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Lystrian
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Posted - 2003.08.14 02:11:00 -
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I been playin/testing since Feb this year.. If yer as addicted to this game as I am/was ya prolly forgot when ya started.. Unless yer fav pastime is trollin these boards hoping they ad a counter to how many posts you have.. This will prolly be my first and last post.. Just curious though.. How many people have made it out of beta with their wonderful stuck in the sticks, lucky to have a phone, wonderful dial-up connection..? I have barely... Went from 16hrs a day to 3 hrs a day if that..
Still waitin for the **** they had in beta to hit us.....
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Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.08.14 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ehxo on 14/08/2003 05:10:15 People using dial-up connections to play this kinds of online game deserve to be left out. UPGRADE!!! this is the key word: UPGRADE YOU OLD FART! Dial-up is dying like Windows 95 is... upgrade to DSL or Cable, and if you don't have it in your area, then sawy, but you're **** out of luck to play this game. You need a STABLE connection to play online games like this one...
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Veridet Faulk
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Posted - 2003.08.14 05:18:00 -
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Unfortunatly in much of the world it just isnt an option.. In North america and parts of the UK and Europe we take it for granted. I cant remember the last time I actually conected with dialup myself..
Are there any dialup users out there than can answer the posters question?
Veridet Faulk
"Well I have seen the contestants and I feel that I am especially attracted to Veridet Faulk. I know that she is a member of the Polaris Corporation that operates inside Jove space, and JovianĘs are particularly hideous, but she is different. I feel particular heart warming friendliness from herą if you know what I mean"- Playboy Enterprises Forum Rules | EVE Online Support |
Jake Pliskin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 05:53:00 -
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all through beta test i was on 56k dial-up
Broadband was made available in my area of the Uk around the same time that Eve went retail, which was when i upgraded.
Because of low bandwidth usage, the game was very playable on my 56k dial-up.
Maybe a little longer delay on the market screens, and when clearing the cache... the loading of the cache when starting up the game.
You *should* get a number of replies to this thread, i know there are plenty of players using 56k dial-up connections |
Intruders
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Posted - 2003.08.14 06:00:00 -
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Actually someone else had put it nicelly for 56k in blockades "rubberbanding like a beeeyyyootch"
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Whisper
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:00:00 -
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I presume Dial Up you mean 56k modem,
I have dial up but its ISDN. Before any you cable|BB users slag it off and say overpriced poo yeah your right it is. I live in the sticks too BB will come soon I am sure its a fair sized viallge but until then ill have to put up with paying more for a stable connection. I have to reconnect every 2 hours but I can still play EVE surf the net and check my email at the same time so I am more than happy.
Its the UK, and we only have BT to help sort us out. So much for promises aye BT!!
Whisper
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Lucas De'Thal
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:17:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Ehxo on 14/08/2003 05:10:15 People using dial-up connections to play this kinds of online game deserve to be left out. UPGRADE!!! this is the key word: UPGRADE YOU OLD FART! Dial-up is dying like Windows 95 is... upgrade to DSL or Cable, and if you don't have it in your area, then sawy, but you're **** out of luck to play this game. You need a STABLE connection to play online games like this one...
i play over 56k modem just fine. although i've never been in a system that had over 100 ships but 20-30 and I can do just fine. Never had a CTD, or UNSTABLE connection as you put it, i don't count the node drops as that is at CCP's end. If you have ever monitored the bandwidth that eve uses, you will see it only uses a lot when entering a system or entering a belt or what not as it doesn't preload your destination. after it has though, you can do anything pretty much and no lag at all. (unless your system sucks, then it just has trouble rendering to keep up)
and before you pull that, if you don't have broadband, don't play, out of your ass. the rest of the world does not yet have the access the states or some european countries have. does not mean they should be excluded (most game developers realize this, too bad u do not -- emm, closed minded, not as tech savy as you might seem to think you are). also, not everybody in the states can get broadband either so don't start pulling that, "well the US is such a modern country" out of your ass either. (boy you must have a pretty big ass for all that to be coming out of it )
(i'm an american so I can say all that stuff about the US -- this is for those americans who will think I'm flaming the US and not an american. --- did that make sense) ______________________________________________ Hellmar > sorry for the attitude, playing a n00b character through the current state just left me a bit bitter dev chat: Mar 18, 2004
hellmar> "you lot are just so clever you have a good history for out smarting us :-S " dev chat: Feb 12, 2004 |
Benedic
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Posted - 2003.08.14 08:10:00 -
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Ehxo......you are an idiot and have no idear what the hell you are on about. Now for some facts.
