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Azahni Vah'nos
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.07 10:24:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:I think a lot of it comes from expecting to pay for something thatGÇÖs otherwise free. I think it seems like that very much when youGÇÖre a player, although a lot of this stuff wouldnGÇÖt actually exist if we didnGÇÖt have a revenue stream to make it. So, when you have people that do clothing and all that stuff, you donGÇÖt hire them because you have an abundance of money. You hire them because youGÇÖre hoping that will keep itself running. And I think a lot of players expect that clothing would be made free, but the truth is that the five-to-ten artists you hire for this actually get paid through [virtual goods sales].
I think some people also feel that the subscription is enough. Even though buying virtual goods is strictly voluntary, they kind of feel like itGÇÖs something they should be buying. And theyGÇÖve already spent their 15 bucks, so theyGÇÖre like GÇ£Why am I being forced to buy this?GÇ¥ I completely understand that sentiment. I think if people have complaints you should listen and respect their opinion. Honesly Soundwave's complete ignorance is starting to show. A few thoughts based on his comments.
* Based on his theory then the new ships should appear in the NEX Store because CCP needed people to design and produce them. * Should we be charged for the new nebulae's as didn't CCP get in someone to consult with them to make they were correctly done. * So CCP outsourced the design of clothing thinking that would be a good idea. * Why were designers highered that have (let's face facts here) no idea how to create clothes that even remotely match the EVE universe. Did these people read any of the EVE lore, I think not. * Why were the clothes, etc not delivered within the game via sandbox gameplay, or better yet with any gamplay at all. * 5-10 artists with zero imagination. CCP must have scoured the fashion industry to find that many crap designers. * Soundwave does know about PLEX, doesn't he. * His attempts at justification fall very short, he needs to do a marketing/sales course because he's failing miserably at the moment to sell people pure bs.
I for one expected clothing, etc to be integrated into the game via worthwhile gameplay that adds value to EVE and kept both CCP and the playerbase happy about it's inclusion. Instead Soundwave seems to think the playerbase should be happy by the way it has been done, which is in direct opposition to the sandbox game that is EVE.
You know if Soundwave and CCP really cared for EVE then they would have had the players themselves submit designs and just have one person at CCP proofing and prioritizing the designs. Now that would have added something to the game, further involving the playerbase and could of been used in a similar fashion as the design a ship contest. No outside designer knows the game and the lore better than the players themselves.
CCP got so many things wrong with what should have been a fundemental expansion to the gamplay of EVE. Instead they cheapened WiS in favour of what? chasing microtransactions on top of PLEX. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:27:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: Ideas for WiS game play content has already been posted numerous times within this thread but you still don't want to acknowledge it. Seems all you really want to do is continuously berate and belittle anyone who posts a positive viewpoint about WiS.
There is nothing to aknowledge when it comes to wet dreams by those that shed tears over WiS. DeMichael Crimson wrote:Your character was created on 2009.10.21which makes your statement a lie. Either that or you lack the courage to post with your main character. What about you? Isn't your character an alt as well? As you say, Alpheias was created more than a year ago. But my account was created in May 6th 2003. Believe it or not, it is up to you.
lol, first you ask players to post how WiS could add new game content to eve and when they do, you don't want to see it and just continue with your rant. That type of reaction and attitude along with your statement about wet dreams due to WiS tears is largely viewed as a pre-teen mentality. Definitely not the actions associated with a mature adult or someone that's been playing this game since what, 2003? Yeah, right.
By the way, this is my main character. I don't hide behind a forum posting alt.
mkint wrote: I still haven't heard anything concrete as to how WiS was going to EVER improve EVE. Just "it's the future" and "it'll be awesomeGäó" and "your computer is sh!t, get a new one." One of those is more concrete than the others. Guess which one.
Well, since you asked, I'll go with "your computer is sh!t, get a new one."
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Minta Contha
Emergent Entity KONZERN
11
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:36:00 -
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Ranka Mei wrote: No, what pissed people off (and rightly so) was the NeX store. People are not very good at separating issues, though: "Me mad at NeX, me mad at Incarna! Grrr!"
This. WiS /= NeX. |
Luh Windan
Ancient Motorboats
2
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:44:00 -
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(tl;dr I've worked in software for long enough (decades) to spot a failing project by now. WiS was never going to deliver anything useful before the game stagnated totally and so they killed it - so stop moaning. you ain't getting it back)
Anyone who thinks that WiS was just stopped because of players moaning clearly hasn't worked in the software industry.
