"Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."

Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.

Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.

Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.

Had a chat with some designers this evening.
Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private.
They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.

*rings the dinner bell* Tears on, everyone!

Miners have same thoughts about the whole "can flipping" thing.

It's a basic game mechanic. It's not a bug and there is no way CCP will change it. EVE is designed to allow people to ruin your day if you let them.

You let them and they ruined your day. Now that you understand the mechanic you can adjust your play style.

its not tears its a problem with the mechs in the game and it needs to be corrected simple as that.

Well than we should be allowed to take cans without getting introuble right ?

Nope working as intended, salvaging is a recognised profession and any amount of hurfblurf on your part isn't going to change it.

Well than we should be allowed to take cans without getting introuble right ?

Sorry to hear CONCORD savaged your ship. On the up-side, the nasty pirate probably got to salvage your wreck, so not all is lost.

You CAN flip cans without getting "in trouble". CONCORD will not care. It does give the person who owns the can the ability to fire on you (not that it does a miner any good).

The difference is that you OWN the can, NOT the wreck

i didnt say concord savaged my wreck, i said someone else was and i attacked them just the same as if you looted a container... im sorry i havent played this game for more than 3 months so lol its like saying Piracy is a profession than so i can go around and steal loot outta cans right ?

just read the damn flow chart, and notice how I put in bold two completely different words

well same thing we should have the ability to fire on the person savaging our wrecks right ?

i could give a damn about your flowchart dude, this mech as you all call it a Profession needs to either be unable to do so without being fired on or just follow the same rules as a looted container.

why did you have your safety off while mission running anyway?

why did you have your safety off while mission running anyway?

its not tears its a problem with the mechs in the game and it needs to be corrected simple as that.

im sorry i havent played this game for more than 3 months so lol its like saying Piracy is a profession than so i can go around and steal loot outta cans right ?

this mech as you all call it a Profession needs to

but its ok for ppl to just walk in and take stuff but if i take some loot out of a can that makes me flagged and thats a fair mech than right ? lol do you even understand what im saying at all

Yes, right now you are crying tears on the forum. Nothing 'needs to be corrected' about salvaging, it works exactly as intended. Kinda like your arrogant entitlement working to make people hate you.




So you're saying you have had one experience to derive an informed opinion from. Yes, Piracy is a profession, and yes, you can steal from loot cans. Do you even know what game you are playing?

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Your posting, or as anyone would call it Steaming Shitpile needs to leave.

well dont you just sound cool... sound more like a complete idiot trying to act all tough with his words lmao

Yes I understand what you're saying, I have no problems with reading comprehension.

I'll make this simple:
Salvage is not yours until it's in your cargo hold so anybody can take it without being flagged, for all intents and purpose the game treats salvage as junk. Loot belongs to you, and can't be taken by another without incurring a suspect flag, at which time you can shoot them, at your own risk.

Btw you've probably just painted a massive target on your back for the people that enjoy baiting folks like yourself into shooting at a worthless ship, and then coming back in a PvP ship to forcibly remove yours from existence.

Whenever someone enters my mission deadspace, I abandon all wrecks and containers.

They obviously need the help.

One young ninja brought tears to my eyes, salvaging without drones, or prop mod, or tractor beam. He was so determined going between distant wrecks. It was heart wrenching to watch. I sent him 50 million ISK.

but when you loot something, lol its the same thing as if you would take the loot from the savaged ship and put it into your cargo... you guys are trying to justify something that you all know is a bullshit mech and no its not tears its me pissed that a mech works for ppl that use the mechs to get easy ingame credits and steal and the other guy gets punished with either losing the loot from the savage or losing a ship from acting upon the person.