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Yummy Yummy Yummy
Enslave. Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:37:00 -
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I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
I had today again for the 3rd time this month someone tell me to Kill myself in rl even describing how they wanted me to do it.
I just don't understand how some people can value a human life as so little, trying to push someone to kill themselves
I did the usual petition but im worried the GM's are not taking it seriously.
I just wanted to say before you think its funny to push someone to so something horrible to others or themselves , how would you feel if they actually did follow through with it and there blood was on your hands?
To be clear I suffer from depression, but I am Not suicidal
That said, after being told to kill myself it gets me sick to my stomach.
I am a part of a mental health community that has people far worse off then me which I have seen do desperate things when pushed into it.
I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:40:00 -
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Quit eve buy a puppy |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:40:00 -
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Don't take it seriously, some eve players are simply idiots who wouldn't survive socially in the real world. Petition it and let them enjoy their bans. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
416
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:45:00 -
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You ever seen the movie "Pump Up The Volume"? |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
64
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:53:00 -
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If someone could be driven to commit suicide because some assh*le ran his mouth in an online game then that person has way bigger problems than having some assh*le run his mouth in an online game and should be getting treatment so that when some assh*le runs his mouth in the online game the person won't be so fragile. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2673
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:55:00 -
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Open a support ticket and report it if it offends you so much. Bringing your issues and/or baggage to GD will only cause you to be ridiculed.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
TheButcherPete
The James Gang SpaceMonkey's Alliance
290
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:01:00 -
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yeahhh submit Chatlog to CCP, pres submit butan and never see them again THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1560
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:06:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:If someone could be driven to commit suicide because some assh*le ran his mouth in an online game then that person has way bigger problems than having some assh*le run his mouth in an online game and should be getting treatment so that when some assh*le runs his mouth in the online game the person won't be so fragile.
Yes, but, oddly, the suicidal don't fancy treatment. The idea of having to be "fixed" generally decreases what little self-esteem they have left and drives them further into the spiral. Maybe this game is an escape. You appear to also be running your mouth. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:13:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:
I just don't understand how some people can value a human life as so little,.....
Just goes to show that everything in Eve has a price.
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Abon
STAHLSTURM Test Alliance Please Ignore
148
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:19:00 -
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See this for future reference. |
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Rutger Janssen
Xanadu
88
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:27:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your problems and I hope you'll be able to leave it behind you in time.
GMs should take it seriously it when reported. It can be argued that it's abusive, threating, harmful and obscene and therefor a violation of the EULA, section Conduct, subsection A, point 5.
If you believe you're not taken seriously, you can ask for your ticket to be escalated to a more senior GM. You can always try to ask if such behaviour is a violation of the EULA and the consequnces of such act would be according to their protocol. (Talk about generics not the individual case as that's something between the GM and the player)
If you believe a GM is not performing his job, I'm not sure what the correct step to take would be, use the feedback form, open another ticket to report it to a lead GM or even contact internal affairs if he's abusing his position.
Lastly I'd like to iterate what has been said, don't take it personal. He doesn't know you, if he can't seperate a game from reality he also has issues and should seek help.
And a longer version of Abons point would be Derren Browns The experiment: Delving Deeper: The Gameshow . |
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:39:00 -
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This answer is easy, stop dumping in others Wheaties, I have never been told anything like that cause I mind my own in game.
If you know what you do angers people then don't do it if you don't want them to say stuff to you.
Depression is not an excuse I feel like doing stuff to others that pass gas my way when I am minding my own in RL, I don't cause I control myself. believe me if you could read what goes through my mind you would think I'm a mad man..I'm not I'm a human monkey that has to work to control myself, the more you do it the better you get at it.
Good luck. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:40:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:If someone could be driven to commit suicide because some assh*le ran his mouth in an online game then that person has way bigger problems than having some assh*le run his mouth in an online game
Obviously.
Point is, the last thing someone that close to the edge needs is one more push.
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Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:55:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:If you know what you do angers people then don't do it if you don't want them to say stuff to you. This isn't good advice. You shouldn't give a flying crap what some moron on the internet thinks of you. This is a game, at the end of the day you can turn off the computer and do something else if someone is annoying you.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10449
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:57:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know ...
I like you.
Don't kill yourself, instead do something you ike and be happy even if only for a moment.