Due to the fact that I'm on a new estate, and because of this I have brabd new phone lines. Unfortunetly as a cost saving messure, instead of connection my area directily to my local extange (which would of enabled me to get ADSL), my telco called Telstra (EVIL!!!!!) put in a device called a RIMM extange. Basicly this a large green cabnet at the end of my street (the estate has a dead-end street going through it with several corts comming off it), this is a RIMM extange and basicly acts as a miniture extange. Unfortunetly it uses Two-pair gain technology which basicly turns a "Pair", pairs of copper conductors wound together and colour coded which is a potental phone line, into 2 potental phone lines. How this works is that it divides the total frequencey that copper handle into 2 halfs, the higher the frequency the more bandwith you can fit down copper pairs. I cant remeber how high a frequency but I think that the frequencys that humans hear (which I cant remeber eather ) make up half the total frequency that copper pairs can handle. Please correct me if I'm wrong as i'll me gald to know the real story on this. What pair-gains does is take 2 ordanary phone lines and digitaly alter them so that one phone conversation occupies one half of the total frequency copper pairs can handle while the second phone converation takes up the other, so you get two phones lines out of one physical one. Yes Telstra charges full rental fee's on both lines even though there is one, all they have to do is put in a $100 box in the ground. This made them alot of money. Now the problem with this is that with dial up you can only connect at a maximum of 28k, plus you cannot get ADSL through two-pair gain lines. When this fact was made common knowlage by a group of ****ed of customers, the government found out and now Telstra is in the ****. They have been ordered to cut out ALL two-pair gain lines and replace them all with sraight copper, and its gonna cost Telstra millions of dollars to do it. To get out of this Telstra is developing a new type of ADSL technology that is capable of working on two-pair gain lines and are currently trialing this new technology.
The point off all this?
I'm on a two-pair gains line connecting at 28k and EVE runs magnificintly, not to mention it never blowes out my download limit. While it sometimes takes a while to load things like the market ectra things run fine, its a bit annoying when the 4 hour isp auto-kick comes up other then that I have had no other connections problems what so-ever.
However its a bit annoying that my broad-band options are limited, thankfully a wireless broadband isp has fired up in my area so I'm happy there.
So Ehxo please understand that all because broad-band may be plentiful in your area, it doesnt mean its the same everywhere else. People make do, and people on 58k or lower are just as capable of podding your ass as people using broadband.
I just hope Telstra (EVIL ) clears up their act.
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Varia
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Posted - 2003.08.14 08:33:00 -
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I'm running 2 clients off of a 56k connection and it works great for me, so Hats off to ccp.
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.14 08:50:00 -
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I am on dialup. I am what most call a HPB. High Ping B... :) anyways. I dont have broadband as an option... except... satelite... wich is OWNAGE.. *cough cough*
anyways. I hope I find your LPB ass, and I can pod it. I want your corps. and like the Dev said. I will make bacon out of it. and then feed you to the jove! -rei _________________________ Trolling is bad. Please dont do it. -rei |
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Aeryn
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Aeryn on 14/08/2003 09:21:42
Quote: Stuff about dial-up
I'm on 56k dial-up, and I don't think I've ever had major issues with lag on any of the MMOGs I've played. Ok, I haven't been in a massive fight yet either, but my connection is stable thankyouverymuch.
The only issue I do have is that my wonderful ISP keeps cutting me off every 2 hours Not the end of the world, just takes a bit of planning and clock-watching to avoid getting into bad situations.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:26:00 -
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Its good to hear that dialup is an option for this game. I might be leaving the US in the near future and its good to know I'll have options --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |
Lola
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:36:00 -
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I was on dial-up through most of beta and it was fine. I get at least as much lag now that I am on Cable as I did on 56k. The game has gotten smoother though for things like warping into belts but that is the optimized client, not the connection. ----------------------------------------- Sig rented by Drethen Nerevitas. |
StarWolfer
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Posted - 2003.08.14 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: StarWolfer on 14/08/2003 10:38:50
Quote: People using dial-up connections to play this kinds of online game deserve to be left out. UPGRADE!!! this is the key word: UPGRADE YOU OLD FART! Dial-up is dying like Windows 95 is... upgrade to DSL or Cable, and if you don't have it in your area, then sawy, but you're **** out of luck to play this game. You need a STABLE connection to play online games like this one...
This must be the most stupid comment I saw in months.I also play on a 56K Modem, and I just don't have to option to take Cable or ADSL.
On a 56k modem, Eve runs flawless... I have family that plays Eve on cable, and you honestly cannot tell the difference. And I'm very happy for that, as not every MMOG or multiplayer option in a game, allowes me to compete. So Exho: EVE DOES RUN ON 56K.
TBH, if I encounter pirates blocking a stargate, I don't have anymore "lag" then a cable guy does. Even when I'm running IRC and Teamspeak in the background.
You must give credit to CCP for this
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Khand
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Posted - 2003.08.14 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Khand on 14/08/2003 10:50:03
Quote: 05:10:15 People using dial-up connections to play this kinds of online game deserve to be left out. UPGRADE!!! this is the key word: UPGRADE YOU OLD FART! Dial-up is dying like Windows 95 is... upgrade to DSL or Cable, and if you don't have it in your area, then sawy, but you're **** out of luck to play this game. You need a STABLE connection to play online games like this one...
I don't know whether to laugh or just think you're being stupid.
