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Mark Blema
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:36:00 -
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So I am looking at getting into a falcon. I would like to know the pros and cons from other falcon owners concerning the high slots.... To blaster or rail? Please teach me about the boat.
The plan is for low sec PvP and I am leaning towards a rail fit with long point and orbiting at like 15 - 20 km.... The tank will be ECM and the lows will augment the ECM same with the rigs. I've gotten it thus far to have a 13.5 racial specific jam strength.
So on to the guns... What do you favor and why.
Also not a solo boat flying with at least one other boat but I don't know what my buddy will bring to the fray outside of what he promised "****" |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
905
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:49:00 -
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1st and I'd say after this one no much more because you're usually dead after this one: "Get that falcon, kill it NAO !!"
Not my preferred reccon, felt really dirty after using a Rook a couple times. Lachesis and Arazu are my prefered but still, Falcon is a very nasty thing on your overview you want to get rid ASAP, you'll often be the very first target everyone switches to, a bit like dictors, they don't want you around.
For those guys I talk about using them frequently they tell me to not use it in other way than hot drops or gate camping, they can be used in many other pvp forms but seems the ships survivability becomes exponentially compromised, which is easy to get because that's exactly what I do whenever I see one on the overview no matter the primary target, I want to kill it ASAP and so do most of the guys in gang or fleet.
Edit: for gate camping you don't want to stick very close of that gate and try to apply whatever dps, imho. ECM is a dice roll, you miss it and at 20km you can be sure you'll feel the pain. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
257
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:50:00 -
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A Falcon should be jamming at it's max jam range, and the highs don't really matter, stick anything you want in there. |
Hamatitio
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.06.28 01:29:00 -
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smart bombs for anti drone work |
Bigg Gun
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:42:00 -
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I'm thinking maybe he wants to solo pvp with it??? In that case staying at 100 or w/e won't help him much. I honestly don't see a reason to orbit at 15-20 if they can't shoot back at you, might as well be short range. Also scrambler will turn off mwd of enemy. And don't forget that if they have drones they can still take you out even without guns. Maybe put a plate or something in there just in case someone get a lock or a drone looks your way |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.28 10:37:00 -
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Hamatitio wrote:smart bombs for anti drone work
+1 this is what you fit in your high slots(beside a cloak). Watch the cap. |
Ryuce
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:20:00 -
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Jill Antaris wrote:Hamatitio wrote:smart bombs for anti drone work +1 this is what you fit in your high slots(beside a cloak). Watch the cap. I tend to fit an armor and/or hull repper too - sometimes I go with a probe lanucher - 1-2 medium smartbombs normally takes care of the drones very fast. |
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
418
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:37:00 -
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If you want a solo pvp cloaky gank machine then you might want to try the pilgrim. Otherwise stick to the combat recons not the force recons since the force recons are more than squishy |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
437
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:54:00 -
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Mark Blema wrote:
The tank will be ECM
So on to the guns... What do you favor and why.
You need more tank than ecm. Unless you plan on jamming drones 1 by 1. Falcon is best used at range, so rails is about the only option imo. By range, I mean 70 to 100 km. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1368
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:37:00 -
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Mark Blema wrote:So I am looking at getting into a falcon. I would like to know the pros and cons from other falcon owners concerning the high slots.... To blaster or rail? Please teach me about the boat.
The plan is for low sec PvP and I am leaning towards a rail fit with long point and orbiting at like 15 - 20 km.... The tank will be ECM and the lows will augment the ECM same with the rigs. I've gotten it thus far to have a 13.5 racial specific jam strength.
So on to the guns... What do you favor and why.
Also not a solo boat flying with at least one other boat but I don't know what my buddy will bring to the fray outside of what he promised "****"
There's a reason why "Blame Falcon" was a meme years ago. Google the history and you'll get an idea of why it's still loved (but only a shadow of what it used to be). "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
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God's Apples
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2013.06.28 19:09:00 -
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All pro falcon pilots use cap xfers on their falcons. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2225
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Posted - 2013.06.28 19:34:00 -
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Appropriate highs:
Cloak, of course... Smart bombs to clear drones.... Covert Cyno
Acceptible options I've seen: Probe Launcher Nuet Nos Remote Armor Repper (hull could work). Cyno
Things you don't need: Guns, Guns, Guns, because your not there to do dps!!!
Now, if this is a "solo" setup, then obviously you need guns too.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1335
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Posted - 2013.06.28 19:53:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Mark Blema wrote:So I am looking at getting into a falcon. I would like to know the pros and cons from other falcon owners concerning the high slots.... To blaster or rail? Please teach me about the boat.
The plan is for low sec PvP and I am leaning towards a rail fit with long point and orbiting at like 15 - 20 km.... The tank will be ECM and the lows will augment the ECM same with the rigs. I've gotten it thus far to have a 13.5 racial specific jam strength.
So on to the guns... What do you favor and why.
Also not a solo boat flying with at least one other boat but I don't know what my buddy will bring to the fray outside of what he promised "****" There's a reason why "Blame Falcon" was a meme years ago. Google the history and you'll get an idea of why it's still loved (but only a shadow of what it used to be).
"Because of Falcon!"
How quickly the memory fades... |
Mark Blema
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Posted - 2013.06.29 00:55:00 -
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Well it won't be a solo ship but were only going to have a total of two people in fleet. Possibly a third might join. In the interest of speeding up the murder I'm trying to go dps. Speed is our ally the longer the engagement the more likely there will be eccm support and more targets than we can deal with.
I am told my friend will try to bring a HAC as bait while I remain cloaked near by. Granted we've got a lot to work on but our fleet discipline is there and we work well together. I fear I've already given away to much but some understanding needed to be given, so the question could be clearly answered. I still cannot get confirmation from him though as to which if any HAC will be used in the fray.
Thanks so far for the enlightenment, I never thought of a plate. This then begs plate or EANM? |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:49:00 -
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Mark Blema wrote:Well it won't be a solo ship but were only going to have a total of two people in fleet. Possibly a third might join. In the interest of speeding up the murder I'm trying to go dps. Speed is our ally the longer the engagement the more likely there will be eccm support and more targets than we can deal with.
I am told my friend will try to bring a HAC as bait while I remain cloaked near by. Granted we've got a lot to work on but our fleet discipline is there and we work well together. I fear I've already given away to much but some understanding needed to be given, so the question could be clearly answered. I still cannot get confirmation from him though as to which if any HAC will be used in the fray.
Thanks so far for the enlightenment, I never thought of a plate. This then begs plate or EANM?
mids/lows/rigs are suggested to be
10mn MWD ECCM 5* racial ECM -- 1600 plate (meta 4 or tech 2) 2 signal distortion amps -- 2 T2 ewar rangerigs (only fools fit more jamstrength instead of jamrange)
highs normally turn out to be a cloak, an expanded launcher and two somethings (it really does not matter) I only correct my own spelling. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
422
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:43:00 -
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Being a falcon pilot, regular usuer and fc myself with alot of experiance with falcons: you really need to learn to fly it with disapline in small fleets. You will be insat primaried en as thin as paper. Range is your everything and best friend. Decloak moments, hide moments ect all choises that can chance outcomes of fights. It is whats fun of flying a falcon, extra risk factor... like flying light dicters. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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