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Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.30 20:10:00 -
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Minmatar have viable rocket/missile ships from the Breacher frigate all the way to the Typhoon Battleship now, yet Minmatar pilots can't get faction rockets/missiles from their own racial LP stores.
I'm not sure why Minmatar don't have "Republic Fleet" missiles yet but would love to hear an explanation.
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zbaaca
DetskiSide
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Posted - 2013.06.30 20:15:00 -
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be a real man , use dread guri missiles Bugs are opportunities to cause unprecedented amounts of destruction. --Zorgn |
Naomi Anthar
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Posted - 2013.06.30 20:21:00 -
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Actually ... i second this. There are Caldari navy hybrid charges, even tho missiles are thier primary weapons.
Republic Fleet Missiles should be there too . |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.06.30 20:23:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Actually ... i second this. There are Caldari navy hybrid charges, even tho missiles are thier primary weapons.
Republic Fleet Missiles should be there too .
Yep, Caldari get two types of ammo in their LP stores, why should Minmatar be left out? Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Mr Doctor
Los Polos Hermanos. Happy Cartel
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:18:00 -
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Because matar are a ragtag bunch of ragamuffins, Caldari are an industrial superpower with an organised navy. |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:06:00 -
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Mr Doctor wrote:Because matar are a ragtag bunch of ragamuffins, Caldari are an industrial superpower with an organised navy.
"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."
That is the description of the Nova Light Missile. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.07.01 08:24:00 -
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In on a hot 5-way (3F-2M) thread...
Also I support this idea and don't understand why it hasn't this been implemented. My Feature\Idea:-á Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee"
Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear Limitless Inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 08:53:00 -
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I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.
Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.
But I'd like this! |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.07.01 09:31:00 -
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Claire Raynor wrote:I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.
Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.
But I'd like this!
AT Missiles are great for when you're ECM'd to hell and can't fire. My Feature\Idea:-á Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee"
Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:14:00 -
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Claire Raynor wrote:I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.
Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.
But I'd like this!
FOF missiles were removed from Minmatar LP stores as far as I can tell.
Also, the Gallente and Amarr secondary weapon of choice would be drones. The problem is, right now we have one race that can get its primary and secondary weapon ammo from their own racial LP stores while nobody else does. If you don't want to give the other 3 races equal access then Caldari needs hybrid ammo removed from their LP stores. If I have to import my missiles from Caldari space, why don't they have to import their hybrid ammo from Gallente space?
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:24:00 -
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I wouldn't have a problem with Republic Fleet missiles just so long as they didn't have a boosted damage value over T1 missiles per Caldari Navy missiles. They should have a different bonus such as increased missile or explosion velocity or a reduced size so you can fit more into your launcher.
Faction ammo is fine as long as there's a difference between the factions' ammo. Too many faction mods are one size fits all with few like the split between Caldari Navy and Federation Navy railguns where the FN guns do more damage but the CN guns get better range. I'd like to see that sort of differentiation applied to more faction mods and ammo. |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:30:00 -
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FN and CN ammo are the same stats, I think Minmatar missiles should be a damage boost as well.
If you want to differentiate the turrets/launchers ok, but the ammo needs to be the same. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:36:00 -
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Minmatar already have the easiest fw missions out there when npcs use tracking disruptors against bombers^^. Or why do you think we had that winmatar farmer mess in inferno? Because everyone thought: we need minmatar tier5 because their missions are the easiest stuff in the universe. One year later and minmatar market still hasn-¦t recovered from that CCP joke called inferno. Really don-¦t think they need more advantages.
Ah and before somone tells me about usual lv4 missions in high sec: They don-¦t affect the market. The carebears in highsec need months to grab the lp a fw guy can grab in some hours. |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:43:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote: Really don-¦t think they need more advantages.
Last time I checked, Minmatar and Caldari aren't exactly best friends, would Russia use American missiles to arm their jets? Nope, just like Minmatar shouldn't have to use Caldari missiles for the same reason.
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Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:47:00 -
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Jen Ann Tonique wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote: Really don-¦t think they need more advantages.
Last time I checked, Minmatar and Caldari aren't exactly best friends, would Russia use American missiles to arm their jets? Nope, just like Minmatar shouldn't have to use Caldari missiles for the same reason.
