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Cal Stantson
I.I.I
38
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:04:00 -
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Just a reminder to CCP, in case they thought that people were starting to like it. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
619
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:04:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXOAc5yt218 |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:05:00 -
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It's a launcher. It launches.
What's the problem? |
Cal Stantson
I.I.I
39
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:08:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:It's a launcher. It launches.
What's the problem?
It takes longer than the old login screen and it's a pain for switching between characters on the same account. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
619
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:08:00 -
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Finally, a Launcher that launches dead corpses!
M U L E! |
Derdrom Utida
Sexy Pirate Club Some Say
54
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:12:00 -
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I still miss themed login screens.
I hope they come back. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
554
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:16:00 -
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Cal Stantson wrote:Verunae Caseti wrote:It's a launcher. It launches.
What's the problem? It takes longer than the old login screen and it's a pain for switching between characters on the same account.
On the flip side, I didn't get a single patch destroying my game since it was launched. |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:45:00 -
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Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
379
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:37:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report? Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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O'Ran
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:40:00 -
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+1 missing the old login screen. |
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baltec1
Bat Country
7261
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:47:00 -
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I have no idea how people are having so many issues... |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1315
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:53:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:It's a launcher. It launches.
What's the problem?
It's a launcher. It launches. That's the problem. I used to log in into the game itself with a single step, now I'm bothered with a waiting room.
That, and the funny fact that I totally missed the Odyssey feedback survey as rather than be sent along with the Newsletter, it's been publicized as a part of the cluttered mess that bothers me between press EVE icon->Play the game. I totally was ignoring it along with the rest of the stuff in the waiting room.
(I know that launchers are industry standard. 640 kb of memory also were Industry Standard (capitalized) for years. I surely would like to see the degree of the guy who figured that customers who want to use a piece of software, actually want to be kept waiting by another piece of software instead) CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
618
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:55:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
can I let you know your launcher is a bug now? OMG when can i get a pic here
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15447
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:56:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I have no idea how people are having so many issues... Because it's a very brittle piece of software. My launcher flagged EVE as not an valid app after having run the first timeGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:17:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
What for? There are entire topics about the launcher not working and to use the exe workaround.
Not to mention id rather not wait on a program to load so i can load the game.
Ive lost easily 10hrs updating, uninstalling, repairing the game trying to get launcher to work. Then searching on the web for workarounds. Finally i have the exe option so gave up the fight with the launcher. The other day i read if u reset the settings on the launcher it would work. So quickly before it crashed i did that. It worked that one time i did it. But next time i started the game the launcher crashed again. So im done.
Now ur a dev. If u think ur co workers arent aware theres a problem u have my permission to make an announcement at ur next staff meeting. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1316
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:baltec1 wrote:I have no idea how people are having so many issues... Because it's a very brittle piece of software. My launcher flagged EVE as not an valid app after having run the first timeGǪ
I laughed hard! CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
603
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:36:00 -
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I'll jump on the "how do you people get so many problems?" bandwagon. Seriously though. How? Are you the guys still hanging onto windows XP SP 1 or something? Because up to date hw/sw are for casuals. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:41:00 -
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As a Mac user, this is my first day of seeing this notorious launcher. The only problem I have with it is that I now have to quit the game entirely when switching between characters. I have two accounts and multiple characters on each, and it might make sense to have to quit the game to switch accounts. But it makes no sense at all to have to quit to change to a different character on the same account.
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Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:41:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Ive lost easily 10hrs updating, uninstalling, repairing the game trying to get launcher to work.
Protip: Queue uninstalls and installs before you leave your machine. Then you don't lose any time.
Much better than sitting there staring at a progress bar for 10 hours.
Brilliance!
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Arec Bardwin
983
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I have no idea how people are having so many issues... Seems just about right.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4351
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:51:00 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:As a Mac user, this is my first day of seeing this notorious launcher. The only problem I have with it is that I now have to quit the game entirely when switching between characters. I have two accounts and multiple characters on each, and it might make sense to have to quit the game to switch accounts. But it makes no sense at all to have to quit to change to a different character on the same account.
