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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.04 03:12:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I say we form up a massive fleet of Guardians, get a proper cap chain going and rep the Jita 4-4 statue so CCP can put it back to the way it was. All in the name of improving WiS! You should definitely get on that ASAP, all 12 of you.
You love to hate dont you pal. The WIS project will be deliverd as promiss and this game need some change. You think eve online will become world of warcraft? sinds when do you think like a 6 year old ati/nvidia raging fanboy? I think what ccp is doing know is pussing this game so far that we can say eve is more than a space game alone. people are always afread of change... |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.03.04 03:52:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I say we form up a massive fleet of Guardians, get a proper cap chain going and rep the Jita 4-4 statue so CCP can put it back to the way it was. All in the name of improving WiS! You should definitely get on that ASAP, all 12 of you. You love to hate dont you pal. The WIS project will be deliverd as promiss and this game need some change. You think eve online will become world of warcraft? sinds when do you think like a 6 year old ati/nvidia raging fanboy? I think what ccp is doing know is pussing this game so far that we can say eve is more than a space game alone. people are always afread of change...
Nope, I got no problem with WIS as long as FIS does not suffer again for :18 months: or more during WIS and emo vampire MMO side-venture development.
If CCP can create meaningful and compelling gameplay beyond vanity avatar dress-up and mini-games for WIS that fits in with FIS that actually affects the overall EVE universe, CCP will have something worth promoting and beating their chests about, and it will very likely flourish.
What I have a problem with are players who insist that WIS is a "jesus feature" that everyone wants, and who claim WIS is a panacea, and that it needs to be a PVE WoW-like playground without the same PVP risks that FIS has now.
Also, I have a problem with the daily bleating and foot-stamping in the forums that the dozen or so militant pro-WIS players have been doing since CCP's refocus on FIS because they think CCP is ignoring WIS when CCP is just trying to save their company, their livelihood, and the game we all play and enjoy now. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.04 04:54:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
if WiS creates an eviroment where people no longer need to undock, then the game will suffer.
Why? Is it that you feel if they don't have to, then they just won't undock? That's just stupid thinking. You don't need to undock now for a lot of stuff and it's been that way since day one. Here's the thing, though. Even though you need never undock to play many aspects of this game, PLENTY OF PEOPLE STILL DO!! Why in the world you FIS only losers are so afraid of EVE becoming the true sandbox it was meant to be is beyond me.
Someone please give a coherent reason for this bizarre attitude and I will die a happy man.
Mr Epeen because wis as of now has no meaningful gameplay, it is beyond me how some people consider a few dudes emoting each other in a room is gameplay. wis as of now is frivolous, useless, and unseemly. meaningful gameplay = you kill or get killed / you gain or lose isk or inflict isk loss on someone else / you feel compelled to invest skill training to do x more proficiently and etc. the dev posts about potential of combat, smuggling is all fine but it seems the devs are having trouble defining it and fitting it in the greater game-ecology of eve and that is ok, it takes time.
the problem is, that there people, like slit eyes isslers here who immediately replied to the dev, like some ingrate, "oh forget all that epic gameplay, it will take too long, just give us a room to emote with now." this basically means that they yet again want ccp to rush out some more useless, incomplete crap, like they learned nothing from the failures of incarna 1.0. One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
919
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Posted - 2012.03.04 05:02:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
if WiS creates an eviroment where people no longer need to undock, then the game will suffer.
Why? Is it that you feel if they don't have to, then they just won't undock? That's just stupid thinking. You don't need to undock now for a lot of stuff and it's been that way since day one. Here's the thing, though. Even though you need never undock to play many aspects of this game, PLENTY OF PEOPLE STILL DO!! Why in the world you FIS only losers are so afraid of EVE becoming the true sandbox it was meant to be is beyond me.
Someone please give a coherent reason for this bizarre attitude and I will die a happy man.