It is clear that WiS was consuming a large number of resources, detracting from the bit of the game that had actual game play (FiS) and after a huge amount of work had delivered what? a character that could move about a bit in a room. The character rendering bit must have taken a huge amount of work all by itself.
As someone who works in the software industry myself and if it was my project to run I'd be looking at what they have done so far and thinking: it's going to be more than a year maybe two before it delivers even basic gameplay features and in the meantime the thing that works and brings in money will have stayed still for a long long time.
CCP had made some stupid decisions and not realised the consequences of them until now. But having finally done so they have sensibly drawn a line and changed tack before it killed them.
If it was me - I'd be looking for an off the shelf graphics engine and working primarily on the 'WiS' gameplay, assuming they have even thought that far, and even then it's a *huge* amount of work from here to there.
And as for that gameplay - what is it going to be? If it's mini-games then all the people categorised as 'care bears' won't be interested - we are all busy flying around. If it's part of the whole eve thing - how soon before people are 'ganked' in a station with a head full of expensive implants before there are endless tears on here.
Anyway I'd quit moaning - they killed it because it wasn't going to deliver anything not because of players moaning. The moaning was just a useful peg to hang it all on. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
125
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:32:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:lol, first you ask players to post how WiS could add new game content to eve and when they do, you don't want to see it and just continue with your rant. That type of reaction and attitude along with your statement about wet dreams due to WiS tears is largely viewed as a pre-teen mentality. Definitely not the actions associated with a mature adult or someone that's been playing this game since what, 2003? Yeah, right.
By the way, this is my main character. I don't hide behind a forum posting alt.
sooo, since I'm a vet, I'm legit?
AWESOME! I SHALL RULE ALL OVER THEE AND FOR EVERMORE!
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
MNagy
Yo-Mama Quixotic Hegemony
28
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:54:00 -
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Only speak for yourself...
I could care less about walking in stations.
This game is about flying spaceships, not about barbie dolls.
M. |
Tristan North
The Scope
35
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:59:00 -
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MNagy wrote:Only speak for yourself...
I could care less about walking in stations.
This game is about flying spaceships, not about barbie dolls.
M. Shut up, this game is about flying barbies. |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:08:00 -
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ok ppl... i read this and i dont give a damn about your "dont change anything" opinion... i want to walk. and you that are saying... don't upgrade anything in game because my super-duper 486 PC with 66mhz in Turbo mode cant run anything... well that's your problem and world wont stop spining because of you. and second part of "no to WiS" ppl... aka bitter vets... that think "i like it like it was 2003. and i don't want anything new because it will drove new players (aka noobs) in game and that will ruin all for me"... and ill un-sub all 99999 of my accounts and jump from bridge... well you should do that years ago...
I want that EVE and CCP prosper and give us the best experience they can make... and they can only do with new "noobs" joining the game and their real world money. |
Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated New Eden Research.
73
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:14:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote: I'm sure not everyone will agree that there are any advantages to WiS, however, there are many who will enjoy WiS.
(...)
WiS will cater to people who want to identify more with their character, and dress them up, etc.
I like that you brought up the two in the same sentence, as it offers me a good opportunity to expound a bit on the matter. :)
I like role-playing games. Not the board game kind where you have to roll dice and stuff, but the modern variety, like Bioware offers in their games. And when they came with Mass Effect, I was elated: Space Sci-Fi + RPG = epic win! I spent literally hours behind their character creator, trying to come up with someone who was me. 'Playing dress-up' doesn't do it justice; because, as you say, it's about identifying with your character (the character doesn't necessarily have to resemble you, btw; often it's about 'narcissistic identification;' i.e. about how you would like to look; but I digress).
Identifying with the character you created is a conditio sine qua non in the RPG world: if you cannot identify with your avatar, immersion will not occur (not on character level, at least). That is a cardinal rule. Another one, derived from the former, is uniqueness. We're all individuals. If you can't create a unique looking avatar, immersion will again not occur (or only very superficially, like a vague notion you're a guy running around with a big gun).
That is why customizable avatars are so wickedly popular. Not because large portions of the population all of a sudden decided to behave like six-year-old girls wanting to dress up their dolls, but because Incarna offered grown-ups and kids alike the prospect of being truly immersive: on a character level as well.
