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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:49:00 -
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Well I didn't start stealing yet since RMR, I expect all miners to be triggerhappy, and expecting us.
So I'm gonna wait a few days for them not to be as alert (do a few missions etc.) then I'll start testing the new techniques. The main thing bugging me is that we can't even shoot back in a hauler. Maybe it's time for a new thief's ship...
But anyways I'm making a call to all professional ore thieves to unite, maybe merge some corps, or make a thieves guild.
It's time for us to be strong, answer back, and get back our territories.
May all thieves, contrabanders, and people who work on the medium and dark dark side contact me by mail, at least to know who is seriously in the business.
I will keep anonymous the identities of those who wish to remain secret, of course...
And there will be a spy filtering mechanism
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Aora
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:51:00 -
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Hehe.. "professional ore thieves" sorry that just made me laugh.. Consider this a bump.
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Sonreir
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:53:00 -
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Sounds good to me. Less ore thieves in n00b corps can only be a good thing. 
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:55:00 -
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hehe, this should be fun 
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Saskatchewan Pirate
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:56:00 -
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Note to you ore-thifes:
Everyone hates you, go play world of warcraft
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beaverbrooks
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:02:00 -
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One does not simply ore theif their way into mordor.
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MuffinsRevenger
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:03:00 -
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 Originally by: beaverbrooks
One does not simply ore theif their way into mordor.
wery true, common mistake by manny witch cause them to frequently lose ships to concord
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Solator Auxilium
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: beaverbrooks
One does not simply ore theif their way into mordor.
LMAO
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:27:00 -
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PLEASE DEAR GOD ALL ORE THIEVES BAND TOGETHER NOW!
I can see it now, hundreds of month old morons who's greatest accomplishment is "badger MkII" all gathering together into one corp so that they will be all the easier to hunt down and annihilate to the last man, woman, and sniveling little sack of [colorful metaphor] as just revenge for all the thieving your sleaziness has done over the years.
I'm already all to happy to lye in wait for your stupid kind to saunter up like you own the place, nose into my can, take some ore and just then realize that itÆs a very small amount and LOCK BOOM! A full salvo of justice laden hellfire delivered personally by a person thatÆs never been stolen from but IÆd be all too happy to set a trap for your worthless behind.
I strongly encourage players setting up mining operations to have a heavy hitter among their ranks with a web and scrambler/disruptor (if for some reason they are in a transport and you need to sit and pummel them for a little while). Have that person drop your jettison cans for you and just donÆt gang them (not ganging explained in a minute). Now whenever a flying pustule decides he wants some of the groupsÆ ore, heÆll get the unfortunate shock that one of the battleship miners isnÆt a miner! LOCK BOOM.
Now I bet youÆre wondering why you wouldnÆt gang this friend seeding your cans and killing your thieves? Simple, to prevent the thieves from baiting you like you baited them, your ganged members had nothing to do with the complete hide tanning of the worthless thief, so no retaliation is possible without CONCORD acting as a mediator (read as vaporizes any moron suicidal enough to attack an innocent gang). Meanwhile, if some sort of retaliation is to come from the nuking of the ore thief, it having been a totally legal kill, the ganker friend can just run back to base and dock safely till the heat dies down and no revenge from the thieves friends can be sought (as if thieves have friends).
Once the timer for any possible retaliation is passed, then itÆs back again to full power of ganking thieves.
Now the running to base to hide for a bit is HIGHLY unlikely to be a necessity as most thieves arenÆt in a player corp anyway or they would have a wave of war declarations and the following annihilation, also, having non-ganged friends may be enticing enough for one of the thieves idiot friends to take a shot at, and CONCORD would again explain to them what they did wrongà with laser beams, and explosions, and the hurting, and not so nice feelings in the rump.
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Tophereon
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:34:00 -
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You have had this coming for a loooong time!!!
And you know what.... 99.99% of eve don't give a **** about you lazy ass theives!!! 
hahahahahahahahahaha
Toph.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:43:00 -
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A bunch of lying, cheating scum that play the bad guy in game because there geeky wimps in rl banding together as one...
Yeah right, and the pope is about to become protestant...
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Darquies Shade
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:50:00 -
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WOW, that i have to say there is a lot of Venting going on in here. but what do you all expect when for a time you were all safe, hiding behind"red tape". I do believe that ore thievery will drop considerably. But only time shall tell
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I Protect The Helpless From The Heartless
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Halgari
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:54:00 -
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What's the big deal? I'm not a theif, but I think it's cool that someone is the bad guy. Gives more cannon fodder for the bounty hunters to find. EVE's a dangerous world. I think having a theif guild is realistic.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sessho Seki
I strongly encourage players setting up mining operations to have a heavy hitter among their ranks with a web and scrambler/disruptor
snip...
