I'd call you a backseat driver, but you're not even in the car.

.If Kesper is a no show as it appears. It's none of our business? We should just wallow in our apathy?

You have no idea whatsoever if he's a no-show. Literally none. His posting activity on a forum is a tiny step above irrelevant.

Granted, I don't know if he's active or not either, but unlike you I haven't decided to act as if I do. If he's actually well and truly inactive without good reason, let the other sitting CSM members deal with it. They're the ones who will "suffer" by having a no-showing secretary.

You have no idea whatsoever if he's a no-show. Literally none. His posting activity on a forum is a tiny step above irrelevant.

You can have an opinion all you want, it's just when you decide that your opinion is fact and must be acted upon that you're going to have to be ready to hear things like "do you have proof?" or more pertinent to this thread "why should we listen to you? You're in no position to actually know what's up".

Kesper may well be 100% inactive. I don't know, and neither do you. Only one of us is pretending to know and demanding action based on that. Hint: It's not me.

I'll say this as simply as possible: When you make allegations, it's on you to prove them. If you don't have proof (which you don't), don't expect anyone to take your allegations seriously. You can vomit up as much half-digested HURR FUKKEN CFC word salad as you like, but it's not going to change the above. Prove your allegations or continue to be ignored by anyone other than the worst, most spergy **** posters like myself.

I'll get right on that. And disprove God and the Easter Bunny right after.

Short of drawing you a picture, I'm not sure what else there is to do. Every time I asked you to prove your allegation and you realizing you couldn't - every one of those times is when you maybe should have clued in to the fact that you can't ever prove a CSM's activity level, and thus have no place to accuse anyone. Instead you just keyed in on my alliance name and tried to turn it into some kind of damage control conspiracy thing instead of realizing that you were off base from the word go, and probably never should have made this stupid, stupid thread.

I can actually prove quite a few CSM's level of activity, or at least provide varying levels of evidence to support that they are in fact active. The fact that I can't for Kesper is what begs the question.

The only question it begs is "does a non-CSM member have enough information to determine whether or not a CSM member is truly active or not?".

(spoiler: The answer is "no")

You are right on one level. We cannot know for sure. That's why asking questions is a good idea. That is what I did.

You and Glen Beck, "just asking questions".

The CSM aren't immune from criticism, obviously. This thread isn't criticism, it's not just "asking questions", it's baseless muckracking. Trying to retroactively dress it up as you just being some kind of wannabe concerned citizen is straight-up pathetic.

I already asked a similar question to Ali, Mike, and Ripard a couple weeks ago. Here's what they said

get a room, you two.

1) SOME of us ran on a communication with the players platform but, if memory serves, we ran individually, not as a cohesive bloc so stop calling us the communicative CSM.

2) SOME of us are doing a good job of keeping our personal campaign promises and chatting with you in various media.

3) A FEW of us are hip deep in a major war.

Guess where Kesper falls in that above list

Given the usual NDA disclaimer there is only so much we can say without either stepping on CCP toes or repeating ourselves and repeating ourselves. I'd like to think that we are getting that message out there on a fairly regular basis.

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Kesper made a brief but content rich appearance on the latest Declarations of War as well

Trebor has worked his ass off spending time with all of us to get us up to speed on CCP's orgs, processes and quirks. Ripard took over the "outward facing" part of the role, and he's been pretty active with the communication.

The responsibilities of the Chairman and Vice-Chairman are to handle official communications between the CSM and CCP, and they are expected to be particularly active in interacting with the community.

Well we had the discussion early on and reached an agreement about delegating areas of responsibility according to our capabilities and areas of interest. It seems to be working pretty well so I'm not even sure what the problem is?

If no outward communication was taking place, then it would be Treb's repsonsibility to make it happen (and it is; he's done his job in that respect) - It's not necessary that he himself is on the hook for making every last bit of day to day communication or even any of it, as long as he's assured that he's delegated that job out. We're more than happy to take over that task in order to free him up to do the work that yields the greatest value to the team. The White Paper can't forsee every contingency and combination, and we treat it as a guide rather than a hard and fast set of unbendable rules. The next CSM might have good reason to adopt a more rigid, formal approach; that will be up to them.

Luckily, CSM8 has so far been boringly crisis-free (as I told you to expect). Should that happen to change, you could reasonably expect to see Trebor taking a more active public role.

I can't complain about the lack of communication, that's for sure.

But from my perspective it just seemed pointless to elect someone as chairman who they knew would not actually fill that role.

Kind of like appointing someone as the secretary because of there brilliant cooking skills.

But well lets be honest the whole thing really doesn't matter.

He's earning his keep. That's all that counts.