I believe that process is on the short list for incorporating, most likely in a way that is more powerful than before. However I haven't seen any ETA for the next series of enhancements.
Eventually the launcher should be able to do much, much more than the old log in screen/method was capable of... however in the meantime it does seem limited in comparison. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Antaria T'nar
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:19:00 -
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as long as its slower to boot multiple accounts i wont use it\
so fix that
but preferably many an oddy animation for the old lo |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:34:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Ive lost easily 10hrs updating, uninstalling, repairing the game trying to get launcher to work. Protip: Queue uninstalls and installs before you leave your machine. Then you don't lose any time. Much better than sitting there staring at a progress bar for 10 hours. Brilliance!
The uninstalls, installs, repairs, workarounds were attempts at making the launcher works and wouldnt happen automatically. Unless i wanted to lose several days of playing because i took each step right before bed then waking up to try something new |
ImmutableDark
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
30
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:40:00 -
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Just run the exe directly. Elite Forum Warrior. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5011
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:12:00 -
[25] - Quote
I guess im doing the launcher wrong, because it works just fine for me.
How dare CCP give me a product that works.
How dare they.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15451
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:21:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess im doing the launcher wrong, because it works just fine for me. GǪwhich doesn't change the fact that it breaks for others.
Quote:How dare CCP give me a product that works. Would you prefer that the problems affected everyone? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Lord Ryan
Donkey Hats
831
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:46:00 -
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Lucky us! Mac user got it today now I see what everyone is complaining about!
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
477
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess im doing the launcher wrong, because it works just fine for me. GǪwhich doesn't change the fact that it breaks for others. Quote:How dare CCP give me a product that works. Would you prefer that the problems affected everyone?
Is it still broken for you? Or are you just continuing the complaint on principle?
First day seeing this infamous launcher. Works like a charm. I can't believe there was so much angst about it. Maybe all the bugs got worked out before the Mac version arrived.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15451
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:09:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Is it still broken for you? Or are you just continuing the complaint on principle? No and no, in roughly that order. It broke in a hilariously silly way; working around it fixed things for no reason; and people getting snippy about others saying that it's notGǪ entirely stable need to slapped like the dopes they are.
Quote:I can't believe there was so much angst about it. Why can't you believe that people complain about broken software (or, as it did in my case: software that breaks other software)? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3301
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Posted - 2013.07.12 01:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Is it still broken for you? Or are you just continuing the complaint on principle? No and no, in roughly that order. It broke in a hilariously silly way; working around it fixed things for no reason; and people getting snippy about others saying that it's notGǪ entirely stable need to slapped like the dopes they are. Quote:I can't believe there was so much angst about it. Why can't you believe that people complain about broken software (or, as it did in my case: software that breaks other software)?
Launcher works fine for me. I love the launcher it's awesome. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
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poppeteer
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.07.12 01:45:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
Please stop trolling people.
Even if you weren't aware of what your fellow devs were doing you were advised 36 hours ago. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15451
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Posted - 2013.07.12 01:56:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Launcher works fine for me. So what?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3301
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Launcher works fine for me. So what?
I love launcher. Bring more launcher features. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
58
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:44:00 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:As a Mac user, this is my first day of seeing this notorious launcher. The only problem I have with it is that I now have to quit the game entirely when switching between characters. I have two accounts and multiple characters on each, and it might make sense to have to quit the game to switch accounts. But it makes no sense at all to have to quit to change to a different character on the same account.
you know you can go in to the launcher settings and have it stay open. This way you just exit client > hit play to go back to character select without reentering passwords. |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
177
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:46:00 -
[35] - Quote
*sucks more, because now Mac users are forced to use it as well. Only we get a shittier, unoptimized version (as is the standard for us) Core Skills - train em up train em up! |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3301
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:48:00 -
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They should add a feature to the launcher that shows how many people have had trouble with the launcher in the last hour or so. That would be awesome. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15452
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:52:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:I love launcher. Bring more launcher features. Ok. So at least you accept that it needs a fair bit of servicing to make it more solid, since it continues to be exhibit buggy behaviour and even creates new batches of bugs with this latest release. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
37
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
Does allowing me to log in at the exact same speed as it did without the launcher count as buggy behavior? If so, bring on the bugs! |
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:21:00 -
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launcher works fine for me
I have 3 accounts and zero trouble run 2 on 1 pc and 1 on laptop.
