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Aine Morchet
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:33:00 -
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Some feedback from a new player: not having been around for any of the launch issues, this walking in space stuff has been a totally positive experience for me and I can see a lot of potential. I love spaceships, but having this neat avatar and very good avatar creation has really helped sell me on the game. |
Cadela Fria
x13 Raiden.
6
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:48:00 -
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I am actually very much with the people who want WiS (not just because I'm a RP'er by heart..but that certainly helps), but want less Nex store stuff. I'm sorry to say that I think the Nex store in its entirety is a mistake, however even if CCP wanted to they couldn't reverse it now. EVE has worked really well on a player driven market, and as the original talks went ( I believe ), the idea was that in WiS, players would craft clothing, drugs, alcohol, electronics and upgrades for quarters/venues, train/employ bodyguards/guards and so on and so on..much more to put on that list than I mentioned...Now that talk somehow turned into NeX and I'm very disappointed by that. If you really truly wanted to have NeX, do it with really pirate factions ..all of it...drugs, clothing etc etc...But the way it is now? Yeah I think that was a great big mistake. |
Adamonus
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:36:00 -
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OPEN UP THE GATES !! OPEN UP THE GATES!!!
Want WIS - together, NOW! |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:37:00 -
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Come on CCP! It's time you respond to this thread!!
Issler |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
144
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:39:00 -
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I think if they get it right it could be good for the game because it would bring more fresh blood. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2011.12.05 23:03:00 -
[1356] - Quote
Come on CCP, a response please!
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Thgil Goldcore
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
316
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Posted - 2011.12.05 23:13:00 -
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**decides that writing a long winded post on the 40 some page would be pointless**
yes, WiS is important and should get some love. MMO's are social games after-all. But I agree that some focus does need to keep the core spaceships going pew pew balanced and fair. So come on CCP and do what everyone wants, an impossible feat of balance which makes everyone happy. So help me if you don't ill rage about how I will quit! then watch some MLP and settle down and go back to flying ships and going pew pew. |
Niko Takahashi
United Starbase Systems
29
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Posted - 2011.12.05 23:17:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Zevina wrote:WiS will be very popular as soon as player interactive aspects are implemented. Having a full body character preview was the first step in the right direction. Now other players can at least see how you dressed up your space barbie. Thats cool. I for one love it and hope all the cool announced features will come out sometime soon.
WiS is a whole new level. Playing Sims in Eve will bring lots of new players, its cool! :) I agree.
No it will bring a lot of trials that will just disappear it is all fluff and unimportant fluff.
No matter how bad the original UI was the CQ UI is even worse. It will bring nothing new to the game.
Might get interested on few things but only for the oh ok cool 2 weeks period and then most people will turn it off.
So millions wasted on development for 14 day trial spike YEYYYY.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2011.12.06 00:50:00 -
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Niko Takahashi wrote:Flamespar wrote:Zevina wrote:WiS will be very popular as soon as player interactive aspects are implemented. Having a full body character preview was the first step in the right direction. Now other players can at least see how you dressed up your space barbie. Thats cool. I for one love it and hope all the cool announced features will come out sometime soon.
WiS is a whole new level. Playing Sims in Eve will bring lots of new players, its cool! :) I agree. No it will bring a lot of trials that will just disappear it is all fluff and unimportant fluff. No matter how bad the original UI was the CQ UI is even worse. It will bring nothing new to the game. Might get interested on few things but only for the oh ok cool 2 weeks period and then most people will turn it off. So millions wasted on development for 14 day trial spike YEYYYY.
You can have no way of knowing that until we see what they would roll out next. Like it or not a fair amount of time in many Eve pilots lives are spent docked. I mean they even brought back the ship spinner!! So something to occupy your time in a more engaging fashion will make Eve better.
Even if a large percentage of folks leave after giving Eve a try because they hear there is a new experience that still means some folks stay. Nothing about a FiS only focus will get Eve out of nitch game status.
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Sydron Knight
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.12.06 02:50:00 -
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I have longed for WIS since 2008, a game of vast possibilities and choices. The most compelling thing Eve was to me when I started playing was the ability to do whatever I wanted. Whether it be mining asteroids in the cold dark space, preying upon the helpless for their goods, researching blue prints, or crunching numbers on the market, and thatGÇÖs is just part of it. Eve isnGÇÖt just a FIS game, itGÇÖs more than that. There is NO other game like it. Eve is vast, and WIS is a major step in the right direction. |
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Mallak Azaria
Dominus Nex Angelus
71
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Posted - 2011.12.06 02:54:00 -
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I had looked forward to WiS for ages. Then we got CQ & it sucked. 3 years to produce a crappy product. Maybe my great-grandchildren will still be alive to see the implementation of WiS as promissed. I am no longer interested. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
465
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Posted - 2011.12.06 03:14:00 -
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While I allready said I want WiS i eve more than other. Well other than maybe the neo neocom.
