrials as time permits and then leave the corp. Someone suggested RvB for you, and it is surely a lot better than everything you have experienced so far while living among those douchebags. But there are several thing to consider: you will need money for ships- even if you only fly T1 frigs, it can get a little difficult for a newbie without any means to make money. Should you still wish to join, know that you are welcome, write me a short mail after joining and I will give you a moderate amount of isk that will help you getting started. Although we have a no-podding rule, please note that accidents do happen and also we often have third-party war targets that will definitely go for your pod, so while implants are fine, I would advise against anything stupidly expensive. LAst, RvB is awesome because it is full of nullsec and lowsec alts who just want to have some laid back pewpew. If you want to join a lowsec or nullsec corp later, this is one of the best places to make contacts to the better ones. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse
Galen Darksmith Sky Fighters Mass Overload 0	Posted - 2013.06.09 12:26:00 - [55] - Quote Garresh wrote: Seriously who were these guys? I need names. They need a good hard dickslapping. Mordu's Military Industrial Command [MOMIC] Member of Circle-Of-Two [CO2] It's his first corp out of the gate. OP, sorry you had to deal with that nonsense. There ARE nullsec alliances out there that actually flythings that newbies fly. And, like many other have suggested, EVE Uni, RvB, and FW are all viable options for you at this point. I prefer wormhole space myself, but you might want to get comfortable with PvP in general before you PvP in a wormhole. Don't let some random nullbears ruin EVE for you.
Orpheus Sin Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.06.09 13:50:00 - [56] - Quote I don't have a new suggestion exactly. Just wanted to to say keep at it. Once you find your niche, you will have a blast.
Erotica 1 Krypteia Operations 250	Posted - 2013.06.09 14:27:00 - [57] - Quote OP, I suggest you speak with Monk or me in game. I have a feeling we can help you find your path. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did.
Fenris Purvanen Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.06.09 14:47:00 - [58] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: OP, I suggest you speak with Monk or me in game. I have a feeling we can help you find your path. ...Your the ISK doubler from Jita! I have seen you. Im pretty sure now that I think of it I blocked you too since I block all scammers/doublers/etc as a general rule. I will drop you a chat anyway though, but no iskies for you! jealously guards his small pile of hard won iskies
Gordon Esil Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload 31	Posted - 2013.06.09 14:55:00 - [59] - Quote Dude, just find an FW corp who is willing to take any chars with any SP amount and do your thing there! After 1 or 2 months you will be completely on your own, I've been there before, I know what is it like
Bimbi Norris Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.06.09 15:57:00 - [60] - Quote Talk to your leadership, whinging about it on the forums will get you knowhere fast, if all you can fly is a rifter, ** the implants off and get into rvb or a lowsec corp to learn how to pvp so your not a complete knob. Even then you might be ** at pvp like me XD

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