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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1763
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:46:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute. REMOVE PLEX and get rid of the PAY to Win model..
Don't buy Plex.
Not even worth arguing.
A resounding "no." |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8752
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:07:00 -
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Tiven loves Tansien wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:Dear OP,
If Chribba is in opposition to your idea, then you're wrong.
That is all.
haha... why do you lick the white knight so much? Raspberry?
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
953
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:20:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Tiven loves Tansien wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:Dear OP,
If Chribba is in opposition to your idea, then you're wrong.
That is all.
haha... why do you lick the white knight so much? Raspberry? myrtle. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:34:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:Franco Stein wrote: Outside of the negative comment.... you are again mistaken.
With your logic CCP should do the following.
1) Remove any requirements to fly ships, mods, etc. 2) Stop the progressive skilling of characters. 3) Remove any leveling in game or character progression.
You could just as easily have a very skilled player who knows exactly how to win your above scenario, but only so darn lazy he refuses to work for it in game and throws down his cash to get this win....to make him feel like a big boy.
Learn the difference . . . . . it's not about skill, it's about long term players not paying anymore for the game and ANY player's ability to add RL money to a game to get a quick road to whatever!!!!
Remove PLEX and you will have to EARN your wins or truly FEEL those losses, and WAIT for those big finishes. Is that what it is OP? Are you truly FEELING your losses? So your mad because you HAVE to buy PLEX, and you are pissed because someone asploded your rifter and you burn with hatred just KNOWING that the SOB that made you $hit your shorts is some @sshole vet that farms for his plex? Am I getting your vibe? You have no proof of anything and you're whining in GD like a little girl.
No mister Tixam, I didn't lose a ship.... but thank you so much for caring about my feelings.
If you feel that posting a game change is whining, you are mistaken. Change happens if you like it or not, some people comment with real words, others who don't have a strong command of sentences just use derogatory comments and tell the OP to go away.
in either case, I really care about you too!
PS... I don't PVP in this game because there is no PVP in this game! That what I am posting about. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
726
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:56:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute. REMOVE PLEX and get rid of the PAY to Win model..
Don't buy Plex. You are, quite possibly congenitally impaired.
At least I hope that's the reason . . .
For this bad post.
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
298
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:03:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:You can't go 5 sentences without saying Blizzard or WoW can you?
Jenn, confused? You're suppose to be hitting on Ramona. I'm not that way. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
298
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:05:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Chribba wrote:Tiven loves Tansien wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:Dear OP,
If Chribba is in opposition to your idea, then you're wrong.
That is all.
haha... why do you lick the white knight so much? Raspberry? myrtle. Cherry. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
953
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:08:00 -
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good man, I hate cherries. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
852
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:08:00 -
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Epic thread. The Tears Must Flow |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
726
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:12:00 -
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Telemicus Thrace wrote:
The greatest benefits of PLEX are:
- More players to shoot / trade with. - Healthier economy from more ISK needing to be generated. - Players can trade Cash for ISK risk free and the money goes to CCP instead of RMTs
Honestly though, you are just coming off as another troll. You are insulting and irrational and you don't make any valid point.
Less RMT too.
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
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Obunagawe
148
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:15:00 -
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Remove all aspects of the game apart from skill training. It's the only fair way. |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:18:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote: No mister Tixam, I didn't lose a ship.... but thank you so much for caring about my feelings.
If you feel that posting a game change is whining, you are mistaken. Change happens if you like it or not, some people comment with real words, others who don't have a strong command of sentences just use derogatory comments and tell the OP to go away.
in either case, I really care about you too!
PS... I don't PVP in this game because there is no PVP in this game! That what I am posting about.
1) I do appreciate the respect in your address. I will respond in kind.
2) Mr. Franco, perhaps I've misjudged your intent. However, your initial post is at the very least a rant embellished with what I can only guess to be your still drying tears.
