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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
56
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:21:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.
Oh, please. I'm sure you were a new kid in school and you got picked on. It also gauges intelligence a bit. Someone knew should be looking into the word of others and learn how mechanics work in this game.
Those that don't lose their miners to Battle Bestowers. How may I drug you with drugs? |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
10
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:28:00 -
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So what if it's comparable to bullying kids at school? The OP was right that it was a mafiosa type operation.
Despite the fact that this may stop me mining ice for the moment I do have to applaud their initiative. Now, as a miner I have two choices; buckle under or do something about it.
What I won't be doing is whining about it.
So what if the price of ice goes up? Does that mean I have to continue mining or do I go into trading? Or do I do something about this mafia family who are offering protection?
Love this game, I do. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:28:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:(Side note: If you don't want to get ganked, tank up and ice mine in a battle ship) I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:29:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Battle On wrote:i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy? First of all, there never was a safe heaven. That said, second, you deserve that this happens to you, because. Third ... it's EvE. Playing "casual", "safe" and "leave me alone" doesn't work. Advise ? Connect with your friends, if you have any. Connect to groups. Then connect to corps. Then connect these corps to an alliance. You either defend yourself or die in a big ball of fire. The choice is yours. Welcome to EvE online. (which you probably never really played anyway) PS: No other choices given. You have no right to demand safety. Just because you never really played this game, doesn't mean others can't play it WITH YOU THE WAY THEY WANT TO ! Your "life" in EvE lies within your responsibility. Man up or die. Good luck. :) Edit: "Battle On" is a rather ironic name for a miner...
I like your thinking..
What is so called "rights" Made up by man/can change anytime/illusion .. all three are positive i guess
Only "right" you got is to adapt/follow/play by the rules made up by someone far more powerful( which is the case for last 6 thousand years or so( oltho power is something which doesnt really grasp the reality(meaningless)))
To the topic tho
Teaming up with your friend solve exactly nothing, thats truth. Even if you got shield and armor chains straight to your mackinaw it will mean that the gankers will simply sit alpha you. Thats the truth. Is it bad? Is it good? i guess the right answer to it is : It just is.
Nothing more nothing less, moral relativity is nice and can be discussed but will change nothing apart the fact that you can either approve the message its "wrong" or defend the message "its right" both camps are just the same, neither of them can just live without their moreal stands and neither of them will never accept the stand of the other one.
Is Mass murder good or bad/right or wrong/good or evil ...
Depend on circumstances.
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Tanya Fox
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:29:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:These are the inevitable outcomes:
* CCP will step in and change the way Concord works to better respond to ganking (permanent ice belt patrols with improved AI) * CCP will intervene in the market and render the ganking largely ineffective * CCP will change the way ice is distributed, spreading it out much further and making it impossible to fully camp (likely) * CCP will change POS fuel requirements as part of their announced POS logistics change (also likely) * CCP will realize the ice mining concept is terribly flawed and redesign it into soemthing not broken (not as likely) * CCP will drastically increase tank of industrials (simplest, most boring solution) * Goons will grow bored of the effort or need to reassign resources, will announce "success" and end the blockade
One of those things iwll happen in the coming months. Personally, I'd like ice to be removed and replaced by something that isn't so tedious as to REQUIRE bots (or stupid people) to be the only ones mining it. This is the inevitable outcome: * CCP will do nothing.
Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.
Correct me if I'm wrong there :) |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:29:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Teamosil wrote:IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.
One of the reasons why we like doing it. Because it's pathetic, sad, and just straight up funny.
The only reason to play the game tbh. |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:30:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:(Side note: If you don't want to get ganked, tank up and ice mine in a battle ship) I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Lots of Crisco. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:31:00 -
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Tanya Fox wrote:Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.
Correct me if I'm wrong there :) None of the Goon employees lost their job.
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:32:00 -
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Tanya Fox wrote:Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.
Correct me if I'm wrong there :) Just because pubbies wish for certain things to happen doesn't mean it will. You're basically asking them to turn on invulnerability mode which they will not do. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
46
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:37:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:[ I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up" CSM do you think? No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1170
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:38:00 -
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if CCP wanted ice mining to be safe there would be ice fields above .7 sec |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:43:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:[ I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up" There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.
The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.
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Tanya Fox
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:44:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.
What do you expect, they're the Goons.
Nice one Brick Squad, btw |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:46:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:[ I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up" There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest. The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.
You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.
Just saying. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:47:00 -
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Tanya Fox wrote:Nice one Brick Squad, btw For some reason Brick Squad has become very interested in highsec mechanics lately. I expect to see Level 4 mission guides at EN24 any day now...
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Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:48:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:[ I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up" There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest. The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic. You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach. Just saying. So you're saying that a month ago it would have been normal to see that setup?
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1170
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:48:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:[ I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up" There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest. The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic. You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach. Just saying.
this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
357
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:52:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:56:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Weaselior wrote:this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts Eve is Real MANGGG. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:56:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Weaselior wrote:this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts
There is non. As in real life there is no sense only an illusion which you create yourself / not likely or you adapt to illusion given.
Stay strong in your belief since thats the only thing which defines you .
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Vaffel Junior
NorCorp Security
66
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:57:00 -
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Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:59:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. People have tried and failed. What do you expect to be any different now? |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
357
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:00:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1170
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:05:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland..
vfk billy merc[/] ice miners always get [s]his theirs, coming August, (year undefined) |
Vaffel Junior
NorCorp Security
66
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:06:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them. Shadoo was on vacation then |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:08:00 -
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Battle On wrote:miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine
I can't believe you put so many words in such a terrible troll |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:09:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them. Shadoo was on vacation then He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:12:00 -
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Battle On wrote:Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money. 250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill. also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks. the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec? i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy? so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?
In what I'm concerned I used to mine some stuff afk while doing serious business in null (aka pew pew)
Now anomalies got nerfed and my income is just crap since I don't have the billions for spec or something alike, and then I can't put my miner doing some stuff to cover my losses (mostly clone insurance and ammo other stuff the insurance +reimbursement doesn't cover
This just means I play less, and pew pew even less because the time I'm on line I spend it grinding mostly.
Ganking is part of the game, I'm ok with that. It's up to people to reinforce/protect their own assets but has some people here I'm not in front of my computer all day and this is becoming really annoying for my fun in game indirectly so, rather than grind for hours just for some isk, I spend more on playing other stuff where I have fun for sure for the time I can aloud to spend playing, meaning I pew pew less and getting bored more easily than ever when I'm connected. |
Vaffel Junior
NorCorp Security
66
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:13:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them. Shadoo was on vacation then He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.
So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ?
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Karadion wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:Protip to ice miners..... Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them. Shadoo was on vacation then He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc. So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ? Currently at the moment, they can hotdrop on top of us with 70 titans or whatever they're fielding against a bunch of maelstroms but I think they fear the welpfleet more so they stopped doing hotdrops. |
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