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Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:25:00 -
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So I'm going the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc.
I've made it to the final push. Dagan. Tough guy, but I'm getting him down faster than he is me. Someone in local asks if he can help fight Dagan as he needs to as well. I figure sure, Fleet up. Like any other game, we'll join a party and complete a mission together, proving that Teamwork is a good thing.
Oh how I was wrong. So we beat the guy. We're all cheering. Looking around the Wreck for Dagan. I guess he took it, only explanation. So, I'm looking around, can't find my Dagan.
25 minute-ish fight.
I ask in help "Only one Dagan, you gotta re-do the mission."
What the **** EVE? Seriously? I get that this is Sandbox, but it makes no sense as I just re-do the mission and Dagan is back there again...so it's not like it's breaking up the feeling of a world.
So, I was beating Dagan. Another noob, we're both noobs, needed help, so he warped into my fight and we win. But only one if us gets a reward. Only one person gets credit.
Terrible design. It promotes solo play and punishes party play. We all work together to do this tough mission, and only ONE guy gets the reward, despite all of us having it and doing our fair share? So we have to run it again, for each person?
Christ EVE. Sandbox, Themepark, MMO, not MMO. It's basic ******* design! Everyone gets rewarded for their part.
And not like I can re-run it with the guy - as servers come down right as we finish pretty much. I can't even believe it. It seems totally absurd any missions system could be designed in such a way as to try to make you not want to party. A mission system that is designed to allow people to troll and steal mission critical items they probably don't need. So Public Groups are completely eliminated.
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/Cue the "Go back to WoW" comments. |
Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
32
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:29:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:So I'm going the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc.
I've made it to the final push. Dagan. Tough guy, but I'm getting him down faster than he is me. Someone in local asks if he can help fight Dagan as he needs to as well. I figure sure, Fleet up. Like any other game, we'll join a party and complete a mission together, proving that Teamwork is a good thing.
Oh how I was wrong. So we beat the guy. We're all cheering. Looking around the Wreck for Dagan. I guess he took it, only explanation. So, I'm looking around, can't find my Dagan.
25 minute-ish fight.
I ask in help "Only one Dagan, you gotta re-do the mission."
What the **** EVE? Seriously? I get that this is Sandbox, but it makes no sense as I just re-do the mission and Dagan is back there again...so it's not like it's breaking up the feeling of a world.
So, I was beating Dagan. Another noob, we're both noobs, needed help, so he warped into my fight and we win. But only one if us gets a reward. Only one person gets credit.
Terrible design. It promotes solo play and punishes party play. We all work together to do this tough mission, and only ONE guy gets the reward, despite all of us having it and doing our fair share? So we have to run it again, for each person?
Christ EVE. Sandbox, Themepark, MMO, not MMO. It's basic ******* design! Everyone gets rewarded for their part.
And not like I can re-run it with the guy - as servers come down right as we finish pretty much. I can't even believe it. It seems totally absurd any missions system could be designed in such a way as to try to make you not want to party. A mission system that is designed to allow people to troll and steal mission critical items they probably don't need. So Public Groups are completely eliminated.
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/Cue the "Go back to WoW" comments.
It's not bad game design.
It's YOU thinking that EVE works like any other MMO.
And it's not likely he was a newb...more likely an alt with the only purpose of making you rage like you now do.
Rule 2 of EVE: Trust nobody.
You failed to follow rule 2 and assumed that sharing YOUR mission would mean both of you can finish it.
If you did some research or asked, you would have known that EVE doesn't work like other MMOs where you can fleet up and by killing a single mission pocket you can all finish the mission.
And everybody gets a share of the mission reward if the owner decides, and bounties are always split. However mission key items are NOT shared.
Stop thinking that EVE is like other MMOs. It will help you much more then these whining and raging posts. I, for example, decided this is all the help you will get from me. I like helping new players, but only the ones with the proper attitude.
So stop whining about something that is working as intended. Or go back to one of the other MMOs that do work like you want to. Are you in need of some nice chat? Are you new and want some help? Look no further and join: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:35:00 -
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Oh it gets better. I was just told, and confirmed by a GM, that I can't complete the mission and will need to have the quest line reset because that was "my" Dagan. I can't just re-do it myself.
And yes yes, I get that whole spiel about how "Trust nobody", I don't care if it was an alt.