I'd much rather see news and such on the launcher than how it used to be when you'd go to log in and there'd be this stupid advertisement popup in the center of screen, you never got to see the fancy themed login screens cause each time you opened the client there was a stupid advertisement popup in center of the client.
having the launcher be separate is nicer
i dont want popup ads in my damn game |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1389
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:22:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:It's a launcher. It launches.
What's the problem? The real problem is that the other launcher did that too, but quicker. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
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OmarNu Lakshmit
UNION CONFIRMED
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 05:49:00 -
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I just wondering, - is that be a big problem tu use ONE launcher for all servers (mean put in launcher functionality to player choose a server to log in, same like its for switching between accounts)? With this new launcher issue I shut reinstal each day launcher to get em update properly himself to log in to SiSi =( (Win. one mean) |
Feer Truelight
138
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:51:00 -
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I'm loving the launcher. Much easier to get into the game! That awkward moment when I'm salvaging a Minmatar wreck and after 10 minutes the player starts shooting at me.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3069
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:56:00 -
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I happen to like the launcher. |
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
241
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
I start it, it patches, i play. Doesn't give me any issues. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:36:00 -
[45] - Quote
Try running it on a PC. I don't think Eve supports the One Laptop Per Child platforms. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1212
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:13:00 -
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Ive had numerous problems with it recently.
When it fails i use the direct eve.exe method.
some times the launcher bugs out and i cant even enter my details, i pasted the weird error text before but no one cared. Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1039
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:41:00 -
[47] - Quote
brinelan wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:As a Mac user, this is my first day of seeing this notorious launcher. The only problem I have with it is that I now have to quit the game entirely when switching between characters. I have two accounts and multiple characters on each, and it might make sense to have to quit the game to switch accounts. But it makes no sense at all to have to quit to change to a different character on the same account.
you know you can go in to the launcher settings and have it stay open. This way you just exit client > hit play to go back to character select without reentering passwords.
Mac launcher is typically handicapped as before, we don't have such options Going to take forever until we do. |
Aina Sasaki
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
446
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:23:00 -
[48] - Quote
Having an issue with the launcher today. It's stuck on "Installing Files" despite the fact that my game is fully updated. Thank goodness for this backup exe in the bin folder, or I wouldn't be able to update my skill queue in time. x_x - Rei |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:36:00 -
[49] - Quote
Please let me right click so I can paste my passwords in without having to use the keyboard. sÅ»µä¢püòpü»µ¡út+¬püápÇé |
Whackx
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Using double "tab" to insert username and another "tab" for the password followed by a simple press of the "enter" key to login (incase you have multiple accounts). That's I would like to see again like it has been before. Now i have to press the tabulator key 25 times exactly, through the other containers of the launcher, to move the cursor from the password form to the username form. I know I can use the mouse instead, which I have to do now, but I liked the function because it's fast and I am a shell guy. It's more of a suggestion than a complain. |
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Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc The Matari Consortium
101
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:58:00 -
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Please can you allow us to enter our account details along with saved passwords so that launching is a matter of clicking 'Launch' and that's it.
For bonus points allow multi accounts to be saved and launch them all on the 'launch' button
Thanks a million :-)
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Lord Ryan
Donkey Hats
831
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:47:00 -
[52] - Quote
Hate it more everyday! Typing in username and password every time is awesome! Login times are slower too.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
99
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:31:00 -
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I like it.