Just get 3-4 guys a few thousand metres away from you and have them cloak. Scum pops into belt, see's hauler and barges thinking he has time to grab before backup comes, then un-cloak, jam and lock.
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Saleia
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:56:00 -
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This is really going to be fun...
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:58:00 -
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Ore tiefs forming a corp is a good thing. So once you have it all setup send me the name of your corp for thieves and I'll be sure to put it my addresbook. I'm very happy that you guys came to such briliant solution banding up is allways a good thing the corp is even better. And remember to send me the name of the corp.
good luck with the corp
G.G
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Malena VXXI
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Posted - 2005.12.16 17:58:00 -
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O yea Im going too sit and wait with my Raven loaded too the teeth with missiles :) cloaked and in group while Im mine with my other chars
Darn revenge is sweet
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Glarion Garnier
Ore tiefs forming a corp is a good thing. So once you have it all setup send me the name of your corp for thieves and I'll be sure to put it my addresbook. I'm very happy that you guys came to such briliant solution banding up is allways a good thing the corp is even better. And remember to send me the name of the corp.
LOL, pass the details on to me?
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zBaka
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:06:00 -
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god i cant wait to steal some ore..
just going to go visit asteroid belts in my HAC and steal the cans in hopes that someone will fire at me..
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:11:00 -
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pfhhh!
I like always get the usual answers from you bird brained gorillas.
pfhhh!
Acting like thugs on a computer game makes you guys feel tough? Well listen up I really don't mind you masturb@ting whiners being mad, on the opposite... You're the guys who make stealing fun.
If I could get out of my pod you wouldn't even dare talk to me like that (as in real life), and if you did I'd probably break your noses all at a time...
haha
Signed: hedious ore thief who doesn't care about your complainings...
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ryctor on 16/12/2005 18:19:49
You militant carebears are pretty ****ed off. Maybe you all need a vacation from mining veldspar all day long. If you want some pvp action I'm sure Istvaan wont mind if you want to war dec a corp that harbors an ore thief.
Stealing Ore since since the summer of 96 baby 
PPS~ Blue man calm down. Dont listen to the lame flamers, and you might want to edit the breaking nose thing. Nothing gets a topic locked faster than RL threats.
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Demadred
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tophereon
You have had this coming for a loooong time!!!
And you know what.... 99.99% of eve don't give a **** about you lazy ass theives!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha
Toph.
As many people don't care about those lazy ass miners 
Why is it that people here talk about how stupid it is to make a corp of ore thiefs.
There was a lot talking about how lame ore thiefs were, because they were hiding in npc corps.
Now there's one who isn't lame so i wish him fun in ****ing those lazy miners off 
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Facetious One
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:29:00 -
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WEll Demard (Man what does that name rhyme with?)...Let me tell ya...If it was not for "Lazy A33 miners" you would not have a ship.....
What amazes me is the toon Boogereater....we all know him in soba......I am so amazed with his long time being here, and skills that he ore thieves from noobs....I am sure if he actually mined in an apoc or something...he would fill much more Ore in less time than running to and from noobs cans.....????
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:29:00 -
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Demandred pay no attention to the militant teddys. Back in 02 it was " If only you were in a corporation and stole ore, then we'd respect you" So Ryctor joined up with the Guiding Hand...yet no war decs came. Then it was " WAAAA all we want is to defend our ore...let us shoot the thiefs" RMR is out and guess what... after 6 hours of stealing last night no one fired a single shot at me.
Lazy miners will never change....just whine harder when they get beat at their own game.
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Olenir Theadorvin
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Olenir Theadorvin on 16/12/2005 18:38:32
I am not an Ore thief. I am not a pirate. Nor do I buy, sell, or haul contraband.
However, what is good about this game is that you can be those things. But you have to face the consequences of it going wrong. Up till now, there has been consequences for being caught by empire authorities carrying contraband items. There has been consequences for being a pirate (Though not quite enough. The new rules saying we're allowed revenge is better). There has, until now been no consequences for being an ore thief (that can lawfully be taken).
Adding those consequences has to only be a good thing. It makes the game more fun for everybody (except those that aren't grown up enough to accept the consequences of thier actions).
And having a thieve's guild is a viable idea I think. I, naturally won't be a part of it, but I should think some ore thieves could and probably shall band together for mutual protection, higher profits, and more organised crime. As long as they can take the risk being declared war on and shot on sight by many corparations in EVE that is .
After all, EVE has how many pirate corps (also operating "outside of the law"), and assassins corps (some of which are reputable "bounty hunters", others are not and are hired to assasinate those that CONCORD won't let you put a bounty on. What's wrong with the thieve's getting organised as well?
*EDIT: remember 'i' before 'e' except after 'c'
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Olenir Theadorvin,
Director, Cygnus United.