A:Franco Stein wrote: This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
Please stop ranting in a forum for a game you just don't like. This is called trolling, and you're particularly bad at it.
As others have previously stated you are both incorrect and inexperienced in how the community uses PLEX and how it effects gameplay.
B:Franco Stein wrote:REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
I assume that you are not trolling on an alt. So...in 29 days, how have you contributed to EVE?
PLEX is payed for by real players... out of pocket. Your argument is invalid.
C:Franco Stein wrote:REMOVE PLEX and get rid of the PAY to Win model..
PLEX does not make the game pay to win. Go ahead, sell a few PLEX buy a big ship and find out for yourself. Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Northern Misfit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:23:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:Franco Stein wrote:REMOVE PLEX and get rid of the PAY to Win model.. PLEX does not make the game pay to win. Go ahead, sell a few PLEX buy a big ship and find out for yourself.
I can even recommend a few systems for you to bring your shiney pretty ship. I might even help you learn some handy skills.
PLEX has nothing to do with winning. Skill, practice, practice, practice, undocking and not trolling forums is the best place to start. I will babysit your stuff for you while you're gone, all contributions to my ship replacement program are-ásubject to being exploded on the undock
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4314
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:56:00 -
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I'm not really sure the OP knows how PLEX works... he certainly doesn't understand what Pay to Win means... To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Bob Blunts
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:58:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder Not me. I never believed in this F2P scam, as there is no free lunches. And damn if I'm going to slave in a game to pay for it. CCP may prefer a roller coaster revenue stream, but just look what content it delivers. Meanwhile over at WoW, they're churning out new content in 90 day cycles now. Yeah, a consistent revenue stream has it's merits. $14.95 isn't really that expensive, considering that is the price for 1 movie outing a month (or a meal at a mid level restaurant...even poor college students could afford it).
Hi! You seem to be unaware of this, but Wow is a completely unredeemable steaming pile of garbage. It has been like this since roughly 2006. Noone here, besides you, gives a rats arse what ~ content ~ any of the drooling theme park retards who play that terrible game are being spoonfed. My 12 year old son won't even touch that crap game because he says "it's for little kids." I'm inclined to agree with him.
HTH. |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
44
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:51:00 -
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Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world that has never played WoW. Never even been to the website.
I have played STO though. That is themepark city. Also, Mr. Epeen once said he was playing a game during that major downtime ccp had a few weeks back but was too embarrassed to mention the title of it. I'm still curious what that was, Mr. Epeen. |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:52:00 -
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I think the issues is your definition of winning folks.
Winning doesn't mean Blowing up another players ship, exclusively!
Winning in this game could mean all or none of the following and is certainly effected by RL Money being added to buy earned game items instead of actually earning them or buying them in game from earned efforts.... piracy, trading, whatever?
1) Seed money to trade with= I am a master trader, all I need is a few billion ISK to control my market... let's PLEX it. 2) False value of time vs reward vs risk: My Tengu will cost me one hour of work time, let's role!!! I'll Just PLEX it. 3) Serious advantage in PVE game play of ALL sorts. With Plex I can buy ORCA's, Miners, Storming missions, etc..etc. 4) Legitimately beating a high score (personal or group).... in all areas of the game!
If all you think winning is .... surrounds blowing up another players rig... well, no one can help you.....
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Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:54:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world that has never played WoW. Never even been to the website. I have played STO though. That is themepark city. Also, Mr. Epeen once said he was playing a game during that major downtime ccp had a few weeks back but was too embarrassed to mention the title of it. I'm still curious what that was, Mr. Epeen.