When a kind of TV were invented that allowed you to be 100% immersed (picture some futuristic holographic gear or some such) people would immediately realize what a smashing hit that would be. Incarna would have been a big leap towards that reality.
So, as someone who would have loved to have immersed, deeply, I regret they dumped the project, in favor of an angry mob who only ever wants to keep things 'as is.' And I therefore ask them not to axe it.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP |
Richard Aiel
Point of No Return Waterboard
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:25:00 -
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Mekela wrote:We don't want a huge team working on it, we want "a team". We want it to grow. And don't give me "It can't work right now" How many MMO's are there that are face to face interaction, and your saying they can't do it on a smaller scale right now?
No... theyre saying it was meant as a beta program for WoD and now that that game is "on the back burner" so is WiS.
Avila Cracko wrote:ok ppl... i read this and i dont give a damn about your "dont change anything" opinion... i want to walk. and you that are saying... don't upgrade anything in game because my super-duper 486 PC with 66mhz in Turbo mode cant run anything... well that's your problem and world wont stop spining because of you. and second part of "no to WiS" ppl... aka bitter vets... that think "i like it like it was 2003. and i don't want anything new because it will drove new players (aka noobs) in game and that will ruin all for me"... and ill un-sub all 99999 of my accounts and jump from bridge... well you should do that years ago...
I want that EVE and CCP prosper and give us the best experience they can make... and they can only do with new "noobs" joining the game and their real world money.
Star Trek Online is that way ---> I hear its going free to play.
Dont bring that horseshit into this game unless they make it so we can kill ppl in stations. "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |
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Tristan North
The Scope
37
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:47:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:
Star Trek Online is that way ---> I hear its going free to play.
Dont bring that horseshit into this game unless they make it so we can kill ppl in stations.
Arrogant as ****.
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
101
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:51:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:ok ppl... i read this and i dont give a damn about your "dont change anything" opinion... i want to walk. and you that are saying... don't upgrade anything in game because my super-duper 486 PC with 66mhz in Turbo mode cant run anything... well that's your problem and world wont stop spining because of you. and second part of "no to WiS" ppl... aka bitter vets... that think "i like it like it was 2003. and i don't want anything new because it will drove new players (aka noobs) in game and that will ruin all for me"... and ill un-sub all 99999 of my accounts and jump from bridge... well you should do that years ago...
I want that EVE and CCP prosper and give us the best experience they can make... and they can only do with new "noobs" joining the game and their real world money.
look at little princess stomping his/her feet. I am really glad you didn't get your way. just sayin CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:05:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Che Biko wrote:Alpheias wrote:So let's talk about actual gameplay, interaction and PvP. It seems you haven't watched "A Future Vision". Go watch it.[..] It seems that you haven't watched neither of Loxyrider's "This is EVE" and "This is EVE II". I haven't seen space barbie in either but there is some actual social player interaction, in REAL LIFE. I have, actually. I wonder what made think otherwise. I think you completely missed the point of the video I linked and in compensating for that you link two videos with the apparent purpose being to demonstrate that you think EVE should be 90% pew-pew...in your very own, might I add, subjective opinion. Yeah I know, I mean here we are, all witing down our opinions. In general, opinions are subjective. Do we have to state the obvious?
Your comment about reading a novel to get the complete sci-fi universe is about as useful as me suggesting you to watch those videos you linked to get your FiS fix.
Richard Hammond II wrote:There are links to where they told the WoD players incarna was "just a prototype" so they didnt worry that was the tech they were gonna get in their game. I hope that you're not talking about this quote: Quote:Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced. ...because then you've very conveniently added the word "just". |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:08:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:My source is SiSi, which still can't support more than 1 avatar in an area at once. The Incarna engine is still a long, long way from being able to support gameplay. This isn't in dispute. it's a simple evident fact. Yeah, word is they stopped working on Incarna. Why would they put something on the test server if there's no immediate need to test it? If there is a simple indisputable evident fact, point me to it.
Ladie Harlot wrote:That's because it's clear that this thread is 5% you and other people who really want Space Barbie and 95% people trolling you for it. Nice troll there, I'll bite: It is clear to people who actually read this thread and count the likes that it's more like the opposite.