I play fine on Dial-Up, I have never had any rubberband effect but I've never really been in a blockade situation or a mass battle so I'm not sure how I would fare then. I mostly trade and mine so dial-up is fine for me at the moment.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 14/08/2003 11:04:15 I have cable and dial up, i played eve for 2 days when my cable went down, the lag is identical, the only increase in speed i have with cable is entering systems and the market. Even on cable if i enter a get with pirates and some cans i get lag.
Even in a battle with 10-20 people and another 50 in local the lag was barely noticable :)
After a 4 hours session i checked my usage for you
recieved 1.1 Mb Sent 2.08 Mb
VERY low bandwith, even a 56k can download 2.08Mb in 10mins, so even a 28k modem should be able to play eve with little lag. Mercenary | The Azath |
Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:23:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Ehxo on 14/08/2003 05:10:15 People using dial-up connections to play this kinds of online game deserve to be left out. UPGRADE!!! this is the key word: UPGRADE YOU OLD FART! Dial-up is dying like Windows 95 is... upgrade to DSL or Cable, and if you don't have it in your area, then sawy, but you're **** out of luck to play this game. You need a STABLE connection to play online games like this one...
What a self centered moron. I've been playing online games on my 56k for 4 years. Upgrade to cable hasn't been an option until tomorrow (8-15) and I am now a few hours away from my first cable modem . I have played Jumpgate on my 56 as well as Eve with little lag for the most part. My only issue is running Teamspeak at the same time.
The only way to run on dial-up is to get a good modem. Stay away from the cheap winmodems and get a Courier V.everything. For stability issues, I have been connected for 5days 11hours on my dial-up. (don't ask me how, my isp is supposed to disconnect me every 8 hours but I think my firewall blocks the disco signal)
Anyhow Ehxo, your broad sweeping statement is childish. Some people don't have the option to upgrade and using satilite is useless due to the high latency (3-4 seconds up, and the same back. Not counting the in between). -------------------------------------- "This is obviously the work of some Psycho, Weedsmoking, Voodoo Midget Aliens from Corporate America."
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Alexia Te'Len on 14/08/2003 11:27:55 56k'er here, should be upgrading to ADSL when my area is compatible with it.
I have very little lag (Usually when in the Gallante systems, funnily enough), but I can't see myself being in "huge" battles.
You'll do fine, if you pick your fights well.
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tigress
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:32:00 -
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Well, modem works really well in this game - provided you have a solid and swift connection (good pings). No problem whatsoever, the only thing slow is the market when shopping, but thats understandable..
(I have a 100Mbit line where I am now and had a modem on my vacation, worked as a charm). --
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:41:00 -
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The issue is that the Cap on the connection speed on CCP's side could be raised if we did not have dial-up users.
Trust me, I feel for all of you, I was playing Starcraft on 28.8K back in the Beta, and since I moved to the states my connection has always been 1mbit or more.
I like the whole Cap idea, but what you should really focus on is telling enterpreneurs in countries where dialup is king that if you have a phone line, you can have DSL, if you have electricity, you can have a connection over power lines. The technology is out there, now the industries have to catch up.
Also: masterful coding is all it takes to make a game work well even on 56k.
ps. Anyone remember the early 90's downloading on 9.6K??? OMFG Gif files taking minutes to unpixelate and come into focus... Now we complain if our streaming video hickups... LOL
we are all a spoiled species
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:14:00 -
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Quote: The issue is that the Cap on the connection speed on CCP's side could be raised if we did not have dial-up users.
Yup but i can see the average players online dropping from 4800 to 2800 if that happens. Seems to be a lot of UK players, and we have the most pathetic BB backbone infrastructure imaginable.
I live in a Big City suburb, the house on the other side of my street (50m away) Can have 2Mb ADSL I however do not have it available due to no switch being in range..wtf.. im only 50m from a guy with it!
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raglah
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Posted - 2003.08.14 15:37:00 -
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I'm on dial up and get the best service from my isp 54.6 please note I am 200 miles from a city in the middle of the bush [ australia ]and I'm the only one in town on the internet lol. And we will never be able to get ADSL, as we only have 100 population! Raglah
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.14 15:48:00 -
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Quote: I'm on dial up and get the best service from my isp 54.6 please note I am 200 miles from a city in the middle of the bush [ australia ]and I'm the only one in town on the internet lol. And we will never be able to get ADSL, as we only have 100 population!
[stereotype]Do you drink fosters on the beach?
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Kiran Kidashuen
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Posted - 2003.08.14 16:58:00 -
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Whoever says to upgrade because we have to is very ignorant because in some areas Broadband connections of any kind just isn't possible.
I mean for Goodness sake I live in NY and my area has neither Broadband or DSL.
So comments like "Upgrade jeez its like using windows 95" Are completly ignorant.
If I had cable in my area I would subscribe. But I don't.
Oh and on a lighter note I have pretty much no problems with my 56k dial up. Sure I get lag and such but overall my connection is good for dial up service.
Oh well
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