Mr Epeen because wis as of now has no meaningful gameplay, it is beyond me how some people consider a few dudes emoting each other in a room is gameplay. wis as of now is frivolous, useless, and unseemly. meaningful gameplay = you kill or get killed / you gain or lose isk or inflict isk loss on someone else / you feel compelled to invest skill training to do x more proficiently and etc. the dev posts about potential of combat, smuggling is all fine but it seems the devs are having trouble defining it and fitting it in the greater game-ecology of eve and that is ok, it takes time. the problem is, that there people, like slit eyes isslers here who immediately replied to the dev, like some ingrate, "oh forget all that epic gameplay, it will take too long, just give us a room to emote with now." this basically means that they yet again want ccp to rush out some more useless, incomplete crap, like they learned nothing from the failures of incarna 1.0.
Which part of coherent did you not understand?
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.04 06:09:00 -
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i know you like taking loads but most people wipe off their eyes before they crust over. One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Zsamael
Dark Ghost Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.03.04 11:56:00 -
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Just my 14 pence... CCP we're fuly focused on bringing us WiS and "letting us out of that door" but then.. one dark night they realised they made a game about spaceships not about bears buying each other virtual drinks in virtual bars. Frankly the whole WiS thing doesn't really appeal to me at all as probably 90%+ of the time I'm out in space in a spaceship doing stuff that spacemen do!... Not walking a space barbie round in circles thinking "I wish I could open that door over there!". A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go |
Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
75
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Posted - 2012.03.04 12:28:00 -
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Quoting myself shamelessly:
Camios wrote:In my opinion me the problem of creating meaningful and replayable gameplay lies in the spaceship-centric nature of EVE. Anything related to trade, industry and spaceships can be done more efficiently from our pods, so tell me for what reason we should exit the pod. The idea of gambling is good but we can already gamble with EOH poker and such. Anything regarding social interaction can be done through chat and voice. In my opinion, apart from completely new gameplay options, people could be encouraged to exit the pod if, for example
- Exiting your pod gives a boost to the charisma attribute;
- Talking to an agent in person (face to face) could give you better standings (so that you can use better agents) or gives you a boost in LP pay;
- when contacting the LP store going there by your feet you could receive some discounts
- when talking to a broker face to face you are more likely to get a discount on market taxes
And stuff like this. Of course, when people are not in a pod they need to be fed, and here comes the importance of extablishments, food and drink.
- While you can have some benefits, staying out of the pod for long could reduce the effect of some of your skills.
- You could get less precise planetary scans,
- You might look less smart to agents and brokers and then they will be less interested in talking to you.
To recover from thie status, either you re enter your pod and slowly they will get back to normal (but you'll lose the benefit of being out of the capsule), or consume food and drink and recover instantly.
- If you offer an agent a drink you *could* get a better pay. Or if he/she's a locator agent he will hurry up to give you the results next time. Or maybe he/she *could* tell you where to find an officer spawn in the next 10 minutes. Of course the agent will just accept a drink from a person at a time, so there will be competition over that.
Player interaction can be more difficult to trigger. But I think that with a solid base of things to do, player interaction will happen around these things.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.03.04 17:54:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:People still think this sandbox..this market simulator, is only about flying in space? *sigh* It's time to move past that and realize the dream of an integrated science fiction future sim that was originally envisioned by the creators of this fine, but lacking game. Mr Epeen do you realize that a of people are not about that vision, they are just a bunch of lispers wanting to compare pants and emote each other? Why are all the current goons so obsessed with pants, when I was in the goons pants hardly ever were discussed! Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate What alt did you have in goons? Was it a goon alt or a member corp alt?
Tada O was a member of the goon alliance for about 6 months, just before the goons went to null for the first time. They were in a pretty ugly war towards the end and the then leader said corps like us were welcome to leave and come back after the war. Half of us wanted to stay and we created a second corporation to fight in the war the goons were in at the moment (The Freespacer Confederation) but most of the members of that corp were in the military and stopped playing when they were deployed.
By the time the goons had the war in hand and were making their way in null we decided to be one of the founding corps of BRUCE and we moved to Syndicate. One part of the reason we grew unhappy with BRUCE and started friction with primary BRUCE leadership is BRUCE wouldn't "blue" the goons.
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Balthizarr
Eve Engineering Explorations Eve Engineering
7
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Posted - 2012.03.04 19:04:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.
So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.
DO NOT ABANDON WiS!! LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!