MNagy wrote:Only speak for yourself...[..]This game is about flying spaceships, not about barbie dolls. Quoted for irony. |
MNagy
Yo-Mama Quixotic Hegemony
28
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:21:00 -
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Tristan North wrote:MNagy wrote:Only speak for yourself...
I could care less about walking in stations.
This game is about flying spaceships, not about barbie dolls.
M. Shut up, this game is about flying barbies.
LOL |
Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated New Eden Research.
79
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:My source is SiSi, which still can't support more than 1 avatar in an area at once. The Incarna engine is still a long, long way from being able to support gameplay. This isn't in dispute. it's a simple evident fact. 'Fact' has a funny way of being perceived differently by different people. :)
I have a reasonably decent rig (i7 980X, GTX 580, 12G RAM). And my computer rips thru Incarna like a knife thru butter (everything maxed out @ 1920x1200). I recall some bitter lamenting -- especially from the Russian botting community - about their old video cards not being able to handle it; but I tell you, though, a modern GFX card, inside a modern PC, has no problem with Incarna whatsoever. And I have yet to see it behave buggy on me.
Ironically, I guess it's all part of the same deal: much like EVE needs to evolve, sometimes people need to upgrade their hardware too. Progress is the law eternal.
P.S. Not to start a whole sh*tstorm again over people's vid cards allegedly frying and all; but this thread is full of people saying Incarna is barely even beta, and I thought it would be a good idea to point that those with decent hardware can actually run Incarna just fine. Just sayin'.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
159
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:46:00 -
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Luh Windan wrote: I've worked in software for long enough (decades) to spot a failing project by now. WiS was never going to deliver anything useful before the game stagnated totally and so they killed it - so stop moaning. you ain't getting it back ...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................And as for that gameplay - what is it going to be? If it's mini-games then all the people categorised as 'care bears' won't be interested - we are all busy flying around. If it's part of the whole eve thing - how soon before people are 'ganked' in a station with a head full of expensive implants before there are endless tears on here.
Anyway I'd quit moaning - they killed it because it wasn't going to deliver anything not because of players moaning. The moaning was just a useful peg to hang it all on.
CCP didn't kill WiS. They merely placed it on the back burner for an undetermined amount of time. Meaning they could resume it within a few months or a few years. Going by CCP's track record for finishing game content, chances are it may be a few years. This thread is about asking CCP to not make the mistake of letting it sit for years.
For someone who's supposedly been working in software for decades, you seem to be rather short sighted by viewing the possible WiS game content added as either being 'one or the other' extreme instead of seeing the middle ground.
Of course if you had even bothered to read through this thread then you would have seen all the different ideas for WiS game content, some of those ideas even included FiS working with WiS.
You seem to think there's only pro-WiS moaning in this thread when in reality there's also a lot of con-WiS moaning happening. So in closing I'll restate this once again, just in case you missed it the first time, WiS has not been killed. |
Jita Alt666
467
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:46:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:WiS has not been killed.
Just been put on hold until they need to retest the engine for WOD when they decide to work on that game. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:52:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:ok ppl... i read this and i dont give a damn about your "dont change anything" opinion... i want to walk. What is stopping you? You can log in right now and walk around a rusted out room to your heart's content. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:54:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:Nice troll there, I'll bite: It is clear to people who actually read this thread and count the likes that it's more like the opposite. Oh boy are you dumb. The "Likes" are meaningless if there is no "Don't Like" button. On top of that, CCP cares way more about people canceling their subscriptions than forum "Likes".
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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mkint
292
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:58:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Luh Windan wrote: I've worked in software for long enough (decades) to spot a failing project by now. WiS was never going to deliver anything useful before the game stagnated totally and so they killed it - so stop moaning. you ain't getting it back ...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................And as for that gameplay - what is it going to be? If it's mini-games then all the people categorised as 'care bears' won't be interested - we are all busy flying around. If it's part of the whole eve thing - how soon before people are 'ganked' in a station with a head full of expensive implants before there are endless tears on here.