I would start to think they were sort of lame at what they're doing if they didn't Iterate on in
Given that they have internal numbers on how many people have alts, and I'm assuming that it might even be a majority of players who have played more than 6 months that have more than 1 account.. I'd think they'd iterate on the launcher.
Whether they kluge that and just make it remember the passwords until the launcher is closed or x numbers of hours later, or whether they actually keep you sort of logged in when switching characters, It would certainly be nice not to need to sit up straight and put both hands on the key board to switch characters...especially with my launcher on a monitor that ends up being over my left shoulder when I have my feet up on my desk in R&R position ; )
ALERT !
I do NEED (to feel secure) some kind of SMS verification I can turn on when the account is being logged into from other than my normal , SMS-code-verified computer.
I'd -like- (not quite need) to consolodate my accounts under one name , in some shape way or form .. subject to people smarter than me pointing out why the security risk of this might not be worth the convenience of it. It is a bother logging in and out to change api's etc. |
Lysanne Reqetta
The Scope Gallente Federation
576
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Posted - 2013.07.13 02:07:00 -
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The launcher does not cause issues for me, but it's nevertheless annoying. I want the ability to easily restart the client without leaving another memory-using application open behind the already-bad-for-my-laptop main game. I want a login screen. I don't really want to have to download updates for the updater. Blatant alt posting? In my EVE?
It's more likely than you think. |
Aurthes
M. Corp Engineering Fatal Ascension
12
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Posted - 2013.07.13 13:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
The launcher is really bad. It isn't bugged for me, it is just the design is horrible if you have more than one account.
Does CCP have any plans to redesign the launcher? |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
235
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Posted - 2013.07.13 15:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
I dig the new launcher, makes switching characters a breeze. |
Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
60
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mac users were upset on the July 11th when the new launcher comes onto the Mac.
I think Mac users were happy until it got annouced then stuck on their computers. |
Jim Era
6862
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
this launcher is bad and makes me feel bad |
Lord Ryan
Donkey Hats
832
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
It remembered my ID today. Now i have to figure out the other 8.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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Silas Sedal
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.14 00:17:00 -
[60] - Quote
Lord Ryan wrote:Hate it more everyday! Typing in username and password every time is awesome! Login times are slower too.
I'm fairly certain the launcher can remember your account name so you'd only have to type in the password to log in. Simply the worst capsuleer there's ever been. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15473
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Posted - 2013.07.14 00:23:00 -
[61] - Quote
Silas Sedal wrote:Lord Ryan wrote:Hate it more everyday! Typing in username and password every time is awesome! Login times are slower too. I'm fairly certain the launcher can remember your account name so you'd only have to type in the password to log in. GǪunless it bugs out and refuses to do just that, which is a fairly common issue. Sometimes it can be fixed by clearing the user cache; sometimes, it can't (which indicates yet another bug). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:09:00 -
[62] - Quote
Cal Stantson wrote:Just a reminder to CCP, in case they thought that people were starting to like it. You don't speak for us all. I like the new launcher, and going back to the old login screen would suck/ |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tiber Ibis wrote:Cal Stantson wrote:Just a reminder to CCP, in case they thought that people were starting to like it. You don't speak for us all. I like the new launcher, and going back to the old login screen would suck/
You must be a troll....
I use Win7 64bit on really good hardware. I started playing just before they changed the launcher. It used to start up fast, and got me into the game quickly. The new launcher takes a long time to start up and to render on the screen. I think we need a launcher for the launcher....
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Naradius
Chaos Calling
31
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Posted - 2013.07.14 04:02:00 -
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Yer, the day my launcher doesn't start up in Offline Mode after every other patch is the day I stop using ExeFile.exe. ...and the day CCP start forcing us to use the launcher, is the day I quit eve, because...errmmmm, the fuckin launcher is always in OFFLINE MODE!!! "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
130
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Posted - 2013.07.14 04:03:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:brinelan wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:As a Mac user, this is my first day of seeing this notorious launcher. The only problem I have with it is that I now have to quit the game entirely when switching between characters. I have two accounts and multiple characters on each, and it might make sense to have to quit the game to switch accounts. But it makes no sense at all to have to quit to change to a different character on the same account.
you know you can go in to the launcher settings and have it stay open. This way you just exit client > hit play to go back to character select without reentering passwords. Mac launcher is typically handicapped as before, we don't have such options Going to take forever until we do.