It's not his fault. It's not mine. It's EVE. It should've spawned one for each of us, as we both had the mission, both helped kill Dagan.
But no. Then people will come here and justify how that's just "EVE" and how it's "Hardcore" , and it's "my fault".
Right. |
Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
818
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:41:00 -
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Missions in Eve don't scale with size of party involved. That's all and if you don't like it just don't do missions, raging about it is a waste of your time. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
698
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:41:00 -
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I can understand your frustration, and it must have been quite surprising to realize that you have to repeat it. Honestly i had never considered it since i have never done any of the arc's my self
But i can also understand why CCP would do it like this. First off the fact that its more difficult means you have to team up. This is a good thing to get used to early in the game since some things are simply easier with a fleet (and some are almost impossible without).
But it also means that you have to be patient! If you are both new players, both doing the same mission, you both should stick around to help the other person. Patience is one of the most important things you need to learn in EVE. If you have no patience, this is not the right game for you.
Third, in some cases someone will "help" you just to run away with the mission objective for the "lulz". This is another very important lesson in EVE. When this happens you have two choices. Be angry about it and quit, or be angry about it and find some way to get payback. If you choose the second option i would advice that you don't go to the forums or similar and say how bad this person is, but note their name and months and years from now you might end up having his corpse in your hangar In EVE you need to have that one person that you just "hate", the first one to "violate" you. Instead of viewing it as a bad thing turn it around and make it one of your reasons to get better, learn and advance.
And while your waiting to archive these things you can either buy the mission objective from contracts (not sure if this one can be sold tho?), ask someone else to help you and hope they wont run off with the objective, or wait a couple of days to get some more SP and kill him your self.
Good luck and welcome to EVE
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Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:43:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:I can understand your frustration, and it must have been quite surprising to realize that you have to repeat it. Honestly i had never considered it since i have never done any of the arc's my self But i can also understand why CCP would do it like this. First off the fact that its more difficult means you have to team up. This is a good thing to get used to early in the game since some things are simply easier with a fleet (and some are almost impossible without). But it also means that you have to be patient! If you are both new players, both doing the same mission, you both should stick around to help the other person. Patience is one of the most important things you need to learn in EVE. If you have no patience, this is not the right game for you. Third, in some cases someone will "help" you just to run away with the mission objective for the "lulz". This is another very important lesson in EVE. When this happens you have two choices. Be angry about it and quit, or be angry about it and find some way to get payback. If you choose the second option i would advice that you don't go to the forums or similar and say how bad this person is, but note their name and months and years from now you might end up having his corpse in your hangar In EVE you need to have that one person that you just "hate", the first one to "violate" you. Instead of viewing it as a bad thing turn it around and make it one of your reasons to get better, learn and advance. And while your waiting to archive these things you can either buy the mission objective from contracts (not sure if this one can be sold tho?), ask someone else to help you and hope they wont run off with the objective, or wait a couple of days to get some more SP and kill him your self. Good luck and welcome to EVE
30M in Contracts and over 19 jumps away. Hardly an option for me. This entire Arc isn't worth even 19M total. So far I've not read an excuse that...excuses such a game mechanic, or a valid reason for why it's a good thing. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5195
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:44:00 -
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So someone fooled you into letting him in your mission and steal the objective, but only the game is at fault for allowing such gameplay to happen in the first place. |
Dror Roidcrusher
Balls of Megacyte In Tea We Trust
29
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:45:00 -
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would it be a proper promotion of 'party play' if I get 10 accounts, shoot a NPC belt battleship rat with all of them and collect 10x the bounty I would get for the same kill solo? |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
699
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:46:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote: 30M in Contracts and over 19 jumps away. Hardly an option for me. This entire Arc isn't worth even 19M total. So far I've not read an excuse that...excuses such a game mechanic, or a valid reason for why it's a good thing.
The reasons (that im guessing on here obviously) is the fact that in a single mission you can learn some of the most important lessons you need to survive in EVE.
Also, added another option in my original post that might suit you better Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
818
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:47:00 -
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Well, since it is how mission system is implemented this is game mechanic. And since you was denied reward Eve's main principle of being "cold harsh universe" was fulfilled. Which is a good thing in and on itself. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
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Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:49:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, since it is how mission system is implemented this is game mechanic. And since you was denied reward Eve's main principle of being "cold harsh universe" was fulfilled. Which is a good thing in and on itself.