Views expressed within the forum do not necessarily represent those of the corporation. They certainly do not represent the views of a sane man |
Sarleena
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:35:00 -
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I'd be entertained by this. Stealth bombers would make excellent mining-op guards, 2-3 of them sitting around a belt, and as soon as a thief becomes a valid target, they decloak, and drop a half dozen cruise missiles on the hauler. That'd probably handle almost any hauler trying to steal your ores.
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the oth |
Megri
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Maestro Ulv
Yeah right, and the pope is about to become protestant...
Bringing up religious comments like this in the forums should get you kicked.
#1) Dont Talk about Race
#2) Dont Talk Religion
#3) Repeat and Rinse
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Demadred
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sarleena
I'd be entertained by this. Stealth bombers would make excellent mining-op guards, 2-3 of them sitting around a belt, and as soon as a thief becomes a valid target, they decloak, and drop a half dozen cruise missiles on the hauler.
Maybe some time ore thiefs will do the same 
When there are lots of wars going on with ore thiefs, then there will be pepole who join those thiefs just for the fun of pvp.
And there might be people joining who can fly stealth bombers.
But several frigs will also do the job.
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Taliac
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Taliac on 16/12/2005 18:57:09
At least there will be more battles in empire space, which is fun.
There will be people who will mine a bit just to kill those ore thiefs.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Megri
Originally by: Maestro Ulv
Yeah right, and the pope is about to become protestant...
Bringing up religious comments like this in the forums should get you kicked.
#1) Dont Talk about Race
#2) Dont Talk Religion
#3) Repeat and Rinse
Keep your "PC" to yourself please and the rest of the sheep. If you take offence then deal with it. If im a catholic that can take the mickey then deal with it. If im not then guess what.. deal with it.
A silly comment like mine will not get a thread locked however your targetted reply is extremely likely to now.
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Reprisa
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:26:00 -
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uhm. corp of ore thieves. no offense intended..but this will lead toa dozen war dec's, and a corp full of pod pilots.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:36:00 -
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Ooh, I tried some stealing already. Was funnier than ever. It's not going to get any hard actually, just ignore the couple guys mining in cruisers/battleships and pick on the others instead
The criminal flagging seems to be doing what they said but it just makes it slightly more interesting. Had some fun stealing ore already
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Budmeister
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Demandred pay no attention to the militant teddys. Back in 02 it was " If only you were in a corporation and stole ore, then we'd respect you" So Ryctor joined up with the Guiding Hand...yet no war decs came. Then it was " WAAAA all we want is to defend our ore...let us shoot the thiefs" RMR is out and guess what... after 6 hours of stealing last night no one fired a single shot at me.
Lazy miners will never change....just whine harder when they get beat at their own game.
Good lord your still around? Heh need to look up the threads where you proclaimed (whined) that can flagging would never happen.
Here's hoping you come to one of my mining ops!!
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Reprisa
uhm. corp of ore thieves. no offense intended..but this will lead toa dozen war dec's, and a corp full of pod pilots.
SHHHHHH man! jeeze! don't TELL them what will happen when they are so idiotic, err, "inventive" as to make their ownore thief corporation.
Errr uhhhh, nothing to see here carry on with your incredibly stupid, errr, sneaky (yeah that's a good word they'd like) plan to centralize ore theft.
no one here has ANY plans of ANY kind to get in your way of making a singular target, err corporation (yeah that's what I meant, really), in fact, I'd think many here would be all too happy to help you fund the founding of such a corporation. Not for personal motivations I assure you, but because they are such benevolent souls as to want nothing more than to help their fellow man in such an endeavor as making a ore thief corporation.
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HaulerBitch
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:43:00 -
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You thieves do make me laugh. I mean, how much money do u actually make stealing crappy loot and veldspar from people? Defunitely not as much as ud make running the missions to get the loot in the first place or mining ur own ore. If u form a corp people are never gonna leave u alone, so ur never gonna get big, never gonna do nething really important. If u could just aim a little highter, mebbe proper extortion or really clever scams i could respect you, but come on. Nicking half a can of veldspar from a n00b in 1.0? Do u really wonder why people look down on you so much?
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sessho Seki
SHHHHHH man! jeeze! don't TELL them what will happen when they are so idiotic, err, "inventive" as to make their ownore thief corporation.
Then of course they will be in here complaining of harresment and how unfair flagging is.. all over again!
But yeah, im with you and your "unselfish support" of this new corp.
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madnight
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:47:00 -
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You ore thiefs ***** me up to no end.. you have to be the stupidest peeps that ever lived. calling miners lazy????? who is the lazy one,, the guy spending all day to mine some ore for himself or the bum that comes up and takes it? get a life you bums
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hauler*****
I mean, how much money do u actually make stealing crappy loot and veldspar from people? Defunitely not as much as ud make running the missions to get the loot in the first place or mining ur own ore. If u form a corp people are never gonna leave u alone, so ur never gonna get big, never gonna do nething really important. If u could just aim a little highter, mebbe proper extortion or really clever scams i could respect you, but come on. Nicking half a can of veldspar from a n00b in 1.0? Do u really wonder why people look down on you so much?