1 Kings 12:11
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
350
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:07:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote: I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out.
It's the internet. You need to train your shield compensation skills up to level 4. People who suffer from depression and are still alive having suffered from it for a long time, have probably trained it to level V. |
Crompton Aberforth
University of Caille Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:37:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
I had today again for the 3rd time this month someone tell me to Kill myself in rl even describing how they wanted me to do it.
blah blah blah
I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out.
I support what the OP is saying.
I am constantly amazed at the hate and vitriol spewing from the keyboard warriors of the internet, especially those who hide behind anonymity. The rule seems to be 'if you disagree with me or I don't approve of your philosophies then I can say what I like regardless of how vile I am'.
This behaviour is certainly not restricted to EVE. In forums without moderation it can get particularly nasty. I struggle to understand why so many human beings are filled with such hate.
I'd like to see internet users self regulate by applying ethical tests to posts. Think before you post. Do you really mean what you are saying? Would you say it if you had to put your real name against it? If someone said the same thing to your sister/ best friend/ grandparent, would you be outraged? Would your mother give you a clip over the ear if she read it?
Just sayin.......! I am the space cadet your mother warned you about. |
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
152
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:59:00 -
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It's just tears. Cheerish the fact that you are succesful in reaping them.
Of course you have every right to petition what goes against the rules if it really bothers you.
Have you ever thought about that your ingame actions could hurt a squeamish person in a similar way as those words tho? Some people just have a hard time to distinguish between game and irl. Guess what i'm trying to say is that i support your complaint but at the same time am a bit baffled that you don't hold that high standard to your ingame actions because i think people wouldn't say such things if they wouldn't feel violated irl by what happend to them ingame.
To give you an example. When i gank some miner noob i empasize with them. In my mind i see some guy in front of his PC who's sad and angry. I would consider it fair game if he calls me names or whatever. |
Gealbhan
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
373
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:09:00 -
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OP, you reap what you sow. You admit to being for lack of a better term, a ****, and when someone gives you a taste of your own medicine you run to GM's and here of all places. Sorry but I have no sympathies until you start changing your ways. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers S2N Citizens
68
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:14:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
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And you still wonder why...
All of a sudden you become weak and suffer of depression when someone talks sh*it but at the same time you do horrible sh*t in game and expect others to....do what ?
I guess what goes around, comes around... |
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:19:00 -
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Johan Toralen wrote: Have you ever thought about that your ingame actions could hurt a squeamish person in a similar way as those words tho? Some people just have a hard time to distinguish between game and irl. Guess what i'm trying to say is that i support your complaint but at the same time am a bit baffled that you don't hold that high standard to your ingame actions because i think people wouldn't say such things if they wouldn't feel violated irl by what happend to them ingame.
To give you an example. When i gank some miner noob i empasize with them. In my mind i see some guy in front of his PC who's sad and angry. I would consider it fair game if he calls me names or whatever. But if it would really bother me that people have emotional reactions like this i simply wouldn't play in such a way.
If those in-game actions are allowed within the game then nobody should feel violated, if they do then they shouldn't be playing the game.
If you keep the verbal disagreements in character then there shouldn't be much of a problem. It's when you take them out of character such as referring to real life that you make it personal. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
142
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:20:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote: It's the internet. ....
15 years ago this might have been a valid point. The fact that people still use it is a bit sad. It shows three things:
1. kids are terrible people, though they're supposed to learn not to be from adults. 2. some supposed adults never evolve beyond childhood because of the lack of consequences of their actions. 3. 1 is not happening as well as it used to because of 3.
There is hope though:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/27/texas-teen-makes-violent-joke-during-video-game-is-jailed-for-months
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
336
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:22:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Victoria Sin wrote: It's the internet. ....
15 years ago this might have been a valid point. The fact that people still use it is a bit sad. It shows three things: 1. kids are terrible people, though they're supposed to learn not to be from adults. 2. some supposed adults never evolve beyond childhood because of the lack of consequences of their actions. 3. 1 is not happening as well as it used to because of 3. There is hope though: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/27/texas-teen-makes-violent-joke-during-video-game-is-jailed-for-months
Idk, I fail to see how such a drastic over-reaction to simple words means that there is hope for humanity. Whatever happened to "sticks and stones"?