Hardly. I don't feel of it as being "Cold and hard"
I feel it's dumb and poorly designed from a mechanics stand point. They are actively discouraging party play in a game that is all about being connected with others.
As for Dror's absurd notion. That wouldn't happen.
Destination. Nobody fooled me. NEither of us knew. Both noobs.
On top of this, how can you keep arguing that it's not a poor mechanic when a Game Master has to come and reset the quest? Cmon now. Don't be stupid here. |
Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
818
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:52:00 -
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Yeah, all that discouragement of teamwork and yet somehow there is thousand corps doing missions in teams exclusively. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:53:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Yeah, all that discouragement of teamwork and yet somehow there is thousand corps doing missions in teams exclusively.
Or so people say. I've seen videos, heard stories. Also seen videos about big foot, and heard stories as well. Doesn't mean bigfoot exists. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
699
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:56:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:
Hardly. I don't feel of it as being "Cold and hard"
I feel it's dumb and poorly designed from a mechanics stand point. They are actively discouraging party play in a game that is all about being connected with others.
As for Dror's absurd notion. That wouldn't happen.
Destination. Nobody fooled me. NEither of us knew. Both noobs.
Yes, you are correct that EVE is based heavily on groups of players working together, BUT its also based around the idea that you can not trust anyone. Even if someone is in your fleet, your alliance, your corp or has been your "best friend for 5 years" they can still turn around and rob you blind. This is an aspect many new players have trouble adapting to (understandably enough) but those that do adapt to it learns to appreciate this. It's one of the core things that makes EVE what it is, cold, harsh and ruthless.
If things were different im sure there are many people that would just leave and never look back, and EVE would have lost one of the things that makes it so unique.
Which is why you now have a choice. The game mechanics wont change because of this post, or the next 100 posts similar to it. And believe me i hate saying this but your only options are either "adapt" or "find another game, EVE is not for you".
And trust me, i dont say things like that often.
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Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
818
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:58:00 -
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Let's just agree to disagree. Regardless of our own opinions matter of fact is this is how mission system works and I doubt it will ever change. You have a choice of getting over it and at least trying to have fun or move on to different activities. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Maxx Kilbride
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:01:00 -
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I swear I've never seen a community more stuck up it's own ******* than EVE Online. My god. They can't take any VALID criticism. Even if they know they're in the wrong, they will constantly at as if not. It's like a religious, like a cult. They so badly want to be away from all the WoW clones they convince themselves that EVE is perfect and nothing is wrong, and if someone doesn't like something about EVE, they're in the wrong regardless of the issue.
I was led to believe the EVE Community was mature due to the "complexity" of it. I was led astray, I guess, just like with this mission.
EVE's community is on the same level as 4Chan or WoW's. No better, no worse. Most communities in games are like this these days. I'm glad I could dispel my own personal curiosity to see if people talking about how EVE was a "mature game for mature people"
It's not. Not that it's bad, I just wish people would stop perpetuating such falsities. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
699
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:04:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:I swear I've never seen a community more stuck up it's own ******* than EVE Online. My god. They can't take any VALID criticism. Even if they know they're in the wrong, they will constantly at as if not. It's like a religious, like a cult. They so badly want to be away from all the WoW clones they convince themselves that EVE is perfect and nothing is wrong, and if someone doesn't like something about EVE, they're in the wrong regardless of the issue.
I was led to believe the EVE Community was mature due to the "complexity" of it. I was led astray, I guess, just like with this mission.
EVE's community is on the same level as 4Chan or WoW's. No better, no worse. Most communities in games are like this these days. I'm glad I could dispel my own personal curiosity to see if people talking about how EVE was a "mature game for mature people"
It's not. Not that it's bad, I just wish people would stop perpetuating such falsities.
This might come as a surprise but most people will seem hostile and have some level of attitude if the person talking to them has a bad attitude
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
517
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:06:00 -
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MISSIONS
Risk: your ship and NPC standings decreases. Reward: ISK, LP and NPC standings increases.
Working as intended, allows for the ransoming of mission-specific items. A player might be willing to pay ISK in exchange of not having his standings wrecked. If you barge in here with 'valid criticism' please make sure it is actually valid and try to not come off as a raging spergwhale. The community is this defensive because they are allergic to misplaced entitlement. |
Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
819
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:09:00 -
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Yeah, we are immature and somehow you are the only one raging in this thread.