Reminds me of the couple years of my iPhone not being able to send pics over SMS, and then, when they finally added that functionality, SJ pranced around on stage about it like it was the newest thing since sliced bread, and he had invented it.
(not knocking the launcher, I'm running a 6 year old HP with Win 7 64, and I 2 year old iMac bootcamped running win 7 32, never a problem, either with this or the last launcher (remember just as many people bitched about it as this one) and the HP does seem to load faster now, but is unscientific, as I never actually timed either start up. ) I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
599
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:21:00 -
[66] - Quote
Eve the only game where launcher drama counts as content. Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
Multor Kaston
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:16:00 -
[67] - Quote
Tiber Ibis wrote:Cal Stantson wrote:Just a reminder to CCP, in case they thought that people were starting to like it. You don't speak for us all. I like the new launcher, and going back to the old login screen would suck/ You like waiting extra time? You like having something running in the background that is slow and bulky?
Okay, sure, give this guy the option to keep this launcher.
Can the rest of us have the old one back please?
XD |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Yep, it's still terrible. Instead of taking an opportunity to make logging in multiple accounts and switching between characters easier, it's made it take longer and be more awkward. -- |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:33:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report? But you can't file bug reports at all now, can you? http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/an-update-on-bug-reporting/ -- |
Fuzzy II
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:05:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
yes ive reported this launcher to Microsoft. and they seam to think having a program to open a program a bit stupid |
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:20:00 -
[71] - Quote
Fuzzy II wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report? yes ive reported this launcher to Microsoft. and they seam to think having a program to open a program a bit stupid
Actually Microsoft installers bootstraping is used to get privlidges to be able to install for example.
The same is used for compilation processes, using a language to compile its own self when designing languages (which I do). |
Muestereate
Oneida Inc.
114
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:24:00 -
[72] - Quote
Upon one of many crashes it showed evidence of Some Blizzard or WOW modules
Thats all I need to know.
Eve now takes much much longer to launch. If launcher is up and not relaunched before an update is downloaded it crashes. Junk Bloatware, Reminds me of Windows ME trying to load adobe products. Nothing on my machine is as bad come to think of it. Agree with OP. Keep working CCP. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:27:00 -
[73] - Quote
Multor Kaston wrote:Tiber Ibis wrote:Cal Stantson wrote:Just a reminder to CCP, in case they thought that people were starting to like it. You don't speak for us all. I like the new launcher, and going back to the old login screen would suck/ You like waiting extra time? You like having something running in the background that is slow and bulky? Okay, sure, give this guy the option to keep this launcher. Can the rest of us have the old one back please? XD Are you a ret@rd? How is launching a splash screen once for multiple accounts slower than launching a graphical UI multiple times for every account. Also do you not realise the launcher can be closed once the clients are running..... I swear people just complain about the launcher because it is something new and familiar rather than for any other reason. |
Ralmar Kimnot
Okorer
36
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:40:00 -
[74] - Quote
I have a solution to the new launcher which is as follows and works well for me:
1. Create a short cut to the eve exe file and drop it on your desktop next to the launcher shortcut. 2. Run the eve launcher and let it do its update thing. 3. Close the eve launcher and forget about it until after next DT. 4. For the rest of the day, use your eve exe file shortcut.
If you bypass the launcher you still get the 'log off' button on the eve client 'esc' screen. When switching accounts just hit 'log off' and your client will close and then re-launch itself for your next character login.
Dear CCP, please don't take away the 'log off' button . Using the launcher to cycle through my PI alts will drive me mad.