Issler
I for one agrees with you,
I understand CCP's reasoning for doing a 180 from WIS to all out FIS but it would be good if they at least continued to build on the CQ they've already given us, i'm not expecting them to throw open the door to the station but it would be nice to have a few more things to interact with IE being able to lay down on the bed or put something in that allows you to choose what you want to look at on the TV instead of the continual looping feeds. Maybe allowing you to surf the web using the monitors as if your char was doing it. Just a thought.
I'm sure there will be someone that will come back saying that making these chances will wreak the game cos some dev's arn't making ships we can fly but seeing as Eve is a sandbox and not a 100% flying in space game IE WE CAN AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DOCK IN STATIONS these changes won't wreak anything, they will just give you something to play with whilst docked, something your not forced to play with as we now have a nifty little button meaning anyone not wanting to use CQ doesn't have too.
Basically people buy eve to fly ships in space and no matter how interesting they make WIS pilots will still undock so you can pod them so whats the big deal?
That arguments to kill WIS is as stupid as everyone living in high sec wanting low and Null sec took out of the game cos they never use it. Personal i thank CCP for there continued development of the game and as long as they think before they implement masive changes and like now try and add improvements across the bored, instead of fixating on one part at a time they'll always have my backing. |
Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.03.04 23:27:00 -
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Not bad ideas. That way if you want you can stay in your pod but you will get less then person that do that same thing on foot. |
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Snowulf Romanov
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1
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Posted - 2012.03.05 02:57:00 -
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Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Not bad ideas. That way if you want you can stay in your pod but you will get less then person that do that same thing on foot.
It's not a bad idea, but there would definitely need to be a way to walk/run faster than we do now. If there wasn't, most of your time would be eaten by walking around the station instead of actually doing missions. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.03.05 03:33:00 -
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Zsamael wrote:Just my 14 pence... CCP we're fuly focused on bringing us WiS and "letting us out of that door" but then.. one dark night they realised they made a game about spaceships not about bears buying each other virtual drinks in virtual bars. Frankly the whole WiS thing doesn't really appeal to me at all as probably 90%+ of the time I'm out in space in a spaceship doing stuff that spacemen do!... Not walking a space barbie round in circles thinking "I wish I could open that door over there!".
CCP kieron wrote: To those voicing concerns this will create tremendous amounts of lag for the players in space, is a waste of resources, etc., please keep in mind that PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to the entire player base and different players enjoy different things. A number of players have asked for something along these lines since launch, and we have an opportunity to invest time in this technology for future projects.
As t0rfi stated in the blog, if this is not something you wish to take part in, you will not be forced to do so. You will still have the option to use the current interface for all station services and will not have to use the out of pod interface.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.03.05 03:55:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Zsamael wrote:Just my 14 pence... CCP we're fuly focused on bringing us WiS and "letting us out of that door" but then.. one dark night they realised they made a game about spaceships not about bears buying each other virtual drinks in virtual bars. Frankly the whole WiS thing doesn't really appeal to me at all as probably 90%+ of the time I'm out in space in a spaceship doing stuff that spacemen do!... Not walking a space barbie round in circles thinking "I wish I could open that door over there!". CCP kieron wrote: To those voicing concerns this will create tremendous amounts of lag for the players in space, is a waste of resources, etc., please keep in mind that PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to the entire player base and different players enjoy different things. A number of players have asked for something along these lines since launch, and we have an opportunity to invest time in this technology for future projects.
As t0rfi stated in the blog, if this is not something you wish to take part in, you will not be forced to do so. You will still have the option to use the current interface for all station services and will not have to use the out of pod interface.
So, this quotation still does not back-up your "MAJORITY of EVE players" claim you keep making. It simply states a "number of players".
How many players is that exactly? What can you show us that quantifies a number?
