They made the U-Turn because Carbon is a flaming pile of **** that can't be fixed Soon (tm)

Don't delude yourself in thinking that they care what forum posters say.

They made the U-Turn because Carbon is a flaming pile of **** that can't be fixed Soon (tm)

Don't delude yourself in thinking that they care what forum posters say.

You're either a troll or ******* stupid.

damn this is long

(will add content. just give me an hour to read)

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Remember that most people dont post on these forums only the sad, lonely and the trolls. Everyone thinks their opinion needs listening to which is why they post only to realise that opinions are like arseholes, Everyone has one.


This in game station was rushed and there is nothing more you can say. People found that their graphics cards could not handle it was poorly implemently which is why it has been taken out so that they can work on it (or forget it)


Your next part is a bit unclear. do you want to be able to buy skill points or isk. You can buy isk with plexes.
You cannot buy SP for a number of reasons and this is them
1. "I spent years training for my character and everyone else should to"
2. Everyone would have 100 million SP. look at Dark Orbit. Everyone is FE and those that are not are out of the game
3. Truthfully if you gave everyone 100 million SP right now. most of the player base would quit mainly because they would get very bored very quickly. most people only keep playing because they are more addictied to skilling than playing the game

4. MY THOUGHTS. i would love for people to buy SP. There would be killboards full of tengus and pods of players who were only a week old.

and after that its mainly waffle. (try to condense your views as otherwise it wil be TL;DR

hope this helps

Some casual gamers like me do like the idea of having 3D characters moving about, do more like fighting inside ships, stations or planets because it adds a new dimension to the game other than a spinning ship. Sadly, this is not going to happen.

On the contrary, they do care. If not, there wouldn't be U-turns.

They made the U-Turn because Carbon is a flaming pile of **** that can't be fixed Soon (tm)

Don't delude yourself in thinking that they care what forum posters say.

So the TLDR version is 'I want instant gratificaiton and I'd like to turn EVE into yet another P2W game', because the market isn't flooded enough already with games that are just like what your suggesting.

I for one don't play this game for instant gratification and appreciate the feeling of actually having reached a goal in the game because I actually worked for it rather than whipping out my credit card. I only started playing EVE earlier this year and I respect that there are others in-game that can do things that I can't and I wouldn't take that away from them, they earned it.

And in before someone says that you can buy characters from the bazaar, that debate has been done numerous times already resulting in how it would not be good for the longevity of EVE as well as other problems it produces in a sandbox game.

I could easily go down the path of buying a multi-million SP character finacially, but I have no interest in it because then to me, I'm only short changing myself. The sweetest rewards to me are the ones I've had to work for.

I can only hope that the 'self entitled, instant gratification' crowd doesn't destroy every game on the market, both current and yet to be released ones.

I am posting today is because I am a bit disappointed with players sometimes being too vocal in the game forcing CCP making some U-turns from making the game better.

Some casual gamers like me do like the idea of having 3D characters moving about, do more like fighting inside ships, stations or planets because it adds a new dimension to the game other than a spinning ship. Sadly, this is not going to happen.

These are all good ideas and sadly, they are taken away. It is issues like dealing with the vocal minority or bitter vets sometimes is killing the game. I don't blame them because players especially old players are being too rigid or conservative and cannot accept changes whether it may be good or bad. It is human nature because they are used to that something. If Eve started with 3D characters and micro-transactions, we will not have such conversation today as it is accepted from day one.

I also don't think CCP has done anything wrong in making decisions to make the game better but sadly the playerbase is as rigid as ever and changes are never accepted or welcome whether they are good or bad.

You're either a troll or ******* stupid.

I play EVE because it's a subscription model and everyone is on a level playing field. You can take your micro-transactions and shove them up your ass to rot.

...Some casual gamers like me

Making skill points available for sale would completely break the game. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel immediately if that happened.

It would be cool to have a fully functional WiS system going, but CCP proved they couldn't do it as things stand today.

unfortunaly, like me, you are not longer a true casual player, BECAUSE you read the forums