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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
619
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:10:00 -
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Dust is dying, Eve is dying.. When does World of Darkness die? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
953
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:12:00 -
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The playstation platform is the number one complaint from Eve players. They have to see that. I can only imagine some sort of contract could be holding them back from admitting this. I'm sure everything looked good on paper, especially when you see some fancy graphs showing console games growing more than pc games (a reality exacerbated by the gaming industry)
I call on CCP to remember how Eve Online got its start. Go to your loyal players for help. Perhaps something like a Kickstarter campaign to relaunch Dust into a PC format. I suspect more people would be happy about this than upset. I bet players would donate money and time to the project.
Get People Involved.
There are tons talented Eve players who could contribute to a crowd sourced talent pool. Surely individual pieces of the game could be outsourced to players to help create, with CCP quality checking everything. Plenty of people would give their time freely to support such a project. Perhaps give them some unique in-game items.
Dust can be saved if you embrace your Eve players. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:15:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:especially when you see some fancy graphs showing console games growing more than pc games
Except the opposite is true.
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xxxak
Perkone Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:40:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: The playstation platform is the number one complaint from Eve players. They have to see that. I can only imagine some sort of contract could be holding them back from admitting this. I'm sure everything looked good on paper, especially when you see some fancy graphs showing console games growing more than pc games (a reality exacerbated by the gaming industry)
I call on CCP to remember how Eve Online got its start. Go to your loyal players for help. Perhaps something like a Kickstarter campaign to relaunch Dust into a PC format. I suspect more people would be happy about this than upset. I bet players would donate money and time to the project.
Get People Involved.
There are tons talented Eve players who could contribute to a crowd sourced talent pool. Surely individual pieces of the game could be outsourced to players to help create, with CCP quality checking everything. Plenty of people would give their time freely to support such a project. Perhaps give them some unique in-game items.
Dust can be saved if you embrace your Eve players.
This, really.
Otherwise, waiting for Star Citizen. The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
861
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:44:00 -
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Oh, hey, look, its this thread again where people forget the exact reasons why DUST will probably never come to the PC, the good reasons it won't, the similar reasons why PS2 on Playstation 4 and PC will be separated games, and the fact that EVE has been consistently dying as well since 2004. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |
Felicity Love
Interstellar Booty Hunters
744
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:46:00 -
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... waits for the steaming corpse of "DUST" to be fed to Mr. Wu's pigs....
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:53:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:the fact that EVE has been consistently dying as well since 2004.
"Consistently dying" looks an awful lot like unprecedented growth.
Tell me, how many consecutive years of consistent death does it normally take for a game to actually go ahead and die?
Or at least stop, you know, growing?
You ridiculous goober. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
384
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:13:00 -
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would be awesome if dust had maps(possibility) to fight inside our stations/POS/pve spawn titans and such so eve players can influence battles shooting/reping/hacking said objects
Say evacuating civis or securing docking bays so eve player can bring stuff in side etc...
Point being i think eve link would be more potent feature if we are both in space..eve game mechanic don't allow much more than peeing from orbit. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
706
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:14:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:We all know this, but CCP keeps on hiring cheap marketing gimmicks and VPs from the worst company ever! To try and save a failing game!
Anyone else waiting for Destiny?
Waiting for Star Citizen, going to be the best space game ever. Eve is Real |
ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:28:00 -
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Hopefully with the death of DUST, we may also be rid of the DUST 'community reps'? |
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Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
583
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:36:00 -
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I'm gonna let you finish dust514, but world of Warcraft was the best mmo of all time, OF ALL TIME! Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
Prince Kobol
833
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:41:00 -
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I can only manage about 2 - 3 games on Dust before the control system makes me log in utter frustration.
I can forgive most problems with Dust but the horrible control system is something which should of been priority number 1 |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
705
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:55:00 -
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~5k players during peak hours means there are ~50k players total. I wouldn't call that "dying" because there are many games which have same amount (or even less) players than that and they are still being developed and supported. Examples: APB Reloaded, Star Conflict, Defiance.
Anyway I hope as soon as Dust team will be dissolved CCP will have resources to continue development of WoD sandbox + better EVE expansions. |
Xlex Dominator
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:33:00 -
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I dont suggest that aimbots/ESP doesnt make an FPS game not successful.
The PC FPS games dont have direct monetary consequences like this one.
Millions of people play FPS games on PC and thousands of them cheat. A good hax/aim/fps would be a topseller for Dust514 on PC, trust me.
Leper ofBacon wrote:Xlex Dominator wrote:Solaris Ecladia wrote:it should have been on the PC all along... If it went PC, it would be plagued by aimbots and ESP and all sorts of other hax that plague all the other PC FPS games. If you dont think they exist, you are dead wrong. Console games are not cheat free, but it is a whole lot more complicated. Imagine if one side was all using aimbots? That could effect the in game EVE stuff... bad news carry on And yet there are absolutely tons of successful FPS games on pc which have this problem. It's all very well to be glad that console games lack this but who cares if nobody's playing the game?
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Xlex Dominator
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:38:00 -
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I was only speaking specifically about PC FPS game aimbots/ESP/hax giving something like a 10,000% advantage against someone else playing legit.
All the other tools and bots and whatever else you are referring to in the sandbox games are another issue and it isnt relevant to the discussion about Dust 514 players gaining an edge over each other.