/In before your next Ad hominem.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.03.05 04:03:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Zsamael wrote:Just my 14 pence... CCP we're fuly focused on bringing us WiS and "letting us out of that door" but then.. one dark night they realised they made a game about spaceships not about bears buying each other virtual drinks in virtual bars. Frankly the whole WiS thing doesn't really appeal to me at all as probably 90%+ of the time I'm out in space in a spaceship doing stuff that spacemen do!... Not walking a space barbie round in circles thinking "I wish I could open that door over there!". CCP kieron wrote: To those voicing concerns this will create tremendous amounts of lag for the players in space, is a waste of resources, etc., please keep in mind that PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to the entire player base and different players enjoy different things. A number of players have asked for something along these lines since launch, and we have an opportunity to invest time in this technology for future projects.
As t0rfi stated in the blog, if this is not something you wish to take part in, you will not be forced to do so. You will still have the option to use the current interface for all station services and will not have to use the out of pod interface.
So, this quotation still does not back-up your "MAJORITY of EVE players" claim you keep making. It simply states a "number of players". How many players is that exactly? What can you show us that quantifies a number? /In before your next Ad hominem.
How about you show me a number that proves me wrong, you can't can you.
How about you stop wasting our time asking for something it would take a CCP survey to understand, realize you have no idea about numbers, all we have is impressions and make your reasoned case against ambulation. Oh, and with proof.
How about this, I've seen the number and its 72.3444456543333321346 percent in favor of Eve. Unfortunately a nondisclosure won't allow me to share the source..... so you prove me wrong.
Issler
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.03.05 04:22:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
How about you show me a number that proves me wrong, you can't can you.
Notwithstanding your white-knighting, I don't need to, I've never made any claims to the contrary. I've simply asked for supporting evidence for the claims made by DeMichael Crimson. This would refer to the "MAJORITY of players want WIS" assertion he keeps spouting as fact in this and other threads.
Common fallacy: proving non-existence : when an arguer cannot provide the evidence for his claims, he may challenge his opponent to prove it doesn't exist (e.g., prove God doesn't exist; prove UFO's haven't visited earth, etc.). The proof of existence must come from those who make the claims.
As I already explained to him, it would be a very good idea if he did not want to be called-out for making stuff up, he should perhaps pose his statements as opinions in the future to avoid being asked these pesky questions that serve to illustrate he simply makes stuff up to suit his agenda. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Hai Boiz
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.05 04:59:00 -
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People like to chit chat.
They do it at home. They do it at work. And they do it in eve-o. People have been chatting in this thread alone for months and months and 170 pages.
Some like to chat while flying in space. Some like to chat while spinning their ship. I'd like to sit across from someone in a station and chat. Why would a ship spinner want to deny me that little pleasure? Let me have a guest over for a nice quaffe and a little quality conversation.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.05 04:59:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2#59 post #58 GTFO DMC you desperate worthless lisping troll that post is from 2006, and the "optional" part about incarna didn't really work out so well did it?
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.03.05 06:07:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Doc Fury wrote:So, this quotation still does not back-up your "MAJORITY of EVE players" claim you keep making. It simply states a "number of players".
How many players is that exactly? What can you show us that quantifies a number?
/In before your next Ad hominem. How about you show me a number that proves me wrong, you can't can you. How about you stop wasting our time asking for something it would take a CCP survey to understand, realize you have no idea about numbers, all we have is impressions and make your reasoned case against ambulation. Oh, and with proof. How about this, I've seen the number and its 72.3444456543333321346 percent in favor of Eve. Unfortunately a nondisclosure won't allow me to share the source..... so you prove me wrong. Issler
Issler, I already addressed it here. He keeps asking for exact numbers along with saying my statement is incorrect. He obviously didn't look at the links I posted and just continues beating his chest and stomping his feet crying 'Ad hominem' without providing any contrary proof to back up his accusation.
Yes that was a post from 2006 and it still holds true even today. I don't know what game you're playing but CQ is indeed optional.
By the way, that link was included with this link: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1469548
Those were posted to illustrate the general viewpoint regarding WiS Ambulation before the Summer of Rage.
Now for your attack - The only desperate worthless lisping troll around here is you. You constantly keep spouting that crap which makes me think you're nothing more than a miserable little immature homophobic pre-pubbie punk. Take your own advice and GTFO. While you're at it FO-ES-BATMAD.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.03.05 06:16:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Stuff
Absent a valid answer to an argument you are predictably reduced to the ad homenim again.
