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JPFAmarr
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:05:00 -
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I sent and email on the CTD to technical@...
Basically with 1158 I'll CTD after character selection and before I enter game. dmp emailed on this one.
I've also had a couple machine reboots with 1158 (non-BSOD which typically are in the nvidia driver) you just immediately start rebooting. It's strange how I first ran into this but basically here are the steps you can probably use to reproduce it.
1. Connect to something with a VPN connection.
2. Run Eve
3. Disconnect the VPN
4. Boom - Reboot
Now, I don't expect Eve to support the underlying VPN connection going away but I was surprised to see the machine reboot on this. Might be a useful way to debug the reboot problems. Whereas before I though it was graphical in nature, seems like it could be something in the network stack usage.
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JPFAmarr
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:12:00 -
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A quick follow-up on testing the reboot. Disconnecting the VPN makes the current TQ build reboot my machine 100% of the time. On Chaos things are better. I probably get the reboot 50% of the time. I'll continue to try to see if there is something I do ingame before the disconnect that causes the Chaos reboots.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:17:00 -
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Excuse my noob question, but what is a VPN connection? |
thangos
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Posted - 2003.08.13 19:11:00 -
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Virtual Private Network
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Lithorus
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Posted - 2003.08.13 19:39:00 -
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I hear it basically happens when Eve can't reach the server.
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Quince al'Pillan
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Posted - 2003.08.13 19:39:00 -
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Virtual Private Network
Not quite understanding what exactly you're doing.
Unless of course you mean you disconnect your computer from the internet.
Then, yes, it either CTDs or reboots the computer. That was a major problem when the server was laggy. Everyone kept blaming EVE for rebooting their computers when it was really the server that was kicking them off and causing EVE to reboot their computers.
What exactly was the purpose of disconnecting from the VPN?
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:10:00 -
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im getting the same thing. I tried making a new character and was able to get in. After i jumped to a new system i crashed and havent been able to get on since. Its while the "entering sub-space" window is open is when the crashes occur. Space environment not loading correctly or something.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:13:00 -
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No he refers to symptoms. He can emulate client disconnect action by unplugging his connection (VPN) in this case.
It's similar to what going on when you are disconnected from server and your client in normal situation will report it to you. After last patch something changed in net-code and client initiate system restart instead returning back to desktop with message about your disconnection.
I think main reason is last patch, which introduce big instability to nodes and client/server connection.
I do see often half of my corporation being disconnected at once. One and often I myself using two accounts on two computers simultaneously my computer getting restarted due to disconnect and second one operate fine.
I'd send petition to CCP about that problem and seems that CCP is pretty aware of new situation but this doesn't change fact that's most of computer restarts does happen when client being disconnected from server.
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Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:18:00 -
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Either you're testing something that nobody does, or you don't know what VPN means and are using the wrong term. VPN is a secure connection that enables you to access the private network of a company that you couldn't normally access from the outside. For example, company A has an Intranet that can only be normally access through the office LAN. However, the company has people working on the road so they need their remote users to be able to get to their intranet web site. They setup a VPN server that redirects their connection to the private network through an internet connection.
VPN =/= Internet connection. You need an internet connection of any kind first and THEN you open up a VPN connection on top of it.
For more info, check out www.checkpoint.com
This is just like calling the whole case of a PC a "cpu", when the CPU is actually only the chip on the motherboard processing all the calculations (the heart of the PC)...
If people would use the proper technical jargon, it would help us helping them! *sigh*
PS. I work in a tech support center for CGI...
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JPFAmarr
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Posted - 2003.08.14 00:07:00 -
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Yes, I understand what a VPN is. Basically I tried this by chance yesterday and got a reboot with Eve. My main reason for posting it was because it allows a developer to reproduce the problem which is sometimes the hardest part of finding any bug. Normally, I don't have a VPN connection up when I play Eve. But in this case I did, closed it, and system rebooted. So I was like, hum..., let's try this on Chaos to see how the new Eve build handles it. Not that without Eve running disconnecting a VPN doesn't reboot your machine. In fact, I've never seen it reboot a machine. But with Eve TQ build running it always reboots the machine. On Chaos I've been able to get about a 50% reboot rate but I haven't hammered on it with the latest build drops (todays last two?). Anyway, I think what the Eve client would see is a socket disco windows message which is what the VPN connection going away does. A socket can close for many reasons but this is an easy way to fake it.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2003.08.14 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Aelita on 14/08/2003 13:21:04
Ehxo wrote:
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PS. I work in a tech support center for CGI...
Yay. It's that relevant? If you are so skilled then you know that Windows can handle only one default route and TCP/IP setup. If you bring on another connection (via VPN or Dial-up) when you are connected by another then all communications are drop. He did use VPN connection to easy disrupt EVE client/server communication because it's easier than unplug line :)...
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Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:10:00 -
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He did use VPN connection to easy disrupt EVE client/server communication because it's easier than unplug line :)...
Ah, I didn't see that's what he was doing, I though he meant he unplugged his internet connection while he was in EVE and called it VPN. I know that you can only have 1 TCP/IP route, I deal with VPN issues all the time where people forget to turn it off when they get on the LAN at work... I just didn't see his post that way, sorry.
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