You don't have to concentrate very much on constant playing while doing it. You can have breaks when you wish etc.
Last week I made some 20 millions out of stealing veldspar at 1.0, thanks for asking
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Jastra
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:52:00 -
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*rofl*
Too funny....yes please..start a corp of Ore Thieves.... I fear your mighty Iterons of doom ..LOL...sorry..this is just too funny
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:55:00 -
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Hmmm
Did I ask any of you guys' advice?
Did I ever ask anybody if he would like me if I was an ore thief?
Is the post entitled " give your advice and feeling about thiefs"?
NO, I believe NOT, so first you better learn to read, then learn to mind your own business, and then learn how to watch your cans, and talk about it on a separate post...
the post is entitled "message to ore thieves and contrabanders" I believe they should read the post
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Jastra
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Posted - 2005.12.16 19:57:00 -
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and when you get to puberty be sure to come and let us all know...mkay
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:00:00 -
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and that was another very mature answer, I congratumlate you, do you have another like that?
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Reprisa
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:01:00 -
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it took you a week to make 20 mil? Ouch man
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
you better learn to read, then learn to mind your own business,
Its a public forum you idiot, if you make the corp I pray to god that your the CEO in charge.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Reprisa
it took you a week to make 20 mil? Ouch man
It doesn't sound a lot most likely to many people but consider this:
1. It's entertainment too.
2. It doesn't require a battleship or a lot of trained skills. Even a newbie can do those 20 millions on his first playing week
3. It's very relaxed stuff.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Macro Slasher
3. It's very relaxed stuff.
Is this before or after your scrambled? Before or after you shot out of the air? and before or after you realise that as a noob you stand no chance of fighting back?
If your going to be a muppet at least train up so its not like killing babies.
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GBBUTT
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:16:00 -
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Heh i think i might just go mine in my brutix in eletta. Just letting people know i'll be mining in eletta....
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Beerwinch
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Macro Slasher
Originally by: Reprisa
it took you a week to make 20 mil? Ouch man
It doesn't sound a lot most likely to many people but consider this:
1. It's entertainment too.
2. It doesn't require a battleship or a lot of trained skills. Even a newbie can do those 20 millions on his first playing week
3. It's very relaxed stuff.
ROFLMAO!!!! This shows the mentality of ore thiefs.
I earn 20 million in a night.....with only the skills to fly a badger 2....and I dont have to steal from people....
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:19:00 -
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takes a look at being an ore theif from the macro miners and then them a) taking my stuff and counter attack or b) they attack me with thier pathetic setup then get toasted roasted nad BBQ'ed. Does that make me bad for removing them from the game ? they arent real game players anyway
As for ore theives well battleships might soon become a weapon of choice for ore theifing. I can also see this happening in low sec pirate drops some cans near the gate cloaks in his BC or BS - newbie comes along sees the cans doesnt thing to check local to see pirate. Takes can pirate uncloaks boom one dead traveller without sentry guns.
Could get interesting.
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Jastra
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:20:00 -
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and exactly how much Veldspar can you get in a BS Hold? - it'll hardly be mass theft now will it
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Cragg Shank
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:38:00 -
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Hi, new to this game, been playin for less than a week. Just a couple of passive observations here. Firstly if this pirating was so wrong then wouldn't the gm's just disable other player's from picking up cans that don't belong to them?
And secondly surely if this game was ...find rock...mine rock... take minerals home..repeat...wouldnt that be pointless and boring?
C'mon you guys are lovin this, and although i havent even thought about thinking about being a miner, fighter, pirate or even belly dancer yet, this whole situation in space seems realistic enough!
This main reasons i decided to play this game, was because of this kind of realism!
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cragg Shank
Hi, new to this game, been playin for less than a week. Just a couple of passive observations here. Firstly if this pirating was so wrong then wouldn't the gm's just disable other player's from picking up cans that don't belong to them?
The reason is that some people just love shouting that everything they dislike is BAD and should be banned. There is no rule against pirating or stealing. Never will be. The Eve Online game was designed so that you are allowed to play play versus player too.
In fact if you don't want to get anything stolen from you it's dead simple to stop it from happening and always has been. However some people just love shouting about their close minded views very hard.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ryctor on 16/12/2005 21:00:53
Originally by: Budmeister
Good lord your still around? Heh need to look up the threads where you proclaimed (whined) that can flagging would never happen.
Here's hoping you come to one of my mining ops!!
Luckly since I'm human i get to be wrong every once and a while. And I believe when i refered to the can flagging not being implamented it was always in the context of the thief never getting to return fire. But thats beside the point. They might as well left it out in the first place, because the flagging hasnt affected me at all. I stole ore for 6 hours last night and guess how many times i was fired apon......not even once.