I have made no accusations or taken a position one way or another no matter how much you read that into my request for factual information. I have simply asked for your evidence to back up your assertions that a MAJORITY (i.e. 51% or more) of EVE players want WIS, and you have still not provided anything other than "proving non-existence" and "ad homenim" fallacies. You did provide a couple of links to irrelevant information, but if somewhere in there it actually states that a MAJORITY of players want WIS I am just not seeing it. "A number of players" could be 1, 2, or it could be 10000. Who's to say? Not you or me. Where is your proof exactly? EVE has over 300K accounts and maybe 10% post on the forums (guessing).
Anything else you think I am doing or saying only exists in your mind. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.05 06:44:00 -
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lol nice "NO YOU" reply there lispy yeah incarna was optional when it first came out, load it or look at the door? it finally become truly optional after a tremendous amount of rage, the playerbase had to tell ccp "dong fock wit me mang". that we don't appreciate your little gestures. stop acting like nothing has changed in the viewpoints of the players/ccp management/devs on wis since 6 years ago, after the long wait, after the failures of incarna 1.0, and the summer of rage. as seen in the recent dev blog, you know the one written this year not 6 years ago,the one that says wis is on "slow burn" while them devs try to figure out some meaningful gameplay for it. so put your rocket away buddy boy i don't want to see it. One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
320
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Posted - 2012.03.05 07:57:00 -
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Hai Boiz wrote:People like to chit chat.
They do it at home. They do it at work. And they do it in eve-o. People have been chatting in this thread alone for months and months and 170 pages.
Some like to chat while flying in space. Some like to chat while spinning their ship. I'd like to sit across from someone in a station and chat. Why would a ship spinner want to deny me that little pleasure? Let me have a guest over for a nice quaffe and a little quality conversation.
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As I've pointed out several times, social gameplay is the mother of emergent gameplay. It needs a minimal investment in infrastructure and can keep players amused like forever. Just hand out some tools and allow people use them. Organized gameplay is cool to have, NPC interaction is cool, but from a cost/profit POV there is nothing as effective as just let people interact through avatars. Throw in some "hologram" technology so they're not forced to be aboard the same station and ther you go. Now add some advantages to physically being there (I already suggested stuff like kissing, caressing, punching, slapping... or dancing, if CCP were up to a tough ball; i've been iterating on the dance concept and I am figuring ways so two players can syncronize their moves within EVE's 1 second server frames... I don't mean "hit dance emote, do silly moves", rather "press the right keys at the right time so the server is fed the right "combos" from both sides at the right time and plays the right animation... in my limited knowledge, nobody ever tried that online...)
Err, to the point, there are lots of things that can be done as tools for friendly social interaction. If someone wants avatar PvP, they may have it, as long as it is not shoved down the throat of every player. Stations are griefing free zones and should stay like that. The worst that can happen in a station is being scammed and that must stay like that. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Qin Shi Huang
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.03.05 08:23:00 -
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I'm surprised that this thread is still alive - stop beating a dead horse already. The Door is shut and bolted. . |
Jerec Bratt
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.03.05 08:34:00 -
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Quote:I'm surprised that this thread is still alive - stop beating a dead horse already. The Door is shut and bolted. Guess you failed to read the devblog on WiS. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.05 09:20:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
As I've pointed out several times, social gameplay is the mother of emergent gameplay. It needs a minimal investment in infrastructure and can keep players amused like forever. Just hand out some tools and allow people use them. Organized gameplay is cool to have, NPC interaction is cool, but from a cost/profit POV there is nothing as effective as just let people interact through avatars. Throw in some "hologram" technology so they're not forced to be aboard the same station and ther you go. Now add some advantages to physically being there (I already suggested stuff like kissing, caressing, punching, slapping... or dancing, if CCP were up to a tough ball; i've been iterating on the dance concept and I am figuring ways so two players can syncronize their moves within EVE's 1 second server frames... I don't mean "hit dance emote, do silly moves", rather "press the right keys at the right time so the server is fed the right "combos" from both sides at the right time and plays the right animation... in my limited knowledge, nobody ever tried that online...)
