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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 13/12/2005 02:29:16 Which ships come off well and not so well in the current ships available.
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Agent2 Holtze
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:32:00 -
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Looser: Zealot...
Big time winner: All battlecruisers
Cheers! ~ Quovis Per Adua ~ |
Aversin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:33:00 -
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Loser: Minmatar (yes the entire race)
Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:34:00 -
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Also winner, cerberus and all heavy missile ships. Stopgap dps measures until assault missiles are introduced mean you have short-range dps from an ultra-long range ship. ------------- Where is the gistii a-type armor equivalent?
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aversin Loser: Minmatar (yes the entire race)
No no, cyclone = win. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
Removed - Innapropriate material contained in signature -Daigon
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:45:00 -
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Domi = WINNER -------------------------------------------------- - Jamie (Aka) Spartan III Hardener Stacking Penalty Explained |
Linavin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru Also winner, cerberus and all heavy missile ships. Stopgap dps measures until assault missiles are introduced mean you have short-range dps from an ultra-long range ship.
How about the high damage light missiles in assault launchers?
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2005.12.13 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan III Domi = WINNER
Originally by: Omeega I R NO WORK.
I SELL MY KIDS FOR ISK.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.
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Squidfoam
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Posted - 2005.12.13 03:15:00 -
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Brutix, THY TIME HAS COME.
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.12.13 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Hobblin I on 13/12/2005 03:22:53 IMO the list
1) Domi 2) Ishtar 3) Cerberus 4) Cyclone 5) Eagle 6) other Bcruisers 7) somefriggies 8) rupture 9) Maller 10) Caracal
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.12.13 03:22:00 -
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Losers
1) Zealot 2) Armageddon 3) Sniperpest
I'm sure others have more to add.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2005.12.13 03:32:00 -
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losers = anyone who fights against a drone ship.
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Dark fire
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:56:00 -
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RIP : Zealot
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:05:00 -
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Minmatar Winners:
1) Rifter (yes, t2 autocannons + t2 rocket launcher + t2 mwd + web + scram + rep + 400mm plate + mapc fits )
2) Cyclone (tanks like a ferox, but has an extra high and actually does damage)
Minmatar Losers:
1) 1400mm Tempest
2) Artillery in general
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Burlock Ironfist
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:14:00 -
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Ravens have come out nice as well...
missile sizes are getting reduced - yippie!
cap bosters charges are being reduced - yay
and inv fields for those time when you dont know what you will be facing
and damage control units for that extra bit opf resistnce
This means better tanking - ravens can now use cap booster as the charges are much smaller makign tanking easier. Removed signature image, reduce width to 400 pixels or below before reposting please. - Daigon - it was only 420 big :-( Registered Carebear and Mining Barge Enthusiast. |
Gronsak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Minmatar Winners:
1) Rifter (yes, t2 autocannons + t2 rocket launcher + t2 mwd + web + scram + rep + 400mm plate + mapc fits )
2) Cyclone (tanks like a ferox, but has an extra high and actually does damage)
Minmatar Losers:
1) 1400mm Tempest
2) Artillery in general
how does the 1400mm tempest loose out?
no ship can fit more than 4 dmg mods in RMR. before the sniperthron was a LOT more DPS, now the tempest is sniper king rather than the megathron.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Burlock Ironfist Ravens have come out nice as well...
missile sizes are getting reduced - yippie!
cap bosters charges are being reduced - yay
and inv fields for those time when you dont know what you will be facing
and damage control units for that extra bit opf resistnce
This means better tanking - ravens can now use cap booster as the charges are much smaller makign tanking easier.
before RMR ie now, the raven is very over powered in some areas. its ability to gank and tank is great. 600DPS with INSANE tank. its drawbacks where it couldnt really fend off frigs (hacs it has NP if u got a few SP) it doest have as high a DPS as some ships. but overall it was a BS eater
now its got a massive boost too: i give it 3 months to get a nerf or all other races a buff
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 13/12/2005 11:24:25 Edited by: Vishnej on 13/12/2005 11:20:39 If the test server goes live as-is, after the drone control nerf, domi/ishtar won't be that much better than they are now.
Ishkur, on the other hand, will be loads better.
Raven's getting a boost, typhoon is getting some boost.
Battlecruisers are getting a huge boost, and being equalized, while mk2 cruisers will be quite a bit more potent, but still not the choice ships.
While on the face of it, the thorax dronebay nerf hurt, the damage done with maxed skills with 5 medium drones will be equivalent to 5.5 Cold War heavy drones, and it should get a big benefit from the fitting. ---------------------------- T2 Destroyers: a proposal Requested Changes: An alphabet's worth |
Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:20:00 -
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Winners: Cyclone, all drones carriers, anything with a shield tank, anything with heavy missiles.
Losers: Every kind of gank ship, which includes anything that uses artillery.
Winning Races: Gallente, Caldari Losing Race: Minmatar, Amarr
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Sarmaul Minmatar Winners:
1) Rifter (yes, t2 autocannons + t2 rocket launcher + t2 mwd + web + scram + rep + 400mm plate + mapc fits )
2) Cyclone (tanks like a ferox, but has an extra high and actually does damage)
Minmatar Losers:
1) 1400mm Tempest
2) Artillery in general
how does the 1400mm tempest loose out?
no ship can fit more than 4 dmg mods in RMR. before the sniperthron was a LOT more DPS, now the tempest is sniper king rather than the megathron.