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Istyn
Freight Club Whores in space
226
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:44:00 -
[75] - Quote
Do multiple usernames still leap around in the drop down list? I gave up when that kept happening. |
Kreeia Dgore
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:04:00 -
[76] - Quote
Yeah, thats right, we want more money! Oh wait, the launcher... I still miss those great little sceneries when the game was starting so yeah, why not to join the angry mob. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:23:00 -
[77] - Quote
Ralmar Kimnot wrote:I have a solution to the new launcher which is as follows and works well for me: 1. Create a short cut to the eve exe file and drop it on your desktop next to the launcher shortcut. 2. Run the eve launcher and let it do its update thing. 3. Close the eve launcher and forget about it until after next DT. 4. For the rest of the day, use your eve exe file shortcut. If you bypass the launcher you still get the 'log off' button on the eve client 'esc' screen. When switching accounts just hit 'log off' and your client will close and then re-launch itself for your next character login. Dear CCP, please don't take away the 'log off' button . Using the launcher to cycle through my PI alts will drive me mad. That's only a short term solution.
Have you missed the fact that the exe file method is going to be removed? |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:40:00 -
[78] - Quote
Its going on 2 mos? Of the launcher crashing for me. On the off chance they remove exe file and the launcher still doesnt work ill have no way to play.
Options are good. They should keep the exe option for those who want or need it |
Yaaar Smackdaddy
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:24:00 -
[79] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
Please everyone don't follow this advice. If everyone reports the same thing it will likely lead to a ban.
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
230
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:27:00 -
[80] - Quote
Tiber Ibis wrote:I swear people just complain about the launcher because it is something new and familiar rather than for any other reason. That's probably what the devs think too, but there are legit reasons to complain about it. I usually like new and different, i'm not afraid of change. But if the change degrades something I will not just swallow it silently.
This attitude, to just dismiss critics by pointing to some peoples fear of change is just a lame excuse to dodge the actual arguments and end the discussion. Nothing good will come from that. |
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
225
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:01:00 -
[81] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report?
No because you just don't get it! Stop developing the launcher it's a waste of Dev time! Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours? |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:05:00 -
[82] - Quote
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Mine still doesnt work. It crashes so i have to use exe file. Which is great Have you happened to file a bug report? No because you just don't get it! Stop developing the launcher it's a waste of Dev time!
No it isn't, I happen to like the new launcher, much better than what I had before, you have an option to launch the exe directly bypassing the launcher, don't use it then.
I always wanted a corpse launcher, and now I got it. Please don't take it away.
Please stop posting your "personal opinion" as fact.
Btw, in keeping with Steam and vanity items, can we get achievements added to the launcher? k thanks. |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
107
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Muestereate wrote:Upon one of many crashes it showed evidence of Some Blizzard or WOW modules
Hi Ace!
Dammn your alt is fugly. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:39:00 -
[84] - Quote
Muestereate wrote:Upon one of many crashes it showed evidence of Some Blizzard or WOW modules Thats all I need to know. Eve now takes much much longer to launch. If launcher is up and not relaunched before an update is downloaded it crashes. Junk Bloatware, Reminds me of Windows ME trying to load adobe products. Nothing on my machine is as bad come to think of it. Agree with OP. Keep working CCP.
Please back up your statement with proof of Blizzard or WOW (you seem unsure which as noted by your use of a disjunction in your unbacked claim) k thanks. |
craidie
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
13
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:23:00 -
[85] - Quote
!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please? |
Muestereate
Oneida Inc.
114
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:33:00 -
[86] - Quote
Jimmy Morane wrote:Muestereate wrote:Upon one of many crashes it showed evidence of Some Blizzard or WOW modules Hi Ace! Dammn your alt is fugly.
Hi Jimmy, yours looks alternatively sexxy, if I was a guy |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15479
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:40:00 -
[87] - Quote
craidie wrote:!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please? Because it only circumvents the problem GÇö it doesn't solve it. It's also not a universally applicable method, especially since it's a method that will eventually be patched out.