PS ~ Bud just shoot me an evemail to where your mining op is and I'll be there.
PPS ~ God Damn my sig is sexy....
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:01:00 -
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Yes thank you and I always did believe ore thiefs were important for Role Playing. Even those who don't want to be role playing, genuinely role play the robbed miner.
You should read some of the messages we get, we used to send them to each other in my corp and die of laughter, especially the rudest ones they're the best.
But I would like to point out one thing. All those guys who think they're heroes are actually bragging about how they're able to shoot down a hauler: a big slow defenseless ship that can't fit more than 1 small turret. Way to go guys ! I am really impressed! You are Pvp champions! I wish I could be more like you
Another thing is like the guiding hand social club said. Since I started a few months ago, I always, always have robbed with a main, who's in a Thief corp. Anybody could have declared war on us, and some did (for a week). And no we didn't flea, or hide, or do anything apart from fitting warp core stabilisers to our ships...
But I don't know why I even am justifying myself to these goons anyways...
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cragg Shank
Hi, new to this game, been playin for less than a week. Just a couple of passive observations here. Firstly if this pirating was so wrong then wouldn't the gm's just disable
Ore thieving isnt pirating, I know several hardcore players that would take extreme offence at being mentioned in the same sentence as an ore thief.
Pirate by default take the fight to the poor sod thats on the end of there target lock. They fight and then take the loot, if they win.
Ore thieves merely sit in a hauler (if they intend to do the job proper) at the side of a tainer and wait for someone to drop something inside it. Not exactly comparable is it?
Until now they have also had immunity in safe space, something a low sec, bountied pirate does not have. You said your new so fine, you didn't know the difference. I hope you have some idea now.
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Jastra
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Maestro Ulv
Originally by: Cragg Shank
Hi, new to this game, been playin for less than a week. Just a couple of passive observations here. Firstly if this pirating was so wrong then wouldn't the gm's just disable
Ore thieving isnt pirating, I know several hardcore players that would take extreme offence at being mentioned in the same sentence as an ore thief.
Pirate by default take the fight to the poor sod thats on the end of there target lock. They fight and then take the loot, if they win.
Ore thieves merely sit in a hauler (if they intend to do the job proper) at the side of a tainer and wait for someone to drop something inside it. Not exactly comparable is it?
Until now they have also had immunity in safe space, something a low sec, bountied pirate does not have. You said your new so fine, you didn't know the difference. I hope you have some idea now.
What he said
[Coreli Mainframe]
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:04:00 -
[57]
yeah so why do you get podded in a frig by a HAC if pirating is such a noble job?
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:06:00 -
[58]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Hmmm
Did I ask any of you guys' advice?
Did I ever ask anybody if he would like me if I was an ore thief?
Is the post entitled " give your advice and feeling about thiefs"?
NO, I believe NOT, so first you better learn to read, then learn to mind your own business, and then learn how to watch your cans, and talk about it on a separate post...
the post is entitled "message to ore thieves and contrabanders" I believe they should read the post
Understand Public forum...numbnuts...
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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Jastra
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:07:00 -
[59]
it's risk vs reward....previously there were artificial barriers preventing true "RP" with ore thieves...now there is a risk vs reward...the balance is now there..and we'll see what happens
[Coreli Mainframe]
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:08:00 -
[60]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
yeah so why do you get podded in a frig by a HAC if pirating is such a noble job?
*I* don't. However if you get podded then your probably in low sec space, and if you went in with a frigate with out enough skills to get out of his way then you already have your answer. Your stupid.
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:13:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Maestro Ulv
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
yeah so why do you get podded in a frig by a HAC if pirating is such a noble job?
*I* don't. However if you get podded then your probably in low sec space, and if you went in with a frigate with out enough skills to get out of his way then you already have your answer. Your stupid.
Well I'll return that to you, If you're stupid enough to fill a container of several hours work while knowing there exists thieves, then it's because "you're stupid" (that's how you spell it)
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:13:00 -
[62]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Yes thank you and I always did believe ore thiefs were important for Role Playing. Even those who don't want to be role playing, genuinely role play the robbed miner.
You should read some of the messages we get, we used to send them to each other in my corp and die of laughter, especially the rudest ones they're the best.
But I would like to point out one thing. All those guys who think they're heroes are actually bragging about how they're able to shoot down a hauler: a big slow defenseless ship that can't fit more than 1 small turret. Way to go guys ! I am really impressed! You are Pvp champions! I wish I could be more like you
But I don't know why I even am justifying myself to these goons anyways...
Oh pls you just fly up to a can and drag ore to your hold...What a Role Playing Champion...Oh wait no, perhaps your just trying to start a flamefest. And I pretty much doubt this is your main.
