Well, they are NPC corp alts, makes sense they would care a lot about highsec income

In America, lol , a sizeable chunk. But its under-represented because we all know where that line is.

Like welfare

~~~~Highsec is Safe~~~~

the acid test to your argument in the format of a nice straight forward multiple choice question

your task - choose the correct answer, A or B

Q: Can one player shoot at a different players ship in high security space.

A: No, therefore high-sec is safe
B: Yes, therefore high-sec is not safe

No there aren't. Many are incapable of doing so internationally but those do it to their own people. Whether its for the cash of another society or for control of something locally they do it all the time. Iceland was at one time Viking. Whether Vikings were doing Viking things for currency or not might be hard to prove but its the same inevitable effect. Societies are in various stages at various times but can become violent and uncivil if provoked. Or without provocation if the needs of the society demand it.

Tribalism, its a helluva drug.

I'm not sure the word "safe" means what you think it does. Why did you add so many spaces to your post?

I'm not sure the word "safe" means what you think it does. Why did you add so many spaces to your post?

stop stonewalling
answer the question A or B
I made it as simple as possible for the less gifted amongst you

"Safe" is a very relative term. You seem to prefer simple ideas, so that's what I shall use in my examples. Let's pretend hi-sec is a house. You can lock the doors, bar the windows, install a burglar alarm, hire some private security, maybe even purchase your own gun. You've created a relatively safe house. The only way to enter or destroy it at that point is to do something extreme, such as bulldoze it or commit arson. Such extreme acts will, naturally, incur the wrath of local law officials.

In null-sec, the house is gone. There are very few locks or bars available for your own protection. As there is no official police force, violent acts must be avenged by your community or you will all become vulnerable to further aggression. It's also some of the most fun you can have in an MMO where a large percentage of the player base considers staring at rocks engaging and worth their spare time.

If you're interested in seeing the real EvE online, I would be more than willing to sponsor you in to GoonWaffe once I have received your security deposit.

Irrelevant, and it doesn't answer the question
As for the simplicity, the concept of safety is simple in of its self. Something is safe, or it is not.

So once again the question that you seem determined to NOT answer, your task - choose the correct answer, A or B

Q: Can one player shoot at a different players ship in high security space.

A: No, therefore high-sec is safe
B: Yes, therefore high-sec is not safe

I apologize that my point remains elusive to you; however, I feel I have made my point well. Perhaps if you were less intent on arguing and trolling, constantly repeating your question, we would be able to have a civil discussion. I have no interest in engaging you in a slap fight.

Highsec is so risky, we need to reward them more

I'm not trolling, I'm discussing the point of view raised by 1 nul-sec dweller, the statement made was "Highsec is safe"

I would like to you refer to this --> Argument Pyramid
Trolling would be the 2 bottom tiers

and my question still stands
which is correct, A or B

The correct Answer of course highlights the incorrect part of the original statement, made by ... well whom ever.

Thank you for your concern with my posting, though I assure you I am well aware of the rules of the communicatory process.

Unfortunately, I feel it is necessary to point out the unabbreviated form of "hisec", which is "high security". While you may be shot at, there are rather dire consequences compared to low and null security regions. This, again, indicates the relativity of the word "safe". I believe that identifying the intricacies of this game in as simple a summation as A or B may lead to misinformation as well as misunderstanding between players.

Perhaps you would understand if you spent some time as a part of the Swarm? I am willing to waive a portion of your security deposit, should you wish to explore the part of EvE online that gaming journalists are actually interested in telling you about.

You can't make a fair comparison by saying you can make x more doing this activity compared to that one though Baltec.

Case in point I can make billions of ISK per day trading in Jita. Does that mean that trading in Jita is OP? (I don't make billions per day, but its theoretically possible)

obnubilate

I like this word.

I'm not trolling

Except (& accept) we aren't comparing missions with belts. We're comparing hisec belt rats with null sec belt rats so we use an activity requiring the same parameters and requirements to complete with roughly the same time to completion.

Yeah its demonstrable in game. Go kill a rat in hisec, note the payout, then go to null and kill the same class of rat. Its x3-x4 more per kill.

And it matters because your non evidence shows total payouts from bounties not from which security space each came.

Therefore, if one is to try to find any meaning from those stats you must consider the payout difference between each. At least you have to when your trying to imply one security space in particular is the cause for this being the largest wealth creation.

Yes I can.

Trading is balanced due to the fact that you need to invest tens of billions to make billions.

Income via shooting rats should be balanced like exploration is.

I feel as though a few Goons hide behind what a few created and carry themselves like they were the grand designers of it. Can you relate? But its only through the forums because in game I've never had interaction with them. I do remember forum pvp with some risk averse bear types. Lord Zim comes to mind.

A few could not grind a region down, we all created what we have. You don't have interaction from us because your highsec bubble encompasses nothing we are interested in. I don't care what happens in highsec I want all areas of the game to be more newbee friendly than bittervet friendly hence the buffing L1/2/3 and nerfing L4; also I want the game areas to be balanced by risk:reward, one of the core design ideas of the game.

The fact that adhering to part of the game's core ideas causes a loud minority to threaten to unsubscribe is proof in itself that those people are not good for the game and that we should not worry about them staying or going. They are "fair-weather friends" who will stay as long as its good for them but any change and they leave.

Like welfare

Apologies, I would hate to come off as an uneducated plebeian to someone who knows nothing about me.

"Safe" is a very relative term. You seem to prefer simple ideas, so that's what I shall use in my examples. Let's pretend hi-sec is a house. You can lock the doors, bar the windows, install a burglar alarm, hire some private security, maybe even purchase your own gun. You've created a relatively safe house. The only way to enter or destroy it at that point is to do something extreme, such as bulldoze it or commit arson. Such extreme acts will, naturally, incur the wrath of local law officials.

In null-sec, the house is gone. There are very few locks or bars available for your own protection. As there is no official police force, violent acts must be avenged by your community or you will all become vulnerable to further aggression. It's also some of the most fun you can have in an MMO where a large percentage of the player base considers staring at rocks engaging and worth their spare time.

If you're interested in seeing the real EvE online, I would be more than willing to sponsor you in to GoonWaffe once I have received your security deposit.

I'm afraid that's not what you said. Per your post here:




No wonder you find it difficult to argue with other people. Not only do you have difficulty in replying to what they've actually said, you can't even remember what you said yourself.