You are right though EVE has crazy botting problems but meh related to Dust -
Othran wrote:Xlex Dominator wrote:If it went PC, it would be plagued by aimbots and ESP and all sorts of other hax that plague all the other PC FPS games. ******* hell buddy, you're playing Eve and you're bothered by stuff like that? Eve has had more "hax" than you've had hot dinners and I dunno whether its escaped your attention but there's been tens of thousands of "bots" in Eve over the years. Possibly hundreds of thousands. This is Eve. Everyone assumes everyone else is cheating. Sometimes they're right |
Mark Rain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:24:00 -
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Sony's Planetside 2 is very similiar to Dust and it has record profits.
Alll this dogma nonsense about PC is a poor marketing format is ludicrous. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15451
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:31:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Considering the amount of money they syphoned off of EvE to create that PS3 trainwreck, I think this is the appropriate forum... So you'd go to the Visual Studio forums to complain about XBox marketing?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
671
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:39:00 -
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Mark Rain wrote:Sony's Planetside 2 is very similiar to Dust and it has record profits. Alll this dogma nonsense about PC is a poor marketing format is ludicrous. Not sure how record for an FTP SOE title compared to the gaming community as a whole, though how many SOE titles of this nature have had real, strong console pushes for fair comparison? |
Treo 'Ssard
Hangar 55
30
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:01:00 -
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You're too late: I saw my first "Dust is dying" thread way back in april. |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps Interstellar Online Network
155
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:38:00 -
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FPS console games are not known for having long lifespans. There are not like PC games where, when the developer decides to move onto the next game and stop hosting their product any longer, the players themselves can simply start hosting games on their own (read: Team Fortress). In the console world when the developer loses interest in funding the host server then it is over. Done. El Finito. Go buy the next roman numeral in the franchise and hope it lasts more than six months this time.
So with all that being said, anyone who purchases any console based FPS game should know that the moment they lay down their credit card that they are investing in what is, essentially, a mayfly. The sound of the Amarrian heart |
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Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
100
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:13:00 -
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The question at hand is why would anyone in their right minds play Dust over Planetside 2, a game with FAR more polish and far less bad mechanics, shooting, bullcrap, and basically things that make the game unenjoyable. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
350
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:29:00 -
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You need some sort of life to die. |
Logical Chaos
Justmore
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:17:00 -
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Solaris Ecladia wrote:it should have been on the PC all along...
This.
Having it PlayStation only was so ******** I can't find further words for it...
Basically that game requires a large number of people. Hey lets release it only for one console, it will be great! |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
561
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:31:00 -
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Dang. I had hoped the forum mods would have the sense to keep "DUST is dying" in the DUST Forums, so we only had to bear with "EVE-O is dying" in the Eve Forums. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
22
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:38:00 -
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If dust was on PC, I would play it between ganks. |
killorbekilled TBE
Sickology
259
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:03:00 -
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Putting Dust on ps3 and then enabling keyboard and mouse support is with out logic :) |
SallyJ
Deep Space 11 Recycling
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:30:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:would be awesome if dust had maps(possibility) to fight inside our stations/POS/pve spawn titans and such so eve players can influence battles shooting/reping/hacking said objects
Say evacuating civis or securing docking bays so eve player can bring stuff in side etc...
Point being i think eve link would be more potent feature if we are both in space..eve game mechanic don't allow much more than peeing from orbit.
Normally I'm not very positive, but to say Dust is dying, is a premature prognosis. The way Dust interacts with EVE is a hugely different egg. The possibilities are quite frankly endless. When you have a 1st person shooter, any 1st person shooter, but, within a server space setting like EVE, the additional interaction is infinite.
I wanted to quote Mina, in that these are great examples of just how a bunch of 'dusters' could change the course of a battle / fight. i can only imagine the tears of a Titan pilot to get attacked by a swarm of dustpods.. dust pods could be some kind of capsule that allows a dust bunny to eventually enter a platform like a titan or capital ship. A number of vital systems can be sabotaged whilst inside said ship. So really, you'll need bunnies IN the ship, just incase bunnies do gain access. Once inside it'll be possible to disengage engines, or weapon systems for abc amount of time, or in extreme cases, ultimate hacking skills could see the ship self destruct activate, which would require ally bunnies to disengage, by appropriating the relevant system.
I'd love to see transport ships be able to ... transport dust bunnies, take a horde of gunslingers to a planet facility or ready to eject and board that Goon Avatar.
Ship, Station, Planet side facility, POS.... whatever... bunnies become a VITAL, yet deadly ally / enemy, one you never underestimate. It expands possibilities beyond imagine, yet it's all there.. it's already possible.
EDIT: Additional: I forgot to mention, BRING IT TO PC, so that risk adverse, crap ship PvPers like myself, that have no role in LOW / NULL, will suddenly find a reason to exist. hey I'm rubbish at flying ships, but I sure as hell know how to shoot.. EVE CV, acclaimed commando squad leader... brilliant. |
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
50
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:43:00 -
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Silivar Karkun wrote:Solaris Ecladia wrote:it should have been on the PC all along... it should have been an actual part of EVE instead of a separated game.
Why didn't they listen. Who actual believed an F2P FPS console game with incredibly nonsense name and the necessity to training skills would have had any chance to attract millions and bind them forever....
I really hope plan B was to integrate Dust into EvE if the initial get rich fast plan failed.
CCP was told they couldn't do this or that in the past and jet they proven these people wrong. Jet, we the community are not some high payed market "experts", we are the ones who made it possible, the ones who care !
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
223
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:29:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:~5k players during peak hours means there are ~50k players total. I wouldn't call that "dying" because there are many games which have same amount (or even less) players than that and they are still being developed and supported.
There is the problem Dust has been released and is not in beta anymore. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
161
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:38:00 -
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It probably really is dying tho. I'd like to play it, but I can't buy a PS3 just for it, and I won't buy a PS3 when I can wait few months and buy a PS4. And not play DUST on it. |
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