I have NEVER played that game, although friends do... I WILL NEVER play that game... .... I want to play a space ship game, but there is none that I have found so far! |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:59:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:I will never understand people who think like this. I pay my Eve sub with real money. Why? Time efficiency. Even if I enjoyed Eve's PVE (which I do not), it would make more sense to just pay my sub with cash rather than PLEX. Show me anywhere in the game that I can make 500-600m ISK/hr (assuming a $17 per hour irl pay rate) without either a massive investment, or serious risk involved. Just because I pay my sub with cash, doesn't mean that I contribute anything more than a person who PLEXes their account. In fact, I probably contribute less, because they are having to perform in game actions to keep their subs rolling, whereas I am not.
This is true for most people. But there are still a number of people for whom plexing makes sense. Or do you think most people who plex their account are stupid?
There are people who make more than 500M ISK/hour in eve (sometimes quite a bit above that), but those are, admittedly, very few people. There are some people who cannot really make any income in real life approaching even 5 $/hour (sometimes way less), depending on the country they live in. Then there are people who enjoy making money in game and simply have enough left over after expenses, so why shouldn't they pay with plex?
(There are a few more cases where plexing your account makes sense, but those are a few to illustrate the case.) |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:03:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:I think the issues is your definition of winning folks.
Winning doesn't mean Blowing up another players ship, exclusively!
Winning in this game could mean all or none of the following and is certainly effected by RL Money being added to buy earned game items instead of actually earning them or buying them in game from earned efforts.... piracy, trading, whatever?
1) Seed money to trade with= I am a master trader, all I need is a few billion ISK to control my market... let's PLEX it. 2) False value of time vs reward vs risk: My Tengu will cost me one hour of work time, let's role!!! I'll Just PLEX it. 3) Serious advantage in PVE game play of ALL sorts. With Plex I can buy ORCA's, Miners, Storming missions, etc..etc. 4) Legitimately beating a high score (personal or group).... in all areas of the game!
If all you think winning is .... surrounds blowing up another players rig... well, no one can help you.....
PLEX trade for ~550mil isk or more.
People are not winning with that amount.
They are learning valuable (read: costly) lessons sooner rather than later.
People that are established in game (read and think about this next part carefully) DO NOT NEED TO SELL PLEX TO GET MONEY TO WIN.
So again, let's be perfectly clear here.
You are talking out your arse Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:03:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:I will never understand people who think like this. I pay my Eve sub with real money. Why? Time efficiency. Even if I enjoyed Eve's PVE (which I do not), it would make more sense to just pay my sub with cash rather than PLEX. Show me anywhere in the game that I can make 500-600m ISK/hr (assuming a $17 per hour irl pay rate) without either a massive investment, or serious risk involved. Just because I pay my sub with cash, doesn't mean that I contribute anything more than a person who PLEXes their account. In fact, I probably contribute less, because they are having to perform in game actions to keep their subs rolling, whereas I am not. This is true for most people. But there are still a number of people for whom plexing makes sense. Or do you think most people who plex their account are stupid? There are people who make more than 500M ISK/hour in eve (sometimes quite a bit above that), but those are, admittedly, very few people. There are some people who cannot really make any income in real life approaching even 5 $/hour (sometimes way less), depending on the country they live in. Then there are people who enjoy making money in game and simply have enough left over after expenses, so why shouldn't they pay with plex? (There are a few more cases where plexing your account makes sense, but those are a few to illustrate the case.)
PLEX isn't ISK or it would be called ISK...... know the difference! |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:17:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:
PLEX trade for ~550mil isk or more.
People are not winning with that amount.
They are learning valuable (read: costly) lessons sooner rather than later.
People that are established in game (read and think about this next part carefully) DO NOT NEED TO SELL PLEX TO GET MONEY TO WIN.
So again, let's be perfectly clear here.
You are talking out your arse
The difference is the LIFER or "established as you say it" doesn't need to sell PLEX and therefore uses PLEX to play for FREE, or they wouldn't be complaining about me suggesting that PLEX be removed from the game...... who is talking out of where?
Why in the world would an established player care one way or another if PLEX exists if they weren't using it to sub accounts. |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:17:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:PLEX isn't ISK or it would be called ISK...... know the difference!