Believe me, we had many like you convinced about Eve being wrong and them being right. You don't see them around anymore because either they accept how Eve works or move into different game. Either way Eve gets better because of it. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
432
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:20:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:I swear I've never seen a community more stuck up it's own ******* than EVE Online. My god. They can't take any VALID criticism.
What valid criticism. Key items are unique, and spawned for each mission. He stole it from under your nose, which, while a ****/inmature move, is allowed. It's how EVE works, and trusting somebody to "help" you brings risks with it
Quote: I was led to believe the EVE Community was mature due to the "complexity" of it. I was led astray, I guess, just like with this mission.
Let me guess, you also believe games like Call of Duty are made for adults....
Quote:EVE's community is on the same level as 4Chan or WoW's.
Lets see, the 2 largest Alliances hail from Something Awful(Goons) Which has an Eye-Cancer inducing layout, Reddit(TEST), which has an Eye-cancer inducing layout, and both of them have a large 4chan following, which is... suprise supise, another site with an eye-cancer inducing layout.
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
700
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:27:00 -
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On the off chance that you do stick around, here is a friendly advice. If you choose to try and follow and understand it is fully up to you of course.
What you did in your original post is more whine and rage then constructive criticism. Im guessing what you wanted to do was forward a suggestion on what you think could be a good change for EVE correct? First off this is the right forum section for this; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270 I know that you cant post there while on a trial account, but now you know for the future.
Second, post constructively. Make sure your post include why you think it would be a good change, how it could improve the game, and how it could be done. Do not use caps, swear, or bad mouth CCP or the players. As soon as you do any of those you loose a lot of credibility and you will end up with a thread like this.
Final one, if someone reacts badly to your proposal, dont respond with more bad mouthing, swearing and caps! Read their points, counter said points, and come with valid arguments and reasons as to why you feel they are wrong. Just saying "You are wrong!" will not do you any good.
Stay polite, understand that things are different in EVE, and understand that if you are respectful during the discussion most will respond in a similar fashion. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
38
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:28:00 -
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4Chan or WoW? Lol.
Wow, who is the one ranting now? Who is the one not being mature enough to hold his rage and posting such stupid post?
This thread is a lost cause now.
Eve is a sandbox, anyone can play and do whatever they want. Whether they be pvper, scammer, pirate, ganker, carebear or whatever.
We are free to do whatever we want besides the EULA, no one is going force us with silly chat censors or any communist/socialist like rules. There are many good communities in EvE with friendly mature people but sadly you took the wrong alley to go to.
There are many games out there willing to have you if you dont like EvE.
We aren't "forcing" you to stay.
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Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:30:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:Oh it gets better. I was just told, and confirmed by a GM, that I can't complete the mission and will need to have the quest line reset because that was "my" Dagan. I can't just re-do it myself.
And yes yes, I get that whole spiel about how "Trust nobody", I don't care if it was an alt.
It's not his fault. It's not mine. It's EVE. It should've spawned one for each of us, as we both had the mission, both helped kill Dagan.
But no. Then people will come here and justify how that's just "EVE" and how it's "Hardcore" , and it's "my fault".
Right.
So I gotta lose standing now, money, time, effort, ect.
Cmon now,. There's no reason for it to be like this other than lazy developers. Anyone trying to excuse such a system is lying to themselves.
It you both had the Dagan mission..
It DID spawn one for each of you..
1 for you in YOUR mission pocket 1 for him in HIS mission pocket.
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Roel Yento
Black Rain Cartel
12
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:31:00 -
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First off, you were sharing your mission reward with the guy that ripped you off. You did not share the actual mission. It was assigned to you to complete however possible. EVE does promote team play, you beat the mission as a team right? The only difference is the guy that helped you probably knew what he was doing and knew he could jack.your mission loot and sell it to someone on contracts for some decent isk. It isn't bad design, it was meant to allow people to ruin things for you if you trust the wrong person. If he had his own similar mission he could of shared it with you if he wanted and you each would of gotten what you needed.