In the end, if they're really going to go down this path, they need to make the launcher really work and it needs to work at least as well as previous incarnations of the login system. It has a long way to go before it gets thereGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
231
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:45:00 -
[88] - Quote
craidie wrote:!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please? Why don't the people complaining about me hitting then into the face all the time just take morphine to ease the pain?
Just because there is a workaround does not mean the real issue has to be ignored. If you just don't care and rather wait with the complains until they remove the workaround, feel free to do so. But why would you discourage people that actually care NOW because they see it coming? |
Muestereate
Oneida Inc.
114
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:59:00 -
[89] - Quote
Millia, you may NOT have access to my logs. I think it was an AV or similar log. besides, I just cleared out logs of all sorts. It would be easier to disassemble it if I was so inclined but I'm not. If I've roused your curiosity, take it apart yourself but I could be wrong also. Your just looking for text in hex but it doesn't concern me enough nor do I have time for anything more than lame troll attempts. Did our Georgia division put it together also? I don't think it would go over well to publish CCP code for any reason. |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:56:00 -
[90] - Quote
craidie wrote:!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please?
Let's say you bought a car, and the ignition system didn't work well. So, will you settle for hot-wiring your new car to get going, or are you gonna call the car manufacturer and file a complaint to get it fixed?
If you say, you'd rather hot-wire the new car to get it started, then by all means, put the exe shortcut on your desktop. Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
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Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:26:00 -
[91] - Quote
Karak Terrel wrote:Tiber Ibis wrote:I swear people just complain about the launcher because it is something new and familiar rather than for any other reason. That's probably what the devs think too, but there are legit reasons to complain about it. I usually like new and different, i'm not afraid of change. But if the change degrades something I will not just swallow it silently. This attitude, to just dismiss critics by pointing to some peoples fear of change is just a lame excuse to dodge the actual arguments and end the discussion. Nothing good will come from that. You miss quoted me there. I also said the launcher is much faster for logging in with multiple accounts. So there is the actual argument which you are complaining was missing, and the reason it was missing was because you cut it off and yet complain it is missing at the same time. lol |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1220
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:45:00 -
[92] - Quote
This new launcher is better than eve, i love baby sitting it - if only it would sink isk too Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1220
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:52:00 -
[93] - Quote
Inokuma Yawara wrote:craidie wrote:!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please? Let's say you bought a car, and the ignition system didn't work well. So, will you settle for hot-wiring your new car to get going, or are you gonna call the car manufacturer and file a complaint to get it fixed? If you say, you'd rather hot-wire the new car to get it started, then by all means, put the exe shortcut on your desktop.
Um bad analogy.....
Lets say i have a car that has worked fine with the keys since i brought it, one day while getting a service the car company installs a remote central locking bleeper and that fails all the time and i have to use the keys anyway.
"Use the bleeper its more convenient" they say, "i would but it doesnt always work so why bother at all?" everyone else says.
Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Ralmar Kimnot
Okorer
36
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:20:00 -
[94] - Quote
Oraac Ensor wrote:Ralmar Kimnot wrote:I have a solution to the new launcher which is as follows and works well for me: 1. Create a short cut to the eve exe file and drop it on your desktop next to the launcher shortcut. 2. Run the eve launcher and let it do its update thing. 3. Close the eve launcher and forget about it until after next DT. 4. For the rest of the day, use your eve exe file shortcut. If you bypass the launcher you still get the 'log off' button on the eve client 'esc' screen. When switching accounts just hit 'log off' and your client will close and then re-launch itself for your next character login. Dear CCP, please don't take away the 'log off' button . Using the launcher to cycle through my PI alts will drive me mad. That's only a short term solution. Have you missed the fact that the exe file method is going to be removed?
I haven't read anything about future plans for the launcher. The solution I use is good for what I want to do. I hope it remains possible to bypass the launcher but as it's likely this option will be removed at some point, I also hope they fix the launcher. I have multiple accounts and I have highly skilled alts on those accounts.
