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Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:33:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Not seen as fun, and too expensive to consider. Then hating it when you inevitably lose this stake, since noone wins every time. And with gate-camps, realistically - what are the average person's chances? Pretty low...
LOL breaking gate camps isn't magic.
Considering you can rat/mission back the T1 cruisers in about an hour at longest (and that is at null prices) two hours for an ABC, about 4 for a battleship.
....and that is before you factor in salvage or LP.
I used to make 500mil a week in faction ammo from blowing up all of the mods picked up in level 4s. One ship to rat and another a pocket behind it in a salvage boat. |
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Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:46:00 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:
I went low/0.0 pvp like a month into the game. Best way to learn pvp is to actually do it. Station spinng/mission spamming the entire time to train the perfect wolf will not help that player out as much as just starting to head out at "lowly" frigate 4 in as many rfiters as they can afford to fly.
Much like my path. I started running around low sec before I could do a level 3 mission.
Particularly now, the T1 frigates are a LOT better than they used to be....and every gang needs tackle, particularly in low sec where you can't just cheese it with dictor bubbles.
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Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.22 01:12:00 -
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Mike Voidstar wrote:
You want to get a carebear to fight in PvE? Give him something worth fighting, and even dying for. Give him a reason not to run at the first sign of the enemy.
We have that, its called SOV space. If you always run you won't have very much space, and having space means there is always someone looking to kick over your sandcastle. There was a guy in my corp that spent a month ratting for a shiny. He had 50 kills at the end of that month from killing people that were interrupting his grind |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:22:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Yaturi wrote:
Most prospective pvpers don't pvp because they don't want to lose their 500mil learning implant sets
This skill says your wrong. Honest question: How do you store a jump clone at an NPC station? Is their a minimum standing that lets them accept you? I've only been able to install at alliance controlled locations, so really don't know.
If you have a JC somewhere else you just fly there and jump to another clone. I have jump clones in all sorts of stations that the corp frigging hates me. |
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Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:25:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Yaturi wrote:
Most prospective pvpers don't pvp because they don't want to lose their 500mil learning implant sets
This skill says your wrong. Honest question: How do you store a jump clone at an NPC station? Is their a minimum standing that lets them accept you? I've only been able to install at alliance controlled locations, so really don't know. You are correct. And pretty high standings too. Assuming we are including new players, and relatively new players (enough sp and isk to those implants) they might be clouded in that aspect.
Its 8.0 but easily worked around.
Like I said if you fly to a station and JC out, you have a JC at the station you flew to. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:28:00 -
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Yaturi wrote:Kitty Bear wrote: they don't lose their 500m implants when podded
fucks sake. how is that hard to understand
Ok. Youre clever. I get it. But who are we talking about, pvpers or carebears. Im holding up oranges here and you still wanna say apples. That fact still remains, remove or cheapen learning implants and you will see more carebears leaving their high sec caves.
Learning implants? Really?
I rarely even use them, I may put a +3 in whatever the primary skillset I'm training up is, but that is about it, and that is relatively rare.
In low sec, I used to fly around with a head FULL of expensive stuff, because its pretty rare that you get podded, like really rare, if I got podded I screwed up.
In null its basically pointless because of bubbles. |
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