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Val Duane
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:48:00 -
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I think they should add a new rule to this Corporation, Alliance and Organisation Discussions board. It should be restricted to only characters in player owned corporations. That would keep out a lot of the riff raff 1 day old alts. Maybe it should be corporations bigger than 5 members too.
Lets be honest. It's the alts posting in these forums that cause the most flaming. They not afraid to start a ruckass or say something stupid, cause no one knows who they are.
At least if we have some entry requirements to use this board, then we will reduce the number of forum alts that currently spoil these boards.
Don't be lame, post with your main!
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:51:00 -
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Most of the moderators problems on this board is caused by alts.. so why allow them to post?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:51:00 -
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Yaaaaar!!! -
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:56:00 -
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I have to agree, although I expect the software infrastructure isn't avaiulable to enforce it. This is a corporations forum, and thus would make sense for it to be corporation members only that could post here.
Idealism ftw.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:59:00 -
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persoanlly I'd take it one step further and only allow people within a corp that have a corp forum posting role assigned to them able to post in here. Should force all those alts to either form their own corps and pay the isk, or stfu (think of the billions of isk sinked out of the game from this one little change) ----------------------
Originally by: Seleene
I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.
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Roke E'raith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Roke E''raith on 13/12/2005 09:01:12
Originally by: KIAEddZ I have to agree, although I expect the software infrastructure isn't avaiulable to enforce it. This is a corporations forum, and thus would make sense for it to be corporation members only that could post here.
Idealism ftw.
Hmm, you could have to register your forum user here. (And only one available). Then they can make a script that checks that the registred user is in a player owned corp...
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:01:00 -
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Sel...Oz...Eddz...
That's a Trio of Evil if I've ever seen one. -
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:03:00 -
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CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:03:00 -
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we should forma dark coven and put curses on people... ----------------------
Originally by: Seleene
I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie we should forma dark coven and put curses on people...
oh oh oh! Can i come too! PLEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE!!!!!! ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 13/12/2005 09:12:14
Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Omber Zombie we should forma dark coven and put curses on people...
oh oh oh! Can i come too! PLEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
No. You'd just leave us for another group in a week. -
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 13/12/2005 09:12:14
Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Omber Zombie we should forma dark coven and put curses on people...
oh oh oh! Can i come too! PLEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
No. You'd just leave us for another group in a week.
must be strong now.... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Lorelai Bak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:25:00 -
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I think the OP is stoopid, and that this topic should be locked for flamebait. |
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Equinox II Most of the moderators problems on this board is caused by alts.. so why allow them to post?
All of the problems on this board are caused by people breaking the rules.
Whether they are cloaked within the relative anonymity of an NPC corp or a trial account, they are still most likely active players with a point to make.
This idea has many merits. However, Eve allows you three character slots, and multiple accounts. Provided that the poster stays within the rules, I don't see how you can deny them because they choose to remain anonymous. Its the flamebait/trolls that are the issue, not alts.
It would also bode well that people learn not to feed the trolls. That would go a ways towards civility. These alt trolls get their satisfaction from upsetting and getting a rise out of others. If you don't feed them, they get no satisfaction.
Another point, if you don't allow trial accounts to post at all, how then would the new players receive help from the community if they have a problem, or need to ask a simple question? If you suggest that they have their own forum, think of the administrative overhead involved, to me it isn't practical.
Originally by: Val Duane They not afraid to start a ruckass or say something stupid, cause no one knows who they are.
We can see who they are. And they get warned/banned in accordance with the rules when they break them on either side of the aisle. They think they are safe, but they soon learn when their main can't post for a predetermined time that they are not safe.
I will allow this thread to go for now, please don't discuss moderation and stay within the rules. It has been a long while since I have seen a serious post about this that lists a reasoned argument.
This alt will be watching ---
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lorelai Bak I think the OP is stoopid, and that this topic should be locked for flamebait.
Here is a perfect example why it should be done...
Please do somethign CCP, would also save your moderators a lot of work -
For more than a single foe to attempt to fight the Reikoku at once is an act of supreme folley |
KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:36:00 -
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Abdalion, I think you have missed the point somewhat. Alts shouldnt be alloweed to post in this section of the Forums, its a Corporation and Alliance section after all. There are plenty of other sections for a noob to gain help and advice, there is a recruitment centre should they wish to contact a corp for prospective employemnt.
This forum should be only for those that are in a player owned corporations. Wether or not the software can handle such specific posting priveleges filtering, is another matter.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:43:00 -
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I didn't miss that point at all KIAEddZ. It is wishful thinking that we could partition the forums like that.
But I maintain that if people learned to control themselves by not feeding the trolls that will invariably post on most any forum, that the problem would be 85% solved.
Even if you only allowed people to post with a player corp character, the problem would still remain, it would just be displayed a different way. ---
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:43:00 -
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Aaw, you deleted my alt post :(
Anyways, I agree with the OP, and ms. baks comment was made as an example why alt posts should be "banned" from this forum.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 13/12/2005 09:49:26
Originally by: KIAEddZ Abdalion, I think you have missed the point somewhat. Alts shouldnt be alloweed to post in this section of the Forums, its a Corporation and Alliance section after all. There are plenty of other sections for a noob to gain help and advice, there is a recruitment centre should they wish to contact a corp for prospective employemnt.
