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Erutpar Ambient
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:08:00 -
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Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2358
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:16:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:personally I just start right clicking the warp button when into low structure, your ship pops and your pod insta warps to your destination. Just keep moving and jump out of the system, if this is not possible, just keep moving or safe spot until your timers run out then self destruct your pod. Either way you shouldn't need to unplug any implants.
If you've got time to unplug your implants you are probably doing it wrong. But I have no problem with people unplugging, ejecting or whatever. I do not want new rules written into the client to prevent this, since when did eve start holding your hand or fluffing your ego.
Never seen the inside of a warp bubble have you?
I don't think this is a major issue - nor an exploit. Let 'em destroy their implants I say! It's really a hollow victory for them, let them have it :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
104
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Posted - 2013.07.16 23:27:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it. That's a great point that I hadn't even considered. I don't know is the answer, but I would guess that it probably does affect bounty payout. |
Mylena Inera
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:20:00 -
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I like this image
a lone captain sits solemnly in his pod, staring off into the blackness of space as the ship crumbles and collapses around him. he looks at a picture of his wife just below the control panel and a single tear runs down his face. he looks back into the empty faces of the ships bombarding his precious craft, and slams his head into the neighboring wall.
again and again he bashes his head against anything around him until a computer chip falls out and fizzles as it short circuits in the goo.
blood streaming down his face, a look of triumph crosses his cheeks and a smile emerges. "Now no one will know" |
supernova ranger
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:00:00 -
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Leave it as is...
They still loss their implants, ship and either way you don't gain isk via bounty so let them have their final act of defiance against you... |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
196
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:28:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it.
why would this be a change needed to be implemented.
If you can''t lock and drop the pod faster than they can pull the implants in a pod...that is a sign of deeper issues, on the the side of the shooter(s).
For the guy who just lost his ship, if not locked by the time they can pull the implants....they probably have cleared the pod already since most don't go I will wait here for a non-sebo'd bs to retarget pod 2 minutes later to be a nice guy. . |
supernova ranger
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:41:00 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:Erutpar Ambient wrote:Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it. why would this be a change needed to be implemented. If you can''t lock and drop the pod faster than they can pull the implants in a pod...that is a sign of deeper issues, on the the side of the shooter(s). For the guy who just lost his ship, if not locked by the time they can pull the implants....they probably have cleared the pod already since most don't go I will wait here for a non-sebo'd bs to retarget pod 2 minutes later to be a nice guy. .
not to agree or disagree with anyone but your forgetting about warp bubbles and that pods are actually kinda hard to hit - I only need less then 8s if my warning are off to get em out |
Erutpar Ambient
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:29:00 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:Erutpar Ambient wrote:Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it. why would this be a change needed to be implemented. If you can''t lock and drop the pod faster than they can pull the implants in a pod...that is a sign of deeper issues, on the the side of the shooter(s). For the guy who just lost his ship, if not locked by the time they can pull the implants....they probably have cleared the pod already since most don't go I will wait here for a non-sebo'd bs to retarget pod 2 minutes later to be a nice guy. .
Actually i guess i miss read the OP the first time through. I thought he was in his pod in a bubble.
But yeah, what you say is true. Then some other thing to fix it!
Supposing the implant value affects the bounty payout. (Can anyone confirm?) |
Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:21:00 -
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forum goof |
Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:24:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:
Supposing the implant value affects the bounty payout. (Can anyone confirm?)
Yes it does, I have gotten bounty just from shooting a pod and the guy had his two genolution implants in, I got about 4m ISK out of it. He was flashing red so I assume Concord got his ship.
Swiftstrike1 wrote:ejecting from T3 cruisers to avoid losing skill points (fixed).
When was this fixed? |
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
138
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:34:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:personally I just start right clicking the warp button when into low structure, your ship pops and your pod insta warps to your destination. Just keep moving and jump out of the system, if this is not possible, just keep moving or safe spot until your timers run out then self destruct your pod. Either way you shouldn't need to unplug any implants.
If you've got time to unplug your implants you are probably doing it wrong. But I have no problem with people unplugging, ejecting or whatever. I do not want new rules written into the client to prevent this, since when did eve start holding your hand or fluffing your ego. 1- this doesn't work 100% (well, if you are EU, it does, but ask NZ or Australians...) 2- this is not true in WH / null sec, if the gate is under 20 bubbles, no way your pod goes away |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
138
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:36:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Does the value of the implants in your pod affect bounty payout at all?