Could you explain? I honestly don't know what you mean ... |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:22:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Franco Stein wrote:PLEX isn't ISK or it would be called ISK...... know the difference! Could you explain? I honestly don't know what you mean ...
PLEX originates using REAL Money ONLY....
ISK is earned in Game and is FAKE money ONLY....
That is the difference..... just because you can turn PLEX into ISK or buy an already in game PLEX for ISK doesn't make them the same. PLEX doesn't get in game unless someone paid REAL money for it!
PLEX turned into ISK is a cheat code.... plain and simple, and a PAY (read again the description of PLEX) to WIN or with our simplified example = Pay for Advantage!!! |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:28:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:The difference is the LIFER or "established as you say it" doesn't need to sell PLEX and therefore uses PLEX to play for FREE, or they wouldn't be complaining about me suggesting that PLEX be removed from the game...... who is talking out of where?
Why in the world would an established player care one way or another if PLEX exists if they weren't using it to sub accounts.
Of course they are using it to pay for game time.
Your original argument was that PLEX was pay to win, you have lost that argument so now you are complaining that space rich players play for free.
Guess what?
They are also the ones manufacturing ships/modules/equipment that allow noobs to access the best the game has to offer.
Them buying PLEX benefits new players willing to sell PLEX for startup isk.
Let me finish with repeating that NEW PLAYERS DON'T WIN BY BUYING PLEX.
Try it and let us know how you do. Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:29:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:Franco Stein wrote:The difference is the LIFER or "established as you say it" doesn't need to sell PLEX and therefore uses PLEX to play for FREE, or they wouldn't be complaining about me suggesting that PLEX be removed from the game...... who is talking out of where?
Why in the world would an established player care one way or another if PLEX exists if they weren't using it to sub accounts. Of course they are using it to pay for game time. Your original argument was that PLEX was pay to win, you have lost that argument so now you are complaining that space rich players play for free. Guess what? They are also the ones manufacturing ships/modules/equipment that allow noobs to access the best the game has to offer. Them buying PLEX benefits new players willing to sell PLEX for startup isk. Let me finish with repeating that NEW PLAYERS DON'T WIN BY BUYING PLEX. Try it and let us know how you do.
The original post is the same, you just say one part of it.... that PLEX is bad.... read it again
PLEX gives lifers a FREE way to play and others a insta-advantage..... two streets...same problem! |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:31:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote:Franco Stein wrote:PLEX isn't ISK or it would be called ISK...... know the difference! Could you explain? I honestly don't know what you mean ... PLEX originates using REAL Money ONLY.... ISK is earned in Game and is FAKE money ONLY.... That is the difference..... just because you can turn PLEX into ISK or buy an already in game PLEX for ISK doesn't make them the same. PLEX doesn't get in game unless someone paid REAL money for it! PLEX turned into ISK is a cheat code.... plain and simple, and a PAY (read again the description of PLEX) to WIN or with our simplified example = Pay for Advantage!!! The REAL BIGGEST BUMMER about it is..... There is no incentive to Subscribe to this game after the initial startup and the publisher is forced to scam for revenue!
PLEX can be purchased with ISK that was made from purchasing a SUB.
So again your argument is invalid.
Please get a life. Go play something you like
You have kept me somewhat entertained at work today, but it's time to go home now.
Bye Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:33:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:Franco Stein wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote:Franco Stein wrote:PLEX isn't ISK or it would be called ISK...... know the difference! Could you explain? I honestly don't know what you mean ... PLEX originates using REAL Money ONLY.... ISK is earned in Game and is FAKE money ONLY.... That is the difference..... just because you can turn PLEX into ISK or buy an already in game PLEX for ISK doesn't make them the same. PLEX doesn't get in game unless someone paid REAL money for it! PLEX turned into ISK is a cheat code.... plain and simple, and a PAY (read again the description of PLEX) to WIN or with our simplified example = Pay for Advantage!!! The REAL BIGGEST BUMMER about it is..... There is no incentive to Subscribe to this game after the initial startup and the publisher is forced to scam for revenue! PLEX can be purchased with ISK that was made from purchasing a SUB. So again your argument is invalid. Please get a life. Go play something you like You have kept me somewhat entertained at work today, but it's time to go home now. Bye
Have a good night.... truly it's all in good fun... I am throwing the idea out to stir the pot and that is all....