The Sniper Tempest operated on the One-Shot One-Kill, mechanism. However, with RMR that is no longer a viable option, meaning that the ship's abismal DPS*tank catches up with it alarmingly quickly.
Harry Voyager ____________________ I'm not an idiot; I just play one on the forums. |
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Brannor McThife
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
before RMR ie now, the raven is very over powered in some areas. its ability to gank and tank is great. 600DPS with INSANE tank. its drawbacks where it couldnt really fend off frigs (hacs it has NP if u got a few SP) it doest have as high a DPS as some ships. but overall it was a BS eater
now its got a massive boost too: i give it 3 months to get a nerf or all other races a buff
*yawn* It's an anti-BS BS. That's it. it cannot gank HAC's, and it can do almost jack against frigates and inties. Torpedoes can simply not do jack s**t against frigates. Whereas 1400mm turrets can pop a stupid frigate pilot in one shot.
Get over it. The Raven is slow, cumbersome, and made to kill other BS's...nothing more.
-G
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Sennju Zensu
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Posted - 2005.12.13 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sennju Zensu on 13/12/2005 12:03:19
Originally by: Aversin Loser: Minmatar (yes the entire race)
lol ... /em look Minmatarr interdictor.... mmm it pwn all other interdictors! 7 turret no RoF malus, bonuses etc...
and a 60% range web T2 cruiser...
really i dont see where all this race will be looser
for the actuals Drones SHip.. dont know what will really happens... only 5 heavy on Domi, depend how you use them now, maybe more flexibility on kind of fitting too
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Sarmaul Minmatar Winners:
1) Rifter (yes, t2 autocannons + t2 rocket launcher + t2 mwd + web + scram + rep + 400mm plate + mapc fits )
2) Cyclone (tanks like a ferox, but has an extra high and actually does damage)
Minmatar Losers:
1) 1400mm Tempest
2) Artillery in general
how does the 1400mm tempest loose out?
no ship can fit more than 4 dmg mods in RMR. before the sniperthron was a LOT more DPS, now the tempest is sniper king rather than the megathron.
The Sniper Tempest operated on the One-Shot One-Kill, mechanism. However, with RMR that is no longer a viable option, meaning that the ship's abismal DPS*tank catches up with it alarmingly quickly.
Harry Voyager
what where u able to "one shot" just so barly that u cant do anymore
DPS isnt low on a tempest, ur skills must be ****
check DPS in sniper tempest VS sniper megathron
its tank is the same as a megathrons, ie nothing (although it can be setup with a good tank)
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Brannor McThife
Originally by: Gronsak
before RMR ie now, the raven is very over powered in some areas. its ability to gank and tank is great. 600DPS with INSANE tank. its drawbacks where it couldnt really fend off frigs (hacs it has NP if u got a few SP) it doest have as high a DPS as some ships. but overall it was a BS eater
now its got a massive boost too: i give it 3 months to get a nerf or all other races a buff
*yawn* It's an anti-BS BS. That's it. it cannot gank HAC's, and it can do almost jack against frigates and inties. Torpedoes can simply not do jack s**t against frigates. Whereas 1400mm turrets can pop a stupid frigate pilot in one shot.
Get over it. The Raven is slow, cumbersome, and made to kill other BS's...nothing more.
-G
the problem is it puts LOTs of other ships out of action. IE autocannon tempest/blasterthron which are very very close range cant win vs a raven ang take a massive risk for fighting so close (where a raven doesnt cos torps = long range 100km ect
so insted of useing blasterthrons/autotempests people just fit long range
bring back splash damage and mos tthe problems are sorted in an instant making the raven pawn all bs >10km and <100km
but atm its stupid cos it kill the close range tempest, close range mega,
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 13/12/2005 13:27:37
Originally by: Gronsak DPS isnt low on a tempest, ur skills must be ****
check DPS in sniper tempest VS sniper megathron
its tank is the same as a megathrons, ie nothing (although it can be setup with a good tank)
DPS is low on an Arty Tempest. There are numbers practically clogging this forum up supporting such.
What you may *think* is good DPS for whatever reason, is actually very poor.
Please know facts before posting.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak now the tempest is sniper king rather than the megathron.
check DPS in sniper tempest VS sniper megathron
3 damage mod 1400mm tempest vs 3 damage mod 425mm rail megathron
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Agent2 Holtze Looser: Zealot...
Big time winner: All battlecruisers
really i thought i was going to be unstopable because of explosive damage ________________________________________________
Where is the gistii a-type armor equivalent? "I asked for it first not keepiru"
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.13 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Agent2 Holtze Looser: Zealot...
Big time winner: All battlecruisers
really i thought i was going to be unstopable because of explosive damage
check the t2 ammo whine thread - explosive cystals and em charges aren't going in until "something sexy is thought up for minmatar"
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Sanaen Eydanwadh
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Posted - 2005.12.13 14:18:00 -
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the VIGIL !!
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.12.13 14:29:00 -
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Losers: 1. Deimos 2. Deimos 3. Deimos
Winners: All tech 1 cruisers and BC's
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Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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