I mean, unless adding /sarcasm is going to have be a law now, because people can't manage to comprehend it through text. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Demolishar
United Aggression
892
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:29:00 -
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If this is a serious post, it is quite sad.
Truly proof of how you can have everything - and nothing. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Clan Steel Wolves
230
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:29:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
. And you still wonder why... All of a sudden you become weak and suffer of depression when someone talks sh*it but at the same time you do horrible sh*t in game and expect others to....do what ? I guess what goes around, comes around...
So if a disabled person bluffs you in a hand of poker you'd go round the table and tip them our of their wheelchair? If not, then why would you get a clinically depressed person to kill themselves if they blew up your pixels?
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Adunh Slavy
1062
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:33:00 -
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8/10 |
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
152
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:35:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:If those in-game actions are allowed within the game then nobody should feel violated, if they do then they shouldn't be playing the game.
If you keep the verbal disagreements in character then there shouldn't be much of a problem. It's when you take them out of character such as referring to real life that you make it personal.
I completely agree with this on base of game rules and principle. Just trying to point something out to OP. Eve is not for the squemish. If OP is sincerely concerned about depressed and suicidal people then ganking, scamming or whatever is not gonna help their mental stability either. So drawing a line at these words seems a bit hypocritical to me from that perspective. It's a fact that many people will take it personaly what happens to them ingame. So i think either an Eve player in practical terms has to grow a bit of a thick skin or play nice irl and ingame.
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FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
40
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:46:00 -
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A well explained petition should do the trick. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
361
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Posted - 2013.06.30 02:05:00 -
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the world is a nasty place
and while we can't get rid of nastiness everywhere, it doesn't mean we have to tolerate it in our community.
I've been mean, I've definitely said things on the internet I shouldn't have, and when I've been reprimanded for it I realize my error in hindsight. It's funny how caught up you can get in the internet b.s. if you don't watch yourself.
When you petition people get warned, if they can't learn after that to keep the game in the game and RL in RL, then they will deservingly get banned and the community will be better for it.
I'll go one further. When I was a young kid I was a bully, it wasn't until I got much older that I realized just how *****y that was of me and helped me and thankfully I learned to mature and be a better person to the people around me. One thing bullies and internet ***** bags don't realize or want to admit to: They have serious problems they need to work out. Until they do they are toxic people and will spread that toxicity.. they'll say it's just good fun, they didn't mean it... it's all b.s.
I think this new generation (at least in my country) that is calling people out for their bullying is a great and under appreciated movement. The more of this that carries into the internet the better. We can be a mean people, but we don't need to be. And we don't need to sterilize our environment, but what we do need is to establish strict boundaries and enforce them.
The internet is a relatively new phenomenon and we are learning more and more that the anonymity and difficulty in interpreting intent and tone in written form ('not sure if srs' type of thing) can lead to a very toxic environment if we don't manage it responsibly
I don't think goonswarm embodies this or anything, but a lot of the grief play they do can sometime get real borderline and there is a part of their community (and many many others) that can't even recognize when they cross over the line. I use them as an example only! They are a diverse group and I don't think the majority of their players represent this. It's just a known stereotype I'm entertaining for an easily related example
so yeah, tl;dr, petition repeatedly until it gets the attention the EULA demands
tell people you want to hunt them down, destroy all their possessions and pod the crap out of them IN GAME. This game IS a game of violent conflict. But it should never go further than the game itself.
anything negative regarding RL simply shouldn't be tolerated.
*And that includes the metagame too, which is a whole other box of mess caused by people with serious personal mental/maturity problems. |
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
306
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Posted - 2013.06.30 02:33:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
I had today again for the 3rd time this month someone tell me to Kill myself in rl even describing how they wanted me to do it.
I just don't understand how some people can value a human life as so little, trying to push someone to kill themselves
I did the usual petition but im worried the GM's are not taking it seriously.
I just wanted to say before you think its funny to push someone to so something horrible to others or themselves , how would you feel if they actually did follow through with it and there blood was on your hands?
To be clear I suffer from depression, but I am Not suicidal
That said, after being told to kill myself it gets me sick to my stomach.
I am a part of a mental health community that has people far worse off then me which I have seen do desperate things when pushed into it.
I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out.
Just a thought, if you were nice and not annoy, AWOX, scam or whatever it is you do to **** people off MAYBE they would be kinder and not request your death by yourr own hands. Just sayin.......
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