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:42:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:I think the issues is your definition of winning folks.
Winning doesn't mean Blowing up another players ship, exclusively!
Winning in this game could mean all or none of the following and is certainly effected by RL Money being added to buy earned game items instead of actually earning them or buying them in game from earned efforts.... piracy, trading, whatever?
1) Seed money to trade with= I am a master trader, all I need is a few billion ISK to control my market... let's PLEX it. 2) False value of time vs reward vs risk: My Tengu will cost me one hour of work time, let's role!!! I'll Just PLEX it. 3) Serious advantage in PVE game play of ALL sorts. With Plex I can buy ORCA's, Miners, Storming missions, etc..etc. 4) Legitimately beating a high score (personal or group).... in all areas of the game!
If all you think winning is .... surrounds blowing up another players rig... well, no one can help you.....
PLEX is no more an advantage than a player giving an alt isk which happens all the time. So I guess you want to get rid of alts as well. While you're at it I guess you'd want to get rid of the character market too, as that can be also seen as an advantage by some.
I don't use alts I also pay by sub even though I don't have to. I have more isk than I know what to do with at this moment so buying PLEX would not benefit me one bit if the goal was to sell for isk. Any advantage you might gain is limited by the skills that your character has trained. But in the grand scheme of things the advantage you would gain is small certainly not enough to worry about.
So even I think you're really making a mountain out of a molehill. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15285
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:48:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:You puzzle me?
What does buying something in JITA have to do with Buying ISK via a real life transaction to get a TIme Code to sell to get ISK. It has to do with how you're skipping over the very important part of where the ISK and characters are coming from.
When you use ISK to buy a PLEX or a character (or vice versa, or any combination thereof), all that's happening is that you're transferring in-game assets. My ISK for your PLEX. My character for your ISK. My PLEX for your characterGǪ (actually that isn't allowed GÇö we have to go through the medium of ISK to make that happen). All of it already has to exist in-game for the trade to be made.
If no-one has taken the time to create the ISK, then there will be nothing to sell your PLEX for. It doesn't matter how low you're willing to go GÇö you can't sell it. You gain zero ISK. Conversely, it doesn't matter how much ISK you have GÇö if no-one has created a PLEX, you are up a certain creek without a paddle and you will not be able to GÇ£play for freeGÇ¥ any more no matter what. Finally, and in exactly the same way, unless someone has spent the two years required, there will be no 50M SP character for you to buy, and you can have every ISK and PLEX in the database GÇö you're not getting a 50M SP character.
It is all in-game assets that other players have produced and are willing to sell to you. They are no different than Neutron Blaster Cannon IIs. Buying any of those don't buy you any more GÇ£winGÇ¥ than buying a rack of NBCIIs does: you only get what other people are willing to sell you, and you only get stuff that already exists in the game because people have followed the standard rules for creating them, using the standard rules that balance that creation process. There are no exploits; no cheats; nothing but an exchange of effort and time.
You can't buy any GÇ£winGÇ¥ because then someone else would have already won the game with the GÇ£winGÇ¥ you're trying to buy. If they did, why on earth would they be selling it to you? Maybe it's because it doesn't actually GÇ£winGÇ¥ anything so buying it can't be P2W. There is no sudden advantage gained through any of the processes you describe because they have all been in the game for ages and/or are already balanced out by the restrictions on creating them GÇö restrictions that apply equally to everyone. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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