Account switching is something I do a lot and I'm sure this is the case for others too. I hope CCP take that into account when developing the launcher. |
Aurthes
M. Corp Engineering Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:15:00 -
[95] - Quote
Tiber Ibis wrote:[quote=Karak Terrel] You miss quoted me there. I also said the launcher is much faster for logging in with multiple accounts. So there is the actual argument which you are complaining was missing, and the reason it was missing was because you cut it off and yet complain it is missing at the same time. lol
I don't get this statement. This launcher is much slower and requires more steps ( mouse clicks ) to launch a new instance than the exe file.
Exe method 1. Click on shortcut 2. Select dropdown list of accounts 3. Enter password
New method 1. Click on launcher window 2. Click link to switch characters 3. Select dropdown list of accounts 4. Enter password 5. Click launch account
So, 2 more steps, and the launcher is slower to launch the client to boot. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1343
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:55:00 -
[96] - Quote
Miilla wrote: Please stop posting your "personal opinion" as fact.
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Oh the irony......since that's basically all you do.
HTFU!...for the children! |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:28:00 -
[97] - Quote
Aurthes wrote:Tiber Ibis wrote:[quote=Karak Terrel] You miss quoted me there. I also said the launcher is much faster for logging in with multiple accounts. So there is the actual argument which you are complaining was missing, and the reason it was missing was because you cut it off and yet complain it is missing at the same time. lol I don't get this statement. This launcher is much slower and requires more steps ( mouse clicks ) to launch a new instance than the exe file. Exe method 1. Click on shortcut 2. Select dropdown list of accounts 3. Enter password New method 1. Click on launcher window 2. Click link to switch characters 3. Select dropdown list of accounts 4. Enter password 5. Click launch account So, 2 more steps, and the launcher is slower to launch the client to boot. The big difference is you only have to open one launcher to launch all the clients. Also the launcher is faster than the client for me, it loads up pretty much instantly. |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
313
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:30:00 -
[98] - Quote
If it remembered the screen position of any account's client I'd love it.
Currently it does nothing special that the old launcher didn't do already... besides make my heart drop when I thought all cache crap was gone forever. I love Dust514. But it needs more EVE. Read my idea on how to do this at General Tso's Alliance blog: http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2013/06/dust514-uprising-needs-moar-eve.html |
Aurthes
M. Corp Engineering Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:58:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tiber Ibis wrote: The big difference is you only have to open one launcher to launch all the clients. Also the launcher is faster than the client for me, it loads up pretty much instantly.
I guess I have the opposite experience, the launcher is slower for me. Also, having the launcher open isn't really much of an advantage. It just consumes real estate on the taskbar. Also, double clicking on the exe file (always visible, since I run all clients in windowed mode is quite quick).
Anyway, did I miss a post where CCP said they were going to re-engineer this awful interface?
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Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
60
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:05:00 -
[100] - Quote
I can't login to other servers now. I'm stuck on Tranquility, thank you CCP for now allowing me to only access one server, I used to love going on Duality and Singularity. |
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De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Circle-Of-Two
1718
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:20:00 -
[101] - Quote
Call Rollard wrote:I can't login to other servers now. I'm stuck on Tranquility, thank you CCP for now allowing me to only access one server, I used to love going on Duality and Singularity.
Stop doing it wrong then? People are still logging into both of them, last time I checked. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:11:00 -
[102] - Quote
craidie wrote:!hy don't the people who complain about the launcher just make a shortcut of the exefile in the bin folder of the installation and login that way? Could someone enlighten me on this subject, please?
Miilla wrote:No it isn't, I happen to like the new launcher, much better than what I had before, you have an option to launch the exe directly bypassing the launcher, don't use it then. We do use the exefile method, but if you did even the most rudimentary research (i.e. read this thread) you would know that this method is only a temporary solution:Oraac Ensor wrote:Have you missed the fact that the exe file method is going to be removed?
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Hazzard
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
42
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:58:00 -
[103] - Quote
Old start screen was better. Eve seems to have caved and got with the rest of the "herd" on the launch screen thing. |
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