Err, to the point, there are lots of things that can be done as tools for friendly social interaction. If someone wants avatar PvP, they may have it, as long as it is not shoved down the throat of every player. Stations are griefing free zones and should stay like that. The worst that can happen in a station is being scammed and that must stay like that.
heh plagiarizing my signature One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Qin Shi Huang
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.03.05 09:41:00 -
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Jerec Bratt wrote:Quote:I'm surprised that this thread is still alive - stop beating a dead horse already. The Door is shut and bolted. Guess you failed to read the devblog on WiS.
DEV blogs are science fiction. I'll believe it when I see a Roadmap or the Product Backlog - alternatively the patch notes. . |
Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.03.05 12:22:00 -
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Snowulf Romanov wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Not bad ideas. That way if you want you can stay in your pod but you will get less then person that do that same thing on foot. It's not a bad idea, but there would definitely need to be a way to walk/run faster than we do now. If there wasn't, most of your time would be eaten by walking around the station instead of actually doing missions.
Please NO RUNNING. It will look like WoW all ppl running around. And it is not anything like IRL. Give us something like Segway. It would look nice. And ppl would be faster. |
Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 12:25:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:
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Absent a valid answer to an argument you are predictably reduced to the ad homenim again. I have made no accusations or taken a position one way or another no matter how much you read that into my request for factual information. I have simply asked for your evidence to back up your assertions that a MAJORITY (i.e. 51% or more) of EVE players want WIS, and you have still not provided anything other than "proving non-existence" and "ad homenim" fallacies. You did provide a couple of links to irrelevant information, but if somewhere in there it actually states that a MAJORITY of players want WIS I am just not seeing it. "A number of players" could be 1, 2, or it could be 10000. Who's to say? Not you or me. Where is your proof exactly? EVE has over 300K accounts and maybe 10% post on the forums (guessing). Anything else you think I am doing or saying only exists in your mind.
And where is your evidence that "MAJORITY (i.e. 51% or more) of EVE players" do not want WIS? Its easy to attack somebody without any evidence in your favor. |
Raneru
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
30
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:05:00 -
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Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Snowulf Romanov wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Not bad ideas. That way if you want you can stay in your pod but you will get less then person that do that same thing on foot. It's not a bad idea, but there would definitely need to be a way to walk/run faster than we do now. If there wasn't, most of your time would be eaten by walking around the station instead of actually doing missions. Please NO RUNNING. It will look like WoW all ppl running around. And it is not anything like IRL. Give us something like Segway. It would look nice. And ppl would be faster.
Running where running is needed I'd say. In your quarters/friendly station, no. While exploring an abandoned station in a mission and something jumps out at you, yes!
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:35:00 -
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Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Doc Fury wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Stuff
Absent a valid answer to an argument you are predictably reduced to the ad homenim again. I have made no accusations or taken a position one way or another no matter how much you read that into my request for factual information. I have simply asked for your evidence to back up your assertions that a MAJORITY (i.e. 51% or more) of EVE players want WIS, and you have still not provided anything other than "proving non-existence" and "ad homenim" fallacies. You did provide a couple of links to irrelevant information, but if somewhere in there it actually states that a MAJORITY of players want WIS I am just not seeing it. "A number of players" could be 1, 2, or it could be 10000. Who's to say? Not you or me. Where is your proof exactly? EVE has over 300K accounts and maybe 10% post on the forums (guessing). Anything else you think I am doing or saying only exists in your mind. And where is your evidence that " MAJORITY (i.e. 51% or more) of EVE players" do not want WIS? Its easy to attack somebody without any evidence in your favor.
I don't claim to have any evidence and have not stated that is my position. I've attacked no one and have simply asked for proof, pointing out when he evades the question or spouts-off one of his typical ad hominems. I'd just like to see his evidence since he likes to lecture others so often about this supposed "majority". If he does not have any evidence, he could admit that it is his opinion and that he does not have any actual evidence and that would suffice. He made a claim, I did not. Trying to shift the burden of non-proof to others as you are now also attempting to do is a fallacy.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.05 20:21:00 -
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Qin Shi Huang wrote:I'm surprised that this thread is still alive - stop beating a dead horse already. The Door is shut and bolted.
You should be shut and bolted. |
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