You come on here angry and complaining about a known game mechanic so people won't respond nicely to you. What are you gonna do when you get ganked or if you get affected by a big corp theft in the future? Complain about it or learn and move on? If you complain whenever something bad happens, this game isn't for you. It is designed to allow bad things to happen to you. Whether you learn how to avoid or prevent them from happening often is up to you. The other option is quit because the game is too harsh for your liking. |
Praxis Ginimic
342
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:31:00 -
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Hahahahahahaa....ha ha ha....hehehehehe...BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OK. NO, Its not EVE's fault. It is sqaurely your fault. This guy didn't need to kill Dagan, he was trolling you. Valuable lesson learned. Move along now |
Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:33:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, since it is how mission system is implemented this is game mechanic. And since you was denied reward Eve's main principle of being "cold harsh universe" was fulfilled. Which is a good thing in and on itself. Hardly. I don't feel of it as being "Cold and hard" I feel it's dumb and poorly designed from a mechanics stand point. They are actively discouraging party play in a game that is all about being connected with others. As for Dror's absurd notion. That wouldn't happen. Destination. Nobody fooled me. NEither of us knew. Both noobs. On top of this, how can you keep arguing that it's not a poor mechanic when a Game Master has to come and reset the quest? Cmon now. Don't be stupid here.
Plenty of examples where group play works
You made a stupid error...Deal with it.
If this pisses you off already, well I will expect more raging and whining tears on the forums soon.
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Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:35:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:I swear I've never seen a community more stuck up it's own ******* than EVE Online. My god. They can't take any VALID criticism. Even if they know they're in the wrong, they will constantly at as if not. It's like a religious, like a cult. They so badly want to be away from all the WoW clones they convince themselves that EVE is perfect and nothing is wrong, and if someone doesn't like something about EVE, they're in the wrong regardless of the issue.
I was led to believe the EVE Community was mature due to the "complexity" of it. I was led astray, I guess, just like with this mission.
EVE's community is on the same level as 4Chan or WoW's. No better, no worse. Most communities in games are like this these days. I'm glad I could dispel my own personal curiosity to see if people talking about how EVE was a "mature game for mature people"
It's not. Not that it's bad, I just wish people would stop perpetuating such falsities.
Your points are NOT valid.
The mechanics are working as intended by CCP. 10 years of EVE and 500.000+ subscribers proof it works.
That you don't like the harsh and cut-throat environment is not a fault in the game mechanics, it's personal preference.
If you don't like it...then don't play the game.
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FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
38
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:36:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:Hahahahahahaa....ha ha ha....hehehehehe...BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OK. NO, Its not EVE's fault. It is sqaurely your fault. This guy didn't need to kill Dagan, he was trolling you. Valuable lesson learned. Move along now
Exactly, making excuses every single time to pull the blame from himself. Its "EvE" fault, its the lazy "Dev" fault. Now its the community fault! |
Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:37:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Maxx Kilbride wrote:I swear I've never seen a community more stuck up it's own ******* than EVE Online. My god. They can't take any VALID criticism. Even if they know they're in the wrong, they will constantly at as if not. It's like a religious, like a cult. They so badly want to be away from all the WoW clones they convince themselves that EVE is perfect and nothing is wrong, and if someone doesn't like something about EVE, they're in the wrong regardless of the issue.
I was led to believe the EVE Community was mature due to the "complexity" of it. I was led astray, I guess, just like with this mission.
EVE's community is on the same level as 4Chan or WoW's. No better, no worse. Most communities in games are like this these days. I'm glad I could dispel my own personal curiosity to see if people talking about how EVE was a "mature game for mature people"
It's not. Not that it's bad, I just wish people would stop perpetuating such falsities. This might come as a surprise but most people will seem hostile and have some level of attitude if the person talking to them has a bad attitude Edit; Leaving this here for J'Poll. I will be tired tomorrow
HAHAHAHAHA.
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Echo Echoplex
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:51:00 -
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Maxx Kilbride wrote:...Like any other game... butbutbut...it's not.
Can I give you perhaps another perspective, one coming from a fellow noob?
I haven't played the Sisters arc yet, but if this had happened to me I'd be POd and frustrated too, with myself, not the game; for splitting the mission not knowing that I can't without losing the reward, for assuming I could split it based on the faulty logic of playing the arc "like any other game", for wasting my own time and being outplayed for my reward and for having to start the mission all over again.
I completely understand your frustration but I don't understand why it's directed elsewhere. The GM was nice enough to reset it for you so you've got another opportunity. Cool off and take advantage of the favor. Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton |
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