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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Jozeph Spinne
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jozeph Spinne on 16/12/2005 21:15:45
Hmm... Ok....
I can tell you what has been happening so far:
4 or 5 Guys in PVP Srtup Ships. They Get together with a 6th guy in a Small Ceptor/Indy whatever.
The guy in a small ship goes into a Belt.. takes little Ore.... (remember/he is in a gang with the other guys). The poor carebear opens fire/or his friends, whatever, the other 5 Guys warp in and WTFpanwzor to the miner and friends. And I know its 100% because I been in those gangs.
CCP! THANK YOU! This is was the best way for me - not being able to do much PVP on my own and w/o Going to 0.0 to kill ALLOT OF SHIPS.
Oh an EDIT here: In my life I never stole ore before today! Because I thought it was silly till now.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:20:00 -
[64]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Well I'll return that to you, If you're stupid enough to fill a container of several hours work while knowing there exists thieves, then it's because "you're stupid" (that's how you spell it)
Lol, check your own posts before you comment on typo's please :)
As for the remark by the other guy about "how it is", I suppose that depends on your point of view. All i keep hearing about is how many thieves have fell into the same trap
Either way. Time will tell as usual.
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Budmeister
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:21:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Ryctor
Edited by: Ryctor on 16/12/2005 21:00:53
Originally by: Budmeister
Good lord your still around? Heh need to look up the threads where you proclaimed (whined) that can flagging would never happen.
Here's hoping you come to one of my mining ops!!
Luckly since I'm human i get to be wrong every once and a while. And I believe when i refered to the can flagging not being implamented it was always in the context of the thief never getting to return fire. But thats beside the point. They might as well left it out in the first place, because the flagging hasnt affected me at all. I stole ore for 6 hours last night and guess how many times i was fired apon......not even once.
PS ~ Bud just shoot me an evemail to where your mining op is and I'll be there.
PPS ~ God Damn my sig is sexy....
No need for eve mail I can just tell you now - look for me around the A2 Pipe I'll leave a light on for you
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Saelek
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:26:00 -
[66]
Bah people assume a theif will just sit next to their can and wait for their speedy demise the aformentioned theif can just be aligned b4 removing the can contents
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:27:00 -
[67]
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Yes thank you and I always did believe ore thiefs were important for Role Playing. Even those who don't want to be role playing, genuinely role play the robbed miner.
You should read some of the messages we get, we used to send them to each other in my corp and die of laughter, especially the rudest ones they're the best.
But I would like to point out one thing. All those guys who think they're heroes are actually bragging about how they're able to shoot down a hauler: a big slow defenseless ship that can't fit more than 1 small turret. Way to go guys ! I am really impressed! You are Pvp champions! I wish I could be more like you
But I don't know why I even am justifying myself to these goons anyways...
Oh pls you just fly up to a can and drag ore to your hold...What a Role Playing Champion...Oh wait no, perhaps your just trying to start a flamefest. And I pretty much doubt this is your main.
yeah I love your haircut by the way, and yes people like you could have declared war, and I don't know about what you guys are complaining about since you got the patch that enables you to shoot thieves while they can't shoot back.
I thought we already had this conversation in a previous post named "why such a big war against ore thieves", that's why I don't like the fact we are all discussing our advice about theft and I'd rather this thread be left for thieves to discuss with each other, or at least people who have things to say other than "theft is bad, and I will shoot you"...
I really wonder if thieves aren't the smarter population of eve
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
that's why I don't like the fact we are all discussing our advice about theft and I'd rather this thread be left for thieves to discuss with each other, or at least people who have things to say other than "theft is bad, and I will shoot you"...
I really wonder if thieves aren't the smarter population of eve
Then make a private forum and password it, You can't seriously expect people to not comment on a public forum about a hotly debated topic.. can you!?
Hell ill even host it for you and write the damn software if needed, course ill also have admin password so i can see what your saying
But seriously, your argument for privacy is flawed and you must know it. Post a link to said forums and your far more likely to stand a chance of keeping it on the topic you desire.
Hmmm, making sure there are no spies however will be hard.
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Meryl Stryfe
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
yeah so why do you get podded in a frig by a HAC if pirating is such a noble job?
In high sec, make sure you smack and p1ss off the miner real good. You WANT him to pod you with his faction BS. The shame is not being able to see the fireworks afterwards.
(Can flag only applies to ships, for the curious.)
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Budmeister
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:47:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Saelek
Bah people assume a theif will just sit next to their can and wait for their speedy demise the aformentioned theif can just be aligned b4 removing the can contents
You have heard of warp scramblers I assume?