This forum should be only for those that are in a player owned corporations. Wether or not the software can handle such specific posting priveleges filtering, is another matter.
Signed!
Abdalion...you said "dont feed trols". I agree, but its still to frustrating when you log from work and try to read what happend in meentime or something and you see those famous posts by anonimus players. I dont have to reply but its still frustrating to read through,....even catch that post with blink of the eye.
There must be some way to make them post less then they do now on THIS SECTION ON FORUM
EDIT: If i would be Yoga master or something I could control my thoughts but im simple man that is week toward some c.r.a.p. and reply it or not Im irritated inside
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:49:00 -
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Its a tricky one.
Sometimes I post with an alt, mainly because (a) I don't want to be called primary in the next engagement, (b) i want to be critical of an "ally" without getting hauled over the coals by my alliance leaders.
However, I agree that the overally quality of the board would be improved if you stopped anyone from a noob corp from posting.
Maybe as a starting point we could just stop them from starting new threads? It tends to be the "Is G getting desperate?", ".5. have run away?", "ASCN losing ground?", "BOB cant handle a real fight?" type of starting posts - always phrased as a question i often notice - that seem to start all the crap.
It would be good to see some better quality posts in here.
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Rukaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:51:00 -
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Agreed.
Eddz suggestion seems viable in this section. Its feasible as the software should be too hard to code.
Its not applicable in other sections as it is difficult to actually define Alt.
Ruk
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Drilla on 13/12/2005 10:07:32
I have an alternative suggestion - add another section to this board that is only accessible to people in alliances and you can only post there if you have a 'PR' role in your corp, in your alliance.
Then there is a inter-galactic communication area where all alliance members can read but only those people the corps in the alliance deem as worthy can post.
You still keep this flame infested smacksection ofc. but the other would solve alot of stuff. Seeing as there is a section dedicated to alliance members only might encourage players in npc corps/new player to move to next phase of EVE and expand their gaming horizons.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Soul Raven
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:14:00 -
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I agree totally with Drilla
If this is possible then i think it could be the answer
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/12/2005 10:19:57 I disagree with Drillas suggestion, its not only the people in alliances that have effect on the world the alliances reside in. KIA have had, and will continue to have, many a say on the lifes and times of the ALliances of Eve, and we often have input of value and importamce when it comes to the threads discussing the everyday situations of alliances.
That said, having a forum where only people that have designated corp rights to post can post, would be a very very good place to start.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 13/12/2005 10:19:26 ^^ What Drilla said.
I know that in Kali (before, maybe?) there is going to be a new way to structure corps internally using an actual RANK system. This goes hand in hand with the medal system, etc...
Perhaps, as Drilla said, there could be a forum that is tied in with that ranking system that allows only people with certian roles to post to it?
EDIT - I don't think you should have to be in an alliance, just in a corp with the correct role. Granted, it wouldn't solve everything, but it would be a step in the right direction. -
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Caybn E''vangel on 13/12/2005 10:24:51
Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 13/12/2005 10:07:32
Then there is a inter-galactic communication area where all alliance members can read but only those people the corps in the alliance deem as worthy can post.
I think this is an excellent idea, and should be put in practice if at all possible.
Even the most thickheaded of "smaktards" would think twice if they were risking their whole corps ability to voice it's say in an important fora.
edit: this would of course rely on the ceo only giving posting abilities to worthy speakers
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:21:00 -
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Lol.
Great minds Seleene ;)
(maybe one of us is really a schizo?)
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/12/2005 10:19:57 I disagree with Drillas suggestion, its not only the people in alliances that have effect on the world the alliances reside in. KIA have had, and will continue to have, many a say on the lifes and times of the ALliances of Eve, and we often have input of value and importamce when it comes to the threads discussing the everyday situations of alliances.
That said, having a forum where only people that have designated corp rights to post can post, would be a very very good place to start.
I understand your dilemma here EddZ, but then there should be some sort of a timelimit on people (so if you are under 30 days old you cant post, if your corp is less than 3 months old you cant post etc.) but again that would not really solve anything just make more work.
An alternative could be to grant 1 year old corporations access but againt that would cause a coding addition to the boards and what about new corps based on old corps etc.
I honestly think my idea is the only simple way forward.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:40:00 -
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Abdalion speaks the truth, I used to be a mod of a very active board and ofcourse we had the same problem there. But it all solved itself when the members stopped caring about what the alts were saying. Just ignore them and they will go away. The people who really want troll will find the ways to do that anyways, I do not think the difference will be that much
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:56:00 -
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Why not have a smack forum too, so that all the 1337 omgpwnz0r jockeys can tell each other how ghey they are and that their respective corps suck at PvP? Thats like 99% of the flames and trolling eliminated in one go?
Alternatively, people could just grow up.
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