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Cyberin
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:58:00 -
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I'm so hoping that this is paving a path for increased resolution textures :D |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
176
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:01:00 -
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Woo Doggy wrote:Thanks, CCP. For updating the game and THEN the requirements. Backasswards.
Yes, I am bitter because my GTX280 is no longer working WITHOUT any notice it would no longer be compatible, until now.
I'll take my $15 bucks to World of Tanks.
There is no need to be bitter, nothing will change for you apart from CCP cannot guarantee that you will be able to run EVE on the highest setting with smooth and visually enjoyable experience across all game features.
Your GPU is still going to work with EVE and will perform the same.
CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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Valtrinor
S0utherN Comfort Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:02:00 -
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Yikes, while thinking about saying something to the effect of "I hope my T60p will be able to run it for another year or two" I just realized it's now six years old, ouch.
While my main PC is now running a 660 Ti, that ThinkPad (2613-CTO, for the tech-inclined and curious) is forever stuck with its' Mobility FireGL V5250 GPU. As said above, hopefully for the next year or two EVE will at least be able to start on it (just enough to set skills, bail to safety after a GPU crash, check market orders, etc.) as it's my only remaining computer that EVE will run on aside from my main desktop.
I won't be devastated if that's not the case, as it sounds like we're being given substantial forewarning, but it would suck, as this isn't likely to change for me any time soon. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time I kept EVE running on something it should not be able to. Being a bit of a nerd, at various points in the last two to four years I've gotten it to run on an Atom box (D510MO + 4GB RAM, Intel GMA 3150) and even an old 900 MHz AMD Duron, paired with a Radeon 9800 Pro and Windows 7 at the time if I recall correctly (just to see what I could get it to do). |
Kyodai Samedi
Interstellar Geographic Society
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:02:00 -
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"Because the Mac's drivers are not well tuned, and because of our Mac client's Cider wrapper, the minimum and recommend specs are beefier than Windows"
Huh no. Thanks to the very few existing configurations, the drivers for every single piece of hardware on a Mac box are specific to the exact components in that box. So yes, there isn't a whole lot of flexibility on a Mac system, but the drivers are undoubtedly better tuned on a Mac than they are on a Windows box.
The ONLY reason the "min and recommended specs are beefier than Windows" is the Cider wrapper. Or in other word the fact that after 10 years you guys still haven't coded an optimized, native version of the EVE client. No need to put your shortcomings on somebody else's back, really.
That being said I'm happy with the upgrade on the system configs and with what they might suggest is upcoming! |
Omega Tron
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:04:00 -
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It's about time CCP has started to embrace modern systems.
So can you -- CCP --- Please consider making 2 versions of EVE? The 1st one will run on your currently stated minimum & recommended hardware. Then make the 2nd one that will utilize the upper end gamer systems. An example of what I am suggesting is setting the 2nd version be of the same class as Crysis3 or Battlefield 4 type games. Additionally, really turn on all the Nivida Physic's options.
Oh and just a reminder about putting out the high resolution ships as an optional DLC that was talked about at fan fest -- any chance that will happen in this year?? EVE Online is CCP's sand box. -áThe sand is owned by CCP. -áWe just get to pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other. -áGet over your thoughts that you have some influence on what they will add or do for you. |
Jarac Raasen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:07:00 -
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Well... good thing I'm working up for a new laptop. Need to upgrade for the future, baby. |
witchking42
UNFRL Fleet Operations
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:12:00 -
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fingers crossed for the release of the high resolution texture pack |
Luc Vertis
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:19:00 -
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Kyodai Samedi wrote: Huh no. Thanks to the very few existing configurations, the drivers for every single piece of hardware on a Mac box are specific to the exact components in that box. So yes, there isn't a whole lot of flexibility on a Mac system, but the drivers are undoubtedly better tuned on a Mac than they are on a Windows box.
CCP is right on this one. You are probably right for every other driver in a Mac, but not for graphics. Even if there is only a few configurations to support, a GPU is probably the most complex chip you can find in a computer. Windows drivers are better because there is hundreds of workers paid by the companies that create GPUs to fine-tune performance for the most known apps out there. This is not easy and it doesn't seem to be done for Mac. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:20:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:We need more radical changes. Lose Windows XP support, for great justice! Windows XP is still used by a significant portion of EVE players and I would expect it to possibly take up to two years still for them all to upgrade based on current trends. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1628
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
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enterprisePSI wrote:OMG You no longer support my 15 year old PC, i hate you ccp, im quitting eve, send me isk, and i will double it. edit, if high rez texture and tessellation strikes at the same time, im quitting my job. Another edit, my 5850 is under the recommend specs, yet i can run 2 clients on 2 monitors, @ 1920*1080 everything high. Unless this is about to change. This is not about to change. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:26:00 -
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Kane Plekkel wrote:I've been running EVE on Windows 8 since about February, with no issues, so what do you mean by official support? Do you plan on having a Metro tile or something? We are not planning a Metro Tile. This is about internally requiring testing on Windows 8, rolling out Windows 8 across the dev team and customer support (in a mix with Windows 7; external testing then further has Windows XP and Windows Vista) and externally that players can expect everything to work on Windows 8. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Blade dance
Active Fusion Cold Fusion.