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griff1972
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:50:00 -
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LMAO. im going to steal as much ore as I can now knowing the new patch is out, as I will be able to have so much more fun knowing my ship called the ore thief can take your hard enernd mins before you can blink an eye lid
and trust me its got after burner, mwd and a cloaking thingy
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:51:00 -
[72]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Yes thank you and I always did believe ore thiefs were important for Role Playing. Even those who don't want to be role playing, genuinely role play the robbed miner.
You should read some of the messages we get, we used to send them to each other in my corp and die of laughter, especially the rudest ones they're the best.
But I would like to point out one thing. All those guys who think they're heroes are actually bragging about how they're able to shoot down a hauler: a big slow defenseless ship that can't fit more than 1 small turret. Way to go guys ! I am really impressed! You are Pvp champions! I wish I could be more like you
But I don't know why I even am justifying myself to these goons anyways...
Oh pls you just fly up to a can and drag ore to your hold...What a Role Playing Champion...Oh wait no, perhaps your just trying to start a flamefest. And I pretty much doubt this is your main.
yeah I love your haircut by the way, and yes people like you could have declared war, and I don't know about what you guys are complaining about since you got the patch that enables you to shoot thieves while they can't shoot back.
I thought we already had this conversation in a previous post named "why such a big war against ore thieves", that's why I don't like the fact we are all discussing our advice about theft and I'd rather this thread be left for thieves to discuss with each other, or at least people who have things to say other than "theft is bad, and I will shoot you"...
I really wonder if thieves aren't the smarter population of eve
Well the "smarter population of eve" is missing a couple of points about "public forums".
Is totaly unable to recognise sarcasm. Oh and seem to be totaly immune to the irony of some little risk averse annoyance complaining about miners that can now if they wish take instant revenge against ore thives.
Which also has risks if its a come on for a ambush. So the one that did not have any real risk pre-RMR is complaining now the playing field.
Ore thives will have built a fair amount of ill will, and now it has consequences. Enjoy em.
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:57:00 -
[73]
Originally by: griff1972
and trust me its got after burner, mwd and a cloaking thingy
New player i presume? Otherwise you would know that you cannot use the AB and MWD at the same time and your "cloaking thingy" is rendered useless the second someone starts to lock you.
And if they do indeed lock and scramble you with those three wasted fittings your one dead duck.
Dark, if your going to make that corp then I suggest training guys like this before they set off 
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.16 22:30:00 -
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yeah well MWD is a good Idea, but won't fit on an industrial, you need a transport for that. As for cloaking I didn't train it yet, I'm sure it can help, but haven't figured how yet.
And maestro the corp has been existing for several months already, but anyone can join...
... join the fun, hehe
Since many have lost the thread of the post I remind the subject: " thieves contact me(have ore BPOs, BPCs, money). And I am looking for a way for us to organise ourselves better and be united against the thieve haters"
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griff1972
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Posted - 2005.12.16 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: griff1972 on 16/12/2005 22:38:48
trust me i can open ur can and run before you know what you cat has had for dinner
just ask jayaky our corp jester
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2005.12.16 23:15:00 -
[76]
Originally by: griff1972
Edited by: griff1972 on 16/12/2005 22:38:48
trust me i can open ur can and run before you know what you cat has had for dinner
Come steal from us. Please.
We need a laugh.
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FlashmanUK
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Posted - 2005.12.17 01:11:00 -
[77]
A) Its a game, dont get personal.
B) you know the risks before you perform your rightous act of retribution manifested by the appropriate catylst, personifeid in this case by ore theives. They know the risks, you know the risks, its always been there, can flagging isnt gonna change much. Mine in groups and mine into indys, my corp has been plagued with ore theives recently, should stop solo theives but aleast now you know that if a indy comes along its probably an ambush.
Im interested that its miners that kick up the fuss and not mission runners? Dont get me wrong, im an avid miner, and ive been ore theifed many a time, thats why i mine in a group usually. CCP wants to kill off solo players methinks.
Dont forget, the can flagging was there to give you the choice to retalliate, its not mandatory.
Anywho its 1:10am, thats my 2 isk.
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TIELKERON
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Posted - 2005.12.17 01:53:00 -
[78]
Me sits in ambush apoc w/1 mining laser going justa waiting for the next ore thief
10 down a bunch to go
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Thorion Mortisfilius
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Posted - 2005.12.17 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Thorion Mortisfilius on 17/12/2005 02:19:48
I truly hope people aren't getting as irate as they sound. In-game I'm primarily a miner. I play the miner screaming for vengeance, justice and prone to irrational acts of lunacy when I get robbed. I sacrificed a thorax to Concord guns attacking an ore thief. Was hoping my drones would kill the hauler before Concord got me. lol...I was wrong. Out of game...ore-thieves add flavor to the game. They make a inherently repetitive and mindless act into someting different. The miner comes up with different strategies to keep their ore safe and the thieves counter with strategies of their own. All is done in good fun. Not unlike the thief who came out to my can only to find a single round of a small projectile which I used to make them waste their time and keep guessing when I am actually using a jet-can for ore. There was a light banter between us that I believe was in good fun on both sides and we both went our ways with no disruption to the mutual enjoyment of the game. Likewise I have had ore stolen where I called their persona all kinds of names but never once verbally attacked the person playing. I even had one player compensate me monetarily for the ore she stole because when all was said and done, we both enjoyed the short period of time I tracked her down and locked her. In the end, the ore stolen from me has been less than 1% of my total take and not worth getting worked up over.