The fact is, WiS needs to be put on the backburner until all abandoned Content has not been abandoned anymore.
ESPECIALLY planetary interaction. With dust having a February release date, If PI doesn't get the attention it deserves Dust 514 will have no one in eve interested, because no one wants to fight over mining on planets in space.
We need populations control. We need limited space on each planet. We need schools and military complexes. We need a real planetary sim game, and we need it within the next 3 months or DUST 514 is going to fail hardcore.
Without limited space on each planet who the hell is going to fight over land, when it's not in limited supply. There is literally so many planets in eve, that there is no way every planet could be taken up. And if it's fun enough PI with limited space per planets could get people to spread out a bit.
Even if only 40 spots were on every planet, there are still 4-8 planets per system. Which means each system could support anywhere from 160-320 players.
Without some kinda of real PI experience like we saw at fanfest, Dust has no chance : ( |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:59:00 -
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Come on CCP, an answer please!!!
Keeping the thread alive till we get a CCP response! |
Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
29
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:11:00 -
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If they hadn't bolloxed it up so badly, people wouldn't be complaining as much. As it is, however, the approach of 'Let's use Eve as a testing bed for a game going into an oversaturated market' + intro of MT + major letdown of what was promised vs given to us left a bad taste in a lot of players' mouths.
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Tammy Triscuit
5
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:11:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:While I allready said I want WiS i eve more than other. Well other than maybe the neo neocom.
The fact is, WiS needs to be put on the backburner until all abandoned Content has not been abandoned anymore.
ESPECIALLY planetary interaction. With dust having a February release date, If PI doesn't get the attention it deserves Dust 514 will have no one in eve interested, because no one wants to fight over mining on planets in space.
We need populations control. We need limited space on each planet. We need schools and military complexes. We need a real planetary sim game, and we need it within the next 3 months or DUST 514 is going to fail hardcore.
Without limited space on each planet who the hell is going to fight over land, when it's not in limited supply. There is literally so many planets in eve, that there is no way every planet could be taken up. And if it's fun enough PI with limited space per planets could get people to spread out a bit.
Even if only 40 spots were on every planet, there are still 4-8 planets per system. Which means each system could support anywhere from 160-320 players.
Without some kinda of real PI experience like we saw at fanfest, Dust has no chance : (
It's not going to happen, CCP is going to have Dust stand on it's own merits as an FPS. They aren't counting so much on EVE players using Dust. I think they're going to market it as a cheap or free? Console download with free updates to people who don't necessarily play EVE, telling them they are effecting this huge space universe (lie to them) and hopefully bring new younger customers to EVE. I don't think most EVE players own a console, though I think the eve-radio channel viewers probably do.
That's just my guess. But the end result is that we will not get a planet sim, mark that down as another CCP pipe dream much like establishments were. Even though they'd probably like to and it would be great. They aren't capable of it.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:00:00 -
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Zevina wrote:WiS will be very popular as soon as player interactive aspects are implemented. Having a full body character preview was the first step in the right direction. Now other players can at least see how you dressed up your space barbie. Thats cool. I for one love it and hope all the cool announced features will come out sometime soon.
WiS is a whole new level. Playing Sims in Eve will bring lots of new players, its cool! :)
who liked this? step out seriously i want to know this is what is wrong with you people One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.07 04:04:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Zevina wrote:WiS will be very popular as soon as player interactive aspects are implemented. Having a full body character preview was the first step in the right direction. Now other players can at least see how you dressed up your space barbie. Thats cool. I for one love it and hope all the cool announced features will come out sometime soon.
WiS is a whole new level. Playing Sims in Eve will bring lots of new players, its cool! :) who liked this? step out seriously i want to know this is what is wrong with you people
Yes how dare someone talk about Incarna in something other than a reactionary whiney manner. Naughty poster. Don't you know that EVE is all about toeing the party line and never saying anything positve about the game.
Why can't you be more like Taiwanistan and stumble out a poorly thought through and essentially inane arguement that is nothing more than parroting of the standard 'OMG its not flying in space therefore I hates it' drivel.
Good on you Zevina for saying what you like about EVE and about what you are looking forward to. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.07 04:33:00 -
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i am inane and i am against ccp dedicating resources on worthless crap i hate space barbie dress up i hate enhanced chat room with /emotes which is what the whole incarna wis amounts to what part of that do you have trouble understanding?
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.07 04:47:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:i am inane and i am against ccp dedicating resources on worthless crap i hate space barbie dress up i hate enhanced chat room with /emotes which is what the whole incarna wis amounts to what part of that do you have trouble understanding?
Your first three words sum you up nicely.