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:27:00 -
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I just want to say to all at CCP Thank you!! Thank you for updating things and thank you for your continually making this game better. I can't wait to see what is in store for the future!
It would be nice to see actual damage to ship's hulls, the effects of what a shield looks like reppeling an opponents weapon's volley all in real time, or a more detailed wreck that accurately depicts a shadow of what that wreck once was ( nike capitol ships do currently) .............................Perhaps in the future we will get there However, In the mean time thanks for getting us one step closer! |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:27:00 -
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Number One Everything wrote:I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading?
THIS CCP!!! Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff? |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:32:00 -
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Number One Everything wrote:I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading? Yes and no; we already take advantage of multiple cores in the sense that all I/O is done asynchronously (both disk and network I/O) and it's beneficial to EVE is the operating system has other cores for other processing. We are therefore setting the minimum at dual core so that EVE can "consume" one core while the operating system can attend to other things, inter alia on behalf of EVE, on other cores. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:36:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months. We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:37:00 -
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Now I have to eat my potato instead of playing eve on it! |
Lateris
Posiden Industrial
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:39:00 -
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OK I will upgrade from windows 3.1 |
Shiganaru
Ignis Aeternus Imperium
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:44:00 -
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ATI Radeon 4850 HD 1GB - 40-60 FPS
The only time that ever drops significantly is while inside those pesky dust clouds.
However, I should be getting a new Radeon 7850 2GB in the mail. . any minute actually. (^_^) |
BAJRAN BALI
Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc. Monkeys with Guns.
5
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:44:00 -
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Does this mean DX11 might be coming? I remember CCP did a demo on DX11 a while back. |
pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:46:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:We are not planning a Metro Tile. This is about internally requiring testing on Windows 8, rolling out Windows 8 across the dev team and customer support (in a mix with Windows 7; external testing then further has Windows XP and Windows Vista) and externally that players can expect everything to work on Windows 8.
Whoa wait, can we expect everything to work on Windows 7? When did that happen? Or is Windows 8 getting better support?
(I run Win 8 and generally have no win8-specific problems, but had to run repair.exe today because the launcher barfed somehow on the latest patch) @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Verik dra'Har
Adam's Brotherhood The Brotherhood of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:52:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.
I'm in a similar boat, but at least I have a gaming rig at home. I mine and run the occasional security mission in high sec on my laptop and the Intel gfx crash when I gate jump and come out of a station always, and occasionally on regular warp. I've litterally disabled everything or set it to low. Strangly it still looks decent, and I get the experience I expect on a low machine, but how about a toggle for certain graphics that may be causing some of the problems? (ie the gate jump transition from in the whole back to regular space and just make it look like a regular jump) |
Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:52:00 -
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But when will the launcher be supported under Windows 7? |
Luigi Thirty
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:55:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Number One Everything wrote:I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading? Yes and no; we already take advantage of multiple cores in the sense that all I/O is done asynchronously (both disk and network I/O) and it's beneficial to EVE that the operating system has other cores for other processing. We are therefore setting the minimum at dual core so that EVE can "consume" one core while the operating system can attend to other things, inter alia on behalf of EVE, on other cores.
Does this mean Eve will now spin all my cores at 100% while in Incarna mode instead of just my video card? If I have a quad-core processor, will I be able to walk around a station faster? |
Sir John Halsey
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:09:00 -
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No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :( |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:12:00 -
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Dev Blog wrote:AMD users: For a long time, the minimum/recommended AMD cards were not matched to their NVIDIA counterparts. They are equivalent now.
My understanding of English language must be failing me but what does the above mean? Exactly? Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:15:00 -
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Jeez not again last system upgrade I was out of EVE for 6 months
Will my Pentium 4 work with an Asus 4350 video card?
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:16:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months. We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.
So, if you can fly it now, you can fly it after the requirements change, right? :)
Not that that simple explanation made it any easier for the short bus crowd last time around...
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:26:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:
With the new system requirements we are creating a baseline for the future.
A future such as the HD textures? |
Daedra Blue
Atomic Biohazard
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:29:00 -
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So, when do we get the high-res texture pack promised at Fanfest?!
Honestly, we put 3000+ euros in our machines, and they sit there idly while we look at unsharp low res textures on our ships.
C'mon, we know you can do it, give a little effort. We will love you if you give us the high-res pack. |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:30:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:Dev Blog wrote:AMD users: For a long time, the minimum/recommended AMD cards were not matched to their NVIDIA counterparts. They are equivalent now. My understanding of English language must be failing me but what does the above mean? Exactly?
This means that previously the NVIDIA and AMD cards we recommended for EVE were not equal, the cards we recommend now have very similar rendering capabilities. CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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