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Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:12:00 -
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To whom it may concern,
I have a serious concern, which I hope to be rectified by CCP.
As a paying customer I feel that I have been cheated.
I do not have a fleet to siege Jita to get this changed so I am hoping that it can be dealt with in a mature manner, and rectified by CCP in order to maintain customer good will.
The skills:
Destroyers BattleCruisers (and others that I cannot think of)
have all been converted into faction equivalents of the same name - adding massive amounts of time to a training ques, and of course more money.
Now I had those skills to level 4 - with only a short time to train them up.
I am happy to train one of those skills to level 5 - but I am very unhappy that 40+ days (rough calculation) has been added to my training que.
I have paid my money every month without issue, not in game currency
Yes I have lodged a ticket to get reimbursement but that was denied - with the excuse that it was announced in a blog somewhere months ago.
I do not have the time to read every blog on eve, to find out every miniscule detail.
What I would like to request from CCP is the following: May I please have the equivalent inject able skill points to allow me to fill the 3 of the 4 skills for both Destroyers and Battlecruisers as I said - im happy to train one of the skills but the 4 is just wrong.
Regards SF WolfPack.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
591
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:15:00 -
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Tough luck.
They announced it MONTHS ahead of time. You could have gotten it done. I know plenty of people who did.
You are literally asking to be compensated for your own ignorance. Not happening. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Jezza McWaffle
The-Hole-Idea Void-Legion
36
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:19:00 -
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Pretty sure it was announced over 6-12 months before... And if you don't check the launcher or the official site for updates then its nobody elses fault but yours. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
916
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:23:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:They announced it MONTHS ahead of time. You could have gotten it done.
Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |
Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
450
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:23:00 -
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Someone help, I got stuck in the past again. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
720
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:27:00 -
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Inb4...lalalalalalalallalalalalallalalallalalalallalalalalalalallalalalalalallalalallalalalalallalalalalallalalock.
OP, are you a troll 4 hire? I can pay you to rant about other things. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5254
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:30:00 -
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If only there was almost a year of advanced warning on this.
If only there were several devblogs, announcements, and 10 billion threads on the subject.
If only CCP flat came out and told you exactly what to do in order to get the free skills.
If only OP had read any of those or had paid one bit of attention.
If only. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
324
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:32:00 -
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Deer CCP,
I haz been slighted bi the archaic attribute system that was in effect be4 skill remaps and as such I was 4ced to train wit Memory az me hiest attribute 4 yrz becuz of it. Iwish dat you add inject SP to my sheet fur all the SP I mised in thet tym. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac |
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
34
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:32:00 -
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OP you're even late for the whine threads, this subject was gone over ages ago. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3079
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:33:00 -
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sad_trombone.wav
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5255
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:40:00 -
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Out of luck OP is out of luck. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:44:00 -
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I'm the 1st huh? Don't forget that.
1st of what?
To ask:
Can I have your stuff?
Sorry, could not police myself against the trolling wagon you will see here. Complaining in GD is like sitting in a pool of piranhas with your balls bleeding. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
164
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:46:00 -
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You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you? |
Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:48:00 -
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Thank you all for your mature responses.....they have been enlightening posts....
With that though, I am going to wait for CCP before making any decisions about in game and take a level 2 rating...
Link below = rating legend....
http://www.digdang.com/media/images/so_youre_mad_about_something_on_the_internet_5061.jpg |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5256
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:55:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote: With that though, I am going to wait for CCP before making any decisions about in game and take a level 2 rating...
Why would you wait to hear back from CCP...they already gave you a response according to your own testimony.
Shadowfreak wrote:Yes I have lodged a ticket to get reimbursement but that was denied - with the excuse that it was announced in a blog somewhere months ago.
So youre going to wait for an answer you already have.
You know when someone says they found something in the last place they looked? That's because after they found it, they stopped looking. You are apparently going to blow the doors off that with your own proprietary "I found what I was after but im going to keep looking anyways" method. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:58:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:What I would like to request from CCP is the following: May I please have the equivalent inject able skill points to allow me to fill the 3 of the 4 skills for both Destroyers and Battlecruisers as I said - im happy to train one of the skills but the 4 is just wrong Why would they change it back to how it was? They changed it for a reason.
I think it was announced a literal year before it changed, with reminders constantly heading up to the change. This wasn't a small minor detail ported away in some notes somewhere - it was very, very publicly announced.
Literal client log on messages and everything. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:07:00 -
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Im a newb and joined before the skill split and wasnt given enough time to max out my bc v skill and now my skills are 40 days longer. I also want reimbursed for being teased by ccp about how vets get all the cake and eat it too |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
155
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:08:00 -
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1/10
some people thought you where serious |
Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:09:00 -
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The eve community, of all communities, should realise that just because CCP says "no" does not necessarily means "no" and that decisions can be reversed or an agreement reached.
The legend of the Jita sieges have proven that.
But if no-one makes a stand then it is our own faults for allowing it to happen. In EVE you have to fight for what you want.