Thankyou for providing clarity. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.07 04:54:00 -
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whoa you got me, am humbled by your retort please explain to me the importance/desire/benefits for: space barbie dress up /emote avatar chatting and what i will be missing out if i am not /emoting with my avatar
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.07 05:04:00 -
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[quote=Taiwanistan and what i will be missing out if i am not /emoting with my avatar [/quote]
If you don't like a particular feature or activity in EVE, don't do it, there are plenty of others things to do Just don't expect that you should be able to come on the forums and demand that CCP focusses on only those features that you like.
In a sense, the pro-Incarna players have the same demands as those players that enjoy null-sec, or PVP, or industry, or PI; which is that CCP doesn't neglect their preferred play style or release half completed features.
EVE has thousands of players, thankfully not all of them are you. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.07 05:11:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Taiwanistan and what i will be missing out if i am not /emoting with my avatar
If you don't like a particular feature or activity in EVE, don't do it, there are plenty of others things to do[i wrote: Just don't expect that you should be able to come on the forums and demand that CCP focusses on only those features that you like.[/i]
In a sense, the pro-Incarna players have the same demands as those players that enjoy null-sec, or PVP, or industry, or PI; which is that CCP doesn't neglect their preferred play style or release half completed features.
EVE has thousands of players, thankfully not all of them are you.
oops too late for that, thousands of players like me have appealed to the csm and now thankfully incarna is on ice in the morgue and you still haven't explained /emoting to me One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
465
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Posted - 2011.12.07 05:14:00 -
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Tammy Triscuit wrote:MotherMoon wrote:While I allready said I want WiS i eve more than other. Well other than maybe the neo neocom.
The fact is, WiS needs to be put on the backburner until all abandoned Content has not been abandoned anymore.
ESPECIALLY planetary interaction. With dust having a February release date, If PI doesn't get the attention it deserves Dust 514 will have no one in eve interested, because no one wants to fight over mining on planets in space.
We need populations control. We need limited space on each planet. We need schools and military complexes. We need a real planetary sim game, and we need it within the next 3 months or DUST 514 is going to fail hardcore.
Without limited space on each planet who the hell is going to fight over land, when it's not in limited supply. There is literally so many planets in eve, that there is no way every planet could be taken up. And if it's fun enough PI with limited space per planets could get people to spread out a bit.
Even if only 40 spots were on every planet, there are still 4-8 planets per system. Which means each system could support anywhere from 160-320 players.
Without some kinda of real PI experience like we saw at fanfest, Dust has no chance : ( It's not going to happen, CCP is going to have Dust stand on it's own merits as an FPS. They aren't counting so much on EVE players using Dust. I think they're going to market it as a cheap or free? Console download with free updates to people who don't necessarily play EVE, telling them they are effecting this huge space universe (lie to them) and hopefully bring new younger customers to EVE. I don't think most EVE players own a console, though I think the eve-radio channel viewers probably do. That's just my guess. But the end result is that we will not get a planet sim, mark that down as another CCP pipe dream much like establishments were. Even though they'd probably like to and it would be great. They aren't capable of it.
That's weird because they already said that Dust player have the same access to PI as EVE players.
And review sites have already seen eve players shooting the planet in real time. I mean it's not really real time, it's faked, as in your shot lands randomly has a delay. The point is, both players get the same PI interface, and can shoot each other.
Without meaningful PI, even without eve, dust will suck. |
Sinitron
Sinister Electronics
4
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Posted - 2011.12.07 06:37:00 -
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my only problem is that for a company with so many employees ccp sure puts out an absolute minimum of content |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
465
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Posted - 2011.12.07 06:48:00 -
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Sinitron wrote:my only problem is that for a company with so many employees ccp sure puts out an absolute minimum of content
BINGO!
during incrana they had 80- devs on FiS. How do 80 devs make less content than 30 devs back with red moon rising. |
Psychophantic
217
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Posted - 2011.12.07 07:41:00 -
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It's obvious WiS is popular.
Look at the numbers for June and Incarna and compare them to current Crucible numbers. Incarna attracted a lot more attention.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
215
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Posted - 2011.12.07 07:52:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Sinitron wrote:my only problem is that for a company with so many employees ccp sure puts out an absolute minimum of content BINGO! during incrana they had 80- devs on FiS. How do 80 devs make less content than 30 devs back with red moon rising.
Not according to the DevBlog from July 2010. Incarna = (9 teams, approximately 70 developers) FiS = (3 teams, approximately 22 developers)
Do you have a reference for the numbers you are quoting.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Sinitron
Sinister Electronics
4
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Posted - 2011.12.07 07:59:00 -
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That's still almost a hundred devs who sat around twirling their thumbs and pretending to do something for a good few months. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.07 08:04:00 -
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If only CCP would deign to give us some clarity on the future of Incarna.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Boris Ginnungagap
Doomheim
46
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Posted - 2011.12.07 08:06:00 -
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Back to roots is much more fun than space barbies in station.
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