If not, who cares. If so, fix it!
Might I suggest: Cannot plug or unplug implants in your pod in space? Gotta be in a ship to do it. yes, it does
you have a bounty for the ship kill (bounty is based on total loss value) you have a 2nd bounty, based on the pod value (actually, based on the implant value)
as for your proposal, the issue is not solved, one could still unplug during the 30 sec gate cloack, when he is still in his ship, and not under any kind of agression, but already knows is pod is to be destroyed.
for me, only way to plug unplug, is either in station or within a pos shield |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
104
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:50:00 -
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Jasmine Assasin wrote:Swiftstrike1 wrote:ejecting from T3 cruisers to avoid losing skill points (fixed). When was this fixed? See this Dev Blog. The pertinent part is the very last paragraph. I have lots of ideas. -áThey're not always well thought through, but they are always well intentioned. -á |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
730
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:09:00 -
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What the **** is this?
How/what/why is intentionally flushing what is probably billions of ISK an exploit?
You and whomever did that moronic thing should get married, your anal retentive focus on killmails/epeen makes that a match made in heaven.
In other news: Hospitals around the world report a sharp increase in trolls being admitted with split sides, foul play is suspected. |
Effect One
Vengeful Swan
71
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:09:00 -
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Why do you care? |
Dring Dingle
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
41
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:19:00 -
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What a sore looser.
Id never do that.
If you get beat fair and square. let the victor have his trophy! |
Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics CODE.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:13:00 -
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1) Don't be a KM ***** and don't worry about it.
2) IDK the idea of watching someone destroy 9 figures worth of ISK of their own stuff might be even more satisfying than doing it myself...kinda like watching them dig their own grave. Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
minerbumping.com |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
104
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:18:00 -
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Soylent Jade wrote:1) Don't be a KM ***** and don't worry about it.
2) IDK the idea of watching someone destroy 9 figures worth of ISK of their own stuff might be even more satisfying than doing it myself...kinda like watching them dig their own grave. The point is that you don't get to watch them do it. As it currently stands, you never find out if someone did this or not. They are able to cheat you of the satisfaction that comes with podding a dude with a full Slave set and the worst part is you never even find out that they are cheating you!
EDIT: cheat is a strong word. I don't mean it in the sense of breaking the rules, I mean it in the sense of an injustice. I have lots of ideas. -áThey're not always well thought through, but they are always well intentioned. -á |
Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics CODE.
31
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:26:00 -
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Swiftstrike1 wrote:Soylent Jade wrote:1) Don't be a KM ***** and don't worry about it.
2) IDK the idea of watching someone destroy 9 figures worth of ISK of their own stuff might be even more satisfying than doing it myself...kinda like watching them dig their own grave. The point is that you don't get to watch them do it. As it currently stands, you never find out if someone did this or not. They are able to cheat you of the satisfaction that comes with podding a dude with a full Slave set and the worst part is you never even find out that they are cheating you! EDIT: cheat is a strong word. I don't mean it in the sense of breaking the rules, I mean it in the sense of an injustice.
So how do you know they're even destroying a set of expensive implants unless they tell you, and how do you know they're not big fat liars? I wouldn't PvP with a billion ISK worth of implants, but the next time I'm in an empty clone and get podded, I think I'll tell my killer I destroyed an expensive set just to see if I can harvest some tears. Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
minerbumping.com |
Kabantik
Accidentally Seriously Accidentally The Whole Thing
8
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:18:00 -
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Swiftstrike1 wrote:Dear CCP Devs,
I recently watched a streaming service on Twitch TV (linked below) where the pilot got caught by a Sabre in his pod upon jumping through a gate in nullsec. The pilot opened his character sheet and unplugged all his implants before decloaking just to prevent them from showing up on his kill mail.
This is just as much an exploit as the old issues of self destructing a ship to cheat your enemies and ejecting from a Tech 3 cruiser before it was destroyed to prevent skill point loss.
Please fix this somehow. I suggest *truncated*
Cancelling the skill queue, dumping implants and preparing for the worst, willingly ejecting from your cargo canned decloaked T3 (if you might have a chance) takes mad micromanagement, Especially when you FC.