I like playing eve - especially since I have started playing incursions, but If CCP does not want customer satisfaction and $180 a year of my money (plus plex purchases I make with real money), for a simple database entry, then so be it.
I am just as happy to pay the same $500 a year into World of Tanks or the up coming World of Warships mmo, or even better, I am happy give the money away to my WolfPack members.
Being a wealthy person, I have those options and I am selecting to exercise that option: keep me satisfied as a customer or im leaving.
I am not trying to be rude, but think about it like this, World of Warcraft did the same thing to its customers, did not respect them and now they are losing millions of players, I hope CCP does not do the same thing.
The crux of the matter is this - I am not asking for anything extra ordinary, or demanding extra special circumstances, I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
232
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:11:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:But if no-one makes a stand then it is our own faults for allowing it to happen. In EVE you have to fight for what you want.
Man, you've already had their answer. Are you hoping someone's going to ride up on a white horse and change everything? |
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Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:12:00 -
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I do not wish them to change it back - im happy for it to be the way that it is
I had level 4 on battlecruisers and destroyers
just give me skill points to inject equal to the value of 3/4 skill points for level for both skills - im happy to train 1 of the 4 skills to 5 to fill my end of the agreement.
thats all...nothing extra extraordinary |
Jezza McWaffle
The-Hole-Idea Void-Legion
36
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:14:00 -
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There never was an agreement though. An agreement is a mutually ageed (usually) document which specifies how both parties may act.
They informed you of the changes to the BS and DS skills. They also informed you what you can fly before you can fly after.
Whether or not you took on board this information is your responsibility not theirs. You were given over 1 year which was ample time to train ever single BC skills from 0 - 5. |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
265
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:15:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:I do not wish them to change it back - im happy for it to be the way that it is
I had level 4 on battlecruisers and destroyers
just give me skill points to inject equal to the value of 3/4 skill points for level for both skills - im happy to train 1 of the 4 skills to 5 to fill my end of the agreement.
thats all...nothing extra extraordinary
So in short you want them to make an exception for you and none of the others who might have missed out?
They posted many warnings which you did not read. It is far too late. CCP has already given you your answer. |
Akemi Kiyoura
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
8
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:20:00 -
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I was going to sit down, hold your hand through the process and link you to all of the devblogs that were posted. Then I looked you up in game.
A 2010 player, and you had NEVER heard of the skill changes? You were 100% unaware? More importantly, you had never bothered to check the devblogs? I find that hard to believe. Train the skills and enjoy your queue. |
Andracin
Sickology
163
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:28:00 -
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"Oh Mr. Police Officer, I do not always read traffic signs, why must I be penalized for not reading? If you penalize me for not reading I am going to take my car to another country and never drive in your country again!"
0/10 terribad troll |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:52:00 -
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OP, I think Flakey's sig says it best: We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
As I have previously said, if you feel the need to write the word unfair in your post you are just wrong. |
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
35
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:54:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:The eve community, of all communities, should realise that just because CCP says "no" does not necessarily means "no" and that decisions can be reversed or an agreement reached.
The legend of the Jita sieges have proven that.
But if no-one makes a stand then it is our own faults for allowing it to happen. In EVE you have to fight for what you want.
I like playing eve - especially since I have started playing incursions, but If CCP does not want customer satisfaction and $180 a year of my money (plus plex purchases I make with real money), for a simple database entry, then so be it.
I am just as happy to pay the same $500 a year into World of Tanks or the up coming World of Warships mmo, or even better, I am happy give the money away to my WolfPack members.
Being a wealthy person, I have those options and I am selecting to exercise that option: keep me satisfied as a customer or im leaving.
I am not trying to be rude, but think about it like this, World of Warcraft did the same thing to its customers, did not respect them and now they are losing millions of players, I hope CCP does not do the same thing.
The crux of the matter is this - I am not asking for anything extra ordinary, or demanding extra special circumstances, I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"
go...... at the very lease we will be saved from threads of "i am wealthy and i should be granted special treatment"
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Xavier Higdon
Breakwater Holding Inc.
7
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:33:00 -
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Just to point out the obvious, $500 is a drop in a bucket. Hell, I'd be willing to donate that to CCP. If you're so rich just buy PLEX, sell it in game for ISK and buy a beefed up toon. But if you want to measure epeens, I'm wealthy enough to dump so much PLEX into the game that you'd never be able to afford a new toon. And I'm pretty damn sure I'm not richest person playing EvE, but I'm certain I'm richer than you. I always have my yard sticks handy for epeen measuring. Wanna get your ruler out? |
MacKael
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:36:00 -
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Poor guy I feel bad for you. Really really bad. |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:05:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:Being a wealthy person, I have those options and I am selecting to exercise that option: keep me satisfied as a customer or im leaving.
Placed a bounty on your head so you will be feeling a WANTED person just like everyone else here.
Ahh, don't forget, I was the 1st to ask you stuff, right? If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
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