Anyway I'd quit moaning - they killed it because it wasn't going to deliver anything not because of players moaning. The moaning was just a useful peg to hang it all on. CCP didn't kill WiS. They merely placed it on the back burner for an undetermined amount of time. Meaning they could resume it within a few months or a few years. Going by CCP's track record for finishing game content, chances are it may be a few years. This thread is about asking CCP to not make the mistake of letting it sit for years. For someone who's supposedly been working in software for decades, you seem to be rather short sighted by viewing the possible WiS game content added as either being 'one or the other' extreme instead of seeing the middle ground. Of course if you had even bothered to read through this thread then you would have seen all the different ideas for WiS game content, some of those ideas even included FiS working with WiS. You seem to think there's only pro-WiS moaning in this thread when in reality there's also a lot of con-WiS moaning happening. So in closing I'll restate this once again, just in case you missed it the first time, WiS has not been killed. EVE would be a better place if WiS was allowed to sit for several years, while CCP finally got around to finishing all the expansions previous. In fact, it'd be nice if they went back and finished at least one expansion. WiS as it is now is enough to sucker in all the stupid rookies with false representation of the game. That's all it was meant to do. It's as feature complete as was ever intended. It's done. The end. Consider yourself lucky to be getting racials. |
Richard Aiel
Point of No Return Waterboard
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:11:00 -
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Tristan North wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:
Star Trek Online is that way ---> I hear its going free to play.
Dont bring that horseshit into this game unless they make it so we can kill ppl in stations.
Arrogant as ****.
"Cool story brah"
and yet, not wrong.
So, go play that. buh bye now
But yeah cause arrogance in EVE is SUCH a horrible thing. This crowd is SO well known for their meekness. Amirite?
Avila Cracko wrote:ok ppl... i read this and i dont give a damn about your "dont change anything" opinion... i want to walk.
k, turn off the computer, get up, dust off the Cheetos remains, open the door "Outside" and do it. Gods knows you could prolly use it, I know I could.
Che Biko wrote: ...because then you've very conveniently added the word "just".
so.... in your warped interpretation, the reason they killed WiS RIGHT after killing WoD is ...what? cooincidence?
lol what you smokin over there? "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |
Richard Aiel
Point of No Return Waterboard
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:11:00 -
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highly paid web guys -.- "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
83
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:16:00 -
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2005 player and not so bitter vet and I want to see walking station.
Walking in Stations was first shown, as a concept in March 06 and announced as something for the future in November 06. Everybody knew it was coming, if you don't and feel like crying about space barbies feel free to do so, but the WiS threads will not go away and one day CCP will have to continue development there. |
Richard Aiel
Point of No Return Waterboard
27
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:19:00 -
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Che Biko wrote: Nice troll there, I'll bite: It is clear to people who actually read this thread and count the likes that it's more like the opposite.
again: cause likes matter........
"If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
689
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:22:00 -
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Yeah if your argument is reliant on the number of forum "Likes" you receive it's probably time to throw in the towel.
I have 680 likes so I must be right. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
161
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Posted - 2011.11.07 21:10:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Yeah if your argument is reliant on the number of forum "Likes" you receive it's probably time to throw in the towel.
I have 680 likes so I must be right.
Having your own alts go back and 'Like' all of your posts doesn't count.
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Rocco Battaglia
Rocco's New Legacy
1
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Posted - 2011.11.07 21:20:00 -
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BTW, guys its not like WIS is not coming its just being delayed 2 expansions. I want WIS myself and have been waiting for it to come, but at the moment I will just have to wait longer. The hole reason it was delayed this time was to make the FIS poeple happy by giving the some of the things they want, then back to working on WIS. So its only delayed till next winter at the most, because most of the work is done. So do what I'm doing and wait for it. I do like the up coming changes coming this winter and its going to kick ass. And we will get the 2nd part of it in the summer, then I be leave WIS comes after. Have to make the FIS baby's happy first, lol.
I suport CCP, and I can't wait till I can meet you guys in the bar. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
204
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:09:00 -
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Rocco Battaglia wrote:So its only delayed till next winter at the most,
Unacceptable. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Idami Raptor
E.A.D Alliance Omega Vector
2
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:46:00 -
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I think we need to reappropriate the term 'Incarna'. Simply put, the 'Incarna' expansion was NOT Incarna: it was such a small fraction of what we were all told Incarna was going to be it's not even close to the same. So why use a seperate term for the unreleased majority of it?
That's the real problem with it: No real content. It's also why the NEX is in trouble: nobody else but you can see most of your fancy, expensive clothes, so why buy them?
The answer to that is pretty simple: Don't give in to the marketing, and keep referring to 'Incarna' as the unreleased feature that it actually is. They need a good slap upside the face for pulling that one, frankly, and that'd be a good way of accomplishing it. |
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