I couldn-¦t remember that minmatards are hight tech dudes. They are still eating their meat uncooked because they have no clue how to make a fire and pray to Wilson the volleyball. And suddenly they can produce high tech missiles like caldari? JUST NO.
There are still so many imbalances that are pro minmatard (for example pirate factions^^) in this game that we really don-¦t need new ones.
Edit: Wiiiiiiiilsoooooooon! |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:07:00 -
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Jen Ann Tonique wrote:
"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."
That is the description of the Nova Light Missile.
Quoting myself for emphasis. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:17:00 -
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Jen Ann Tonique wrote:Jen Ann Tonique wrote:
"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."
That is the description of the Nova Light Missile.
Quoting myself for emphasis.
A musket is still related to a machine gun but crappy in comparison to it^^ |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:19:00 -
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+million
Also Khanid Navy missiles, please! |
Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:21:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:+million Also Khanid Navy missiles, please!
You can get a pink tutu, too.
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Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:25:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:+million Also Khanid Navy missiles, please!
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It's obvious we have some anti Minmatar issues to work through (otherwise why is this still even a thing right?) so one step at a time. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
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Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:26:00 -
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A better idea: Minmatar stones in lp store for festaival launcher^^ |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:30:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:You can get a pink tutu, too.
So, you're saying that Khanid engineers don't have blueprints to build missiles? Try to remember where they got those damn blueprints for missile systems in the first place...
Jen Ann Tonique wrote:Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It's obvious we have some anti Minmatar issues to work through (otherwise why is this still even a thing right?) so one step at a time.
Yeah, that "Hurricane does 800+ deeps! Nerf it!" is getting quite old already. |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:33:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:
Yeah, that "Hurricane does 800+ deeps! Nerf it!" is getting quite old already.
"Scissors is fine, nerf paper." - Rock.
Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:51:00 -
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Jen Ann Tonique wrote:FN and CN ammo are the same stats, I think Minmatar missiles should be a damage boost as well.
If you want to differentiate the turrets/launchers ok, but the ammo needs to be the same.
I don't see that just because the weapon systems differentiate (in this case the RF launchers take 15tf less CPU to fit but are otherwise inferior) that there's no reason or need for the ammo to differentiate either. Furthermore in this case you can't appreciably alter anything other than DPS for missiles, and at that you're doing it indirectly by altering the rate of fire and/or ammo capacity of the launchers. You can't make missiles faster or more suited to hitting smaller or faster targets by fiddling with the launcher as you can with turrets. |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:00:00 -
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If I pay the same price, I want the same DPS, and all faction ammo is a percentage increase to dps. How many people use CN hybrid guns over FN? Judging by the market price, not many. It's just not something that needs "fixed".
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:08:00 -
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More stuff for Winmatar ...
Ever notice, in sci-fi, the author's race, species or faction is always the most versatile? |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:16:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:More stuff for Winmatar ...
Ever notice, in sci-fi, the author's race, species or faction is always the most versatile?
Caldari use missiles and hybrid guns, have missiles and hybrid ammo in LP store.
Minmatar uses projectiles and missiles, has only projectile ammo in LP stores.
Which one is more versatile again? This isn't about making one better than another, it's about equality. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Colt Blackhawk
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
173
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:18:00 -
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Jen Ann Tonique wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:More stuff for Winmatar ...
Ever notice, in sci-fi, the author's race, species or faction is always the most versatile? Caldari use missiles and hybrid guns, have missiles and hybrid ammo in LP store. Minmatar uses projectiles and missiles, has only projectile ammo in LP stores. Which one is more versatile again? This isn't about making one better than another, it's about equality.
Take a look on amarr and gallente lp store :P |
Jen Ann Tonique
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:22:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Take a look on amarr and gallente lp store :P
I have used Gallente LP stores (love the Megathron) quite extensively, never noticed anything untoward going on. Can't say anything about Amarr though. Jen Ann Tonique does not approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms. |
Caljiav Ocanon
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:44:00 -
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Minmatar are obviously meant to have and use missiles, why can't I get my own ammo? Why am I forced to use the enemies ammo for my own faction equipment?
CCP please fix Though I fly through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am aligned to a safespot and warping out. - Me 2013 |
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