Reward the innovative players not punish them. Not an exploit, not going to be removed.
TL;DR No |
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Manfred Hideous
TOHOKU 9.0
51
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:36:00 -
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Alexila Quant wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: Because if they don't appear on the killmail, they're not really destroyed....? The issue is with the inability to show and tell. A bit shallow a reason but that's the same reason they got rid of self destructing to cheat mails, so the argument is valid imo.
Well, if there's a bounty involved, then he's also affecting someone's ISK pull. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:51:00 -
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That inty pilot did it right and reading the amount of tears here makes it even more tasty.
Someone just figured out he could do this but didn't new about it and now is thinking about all those pod losses with expensive implants in his so important killboard.
Gaz thread.
Awesome *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
233
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:52:00 -
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Not seeing a problem here. Sucks? Yes. Problem/Exploit? No. |
Erutpar Ambient
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
57
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:57:00 -
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OK guys, this is the deal.
If blowing up implants in a pod will affect the payout of a bounty, then this is an exploit against the bounty system.
If it doesn't affect the payout, then it's not an exploit and the person who got the kill will receive less satisfaction which lies outside of game mechanics and get over it.
How about this, you need access to fitting service to plug-unplug implants. So you need a station, ship maint array or maint hangar. So just like modules you can't plug/unplug alone in space. And just like modules you can't destroy in space either. (Without guns) |
Doddy
Dark-Rising
854
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:01:00 -
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To be honest i dont see why anyone would care enough about epeen to do it, or care about someone doing it.
It has a perfectly valid use in people who don't want anyone to know what implants they use, and is quite legit in that case. You can destroy rigs that way as well.
With bounty its irrelevant, if these guys didn't destroy the implants, they don't get the payout, simples. Why would the guy want to keep his bounty up anyway, is this more of that epeen thing? |
Whitehound
1551
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:22:00 -
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The topic is a joke. If OP had not seen it in a video would he never have thought of it himself, but now is of course extremely butthurt over the find. OP could just apply the trick himself and levelled the score. It is not like players are being prevented from killmail whoring either, but see it as a legit trick to better their scores.
Nevertheless does it come down to having killmails or not having killmails. And since we have these "e-peen rewards" aka killmails should we have them all the way or not at all. So, OP has a point. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
255
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:29:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:personally I just start right clicking the warp button when into low structure, your ship pops and your pod insta warps to your destination. Just keep moving and jump out of the system, if this is not possible, just keep moving or safe spot until your timers run out then self destruct your pod. Either way you shouldn't need to unplug any implants.
If you've got time to unplug your implants you are probably doing it wrong. But I have no problem with people unplugging, ejecting or whatever. I do not want new rules written into the client to prevent this, since when did eve start holding your hand or fluffing your ego. Never seen the inside of a warp bubble have you? I don't think this is a major issue - nor an exploit. Let 'em destroy their implants I say! It's really a hollow victory for them, let them have it :)
Of course I've seen the inside of a bubble given that I live predominantly in null or low, I've anchored plenty of them, if you expect bubbles they are actually ******* easy to avoid, only the lazy get caught in bubbles...
For eveyone else who is on ops you can use a blank jump clone. Tiericide is tiers by another name. |
Me ofcourse
Koa Mai Hoku Nulli Secunda
85
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:43:00 -
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ok... the problem i see, along with most of everyone in here, is this:
When a person is podded, the implants are destroyed regardless, now if the person wants to unplug the implants let him, its not like it's going to drop or not, like ship modules. so considering this an exploit is stupid, as there is no difference to what happens to the implants.
Just as much as everyone loves seeing a 6 bill ++ implant clone killmail, it makes no difference to the game, so it is not classified as an exploit or anything close to one.
now if CCP makes it to where we are able to harvest implants from corpse's, then this will be a different issue, until then... no
TL;DR No difference to what happens to the implants. QUIT YOUR BITCHING |
Daesul ShadoWind
tlhlnag wo space weaponry and trade
4
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:12:00 -
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Consider it a strategic denial of killboard lols. And a great victory for forum trolls and the tears it must bring you to know that you were seconds away from destroying a clone with a crystal omega set. Get over it. Its far from an exploit and an in game function. |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
40
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:37:00 -
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With all the other issue in EVE, THIS needs to be addressed? |
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