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2005.12.17 02:22:00 -
[80]
Number 1 rule. Be smarter than your prey. Any ore theives out there contact me ingame.
I am no ore theif but I am having fun at the moment :]
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Freya Selene
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Posted - 2005.12.17 02:27:00 -
[81]
The ways of a thief:
Fill you industrail lowslots with stabelisers.
Allign to warp out
Clean those messy cans
Wait to get shot for aggresion
Warp/dock.
Grab your ultragangstyle ship
Fly back and waste the miner and grab his gear as well
.... i think thiefes will become even a more specialised profession...
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beaverbrooks
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Posted - 2005.12.17 17:15:00 -
[82]
Yup thats Exactly the Idea, months ago i thought it would be a good idea to flag theifs, and it still might be.. But If my guess is right (once a miner shoots at you for stealing you can return fire without being concorded) then you completely annhilate the poor miner.
One thing would fix the "coming back with a battleship" is making the theif unable to shoot back opon docking/changing ships and warping back to the belt. Or not being allowed to return fire at any point what so ever.
I think CPP will shortly understand how they just made the situation a whole lot worse and nerf the self defence of ore thiefs completely.
^^ I'm going to laugh at the pro ore theifs that b***h there brains out when that happens, and im betting it will.
I highly doubt CPP will stand for battleships stealing ore now instead of whatever indy that used to do it.
But hopefully not before i get a ***** at the noobs.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.12.17 17:57:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Ryctor on 17/12/2005 18:03:08
Originally by: Insightful Carebearitus
I think CPP will shortly understand how they just made the situation a whole lot worse ...
Because avon, myself, tenaj, ashley sky and the rest didnt predict this a year ago or nothing. Sadly, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. Thanks again CCP for giving me a griefing tool of unimaginable evilness.
PPS ~ God Damn my sig is sexy....but not as sexy as Avon.
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2005.12.17 18:01:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Saskatchewan Pirate
Note to you ore-thifes:
Everyone hates you, go play world of warcraft
But I feel very much loved, and quite comfortable here!
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2005.12.17 18:08:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Siren Shiva on 17/12/2005 18:08:00
meh, blame the lag.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.17 18:09:00 -
[86]
Originally by: beaverbrooks
I think CPP will shortly understand how they just made the situation a whole lot worse and nerf the self defence of ore thiefs completely.
What they did was that they forced both sides to start using some tactics instead of just clicking one button for the victory. It made the life of both thieves and victims way more interesting. Both can win, both can lose. Both have always equal chances there. It's very sweet.
I was at first very much against the thought but I have seen now both sides working occasionally in the game. It's very very sweet. Please note that there are some side effects. They will most likely go mostly away when the people learn about the new rules. All kinds of madness is possible for a while before that happens. Later it'll get saner.
But nerf the self defence of ore thiefs completely? That's one of the lamest thoughts I have heard in a while. It would allow some lame skilless sobs keep pressing one button for victory all over and over again if the thieving was really removed. The new system forces miners to get into packs and stop mining in some uber-lame 1.0 systems. So, it drives people forward wether they like it or not. And that's good.
Also once more I see some people are making the delusional false assumption that there is something inherently wrong in thievery. There isn't. It's what happens in real life and in the game too. You always could have protected against it extremely well and now are able too. Quote honestly it has taken a complete retard to get your stuff stolen
What next? You call all that shooting at other player ships too just wrong because omg they can lose their ships? Hey, let's remove all the weapons from the ships so that no one gets hurt.  Pfft. That's just plain lame.
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DarkBluePanther007
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Posted - 2005.12.18 05:59:00 -
[87]
I just want to repeat...
Yeah I believe thieves were doing good to the game, and adding just a little challenge for miners who always mine in 1.0 without taking any risks and creating lag etc.
Yeah I believe it's unfair to shoot a guy in hauler who can't fight back. And in real life if you kill a thief for stealing your wallet you go to jail.
Yeah I'd rather you say: "we the pvpers who have been playing for several years and who can only be killed by pvpers playing several years, want EVE to be only a pvp game and when we loose our ships we want to be able to afk mine with an alt in 1.0 space."
The result of this flagging is: bringing back pvpers to 1.0 which is already saturated and laggy, rendering useless team mining (hauler+miner), rendering useless secure containers for miners (watch the prices fall), and rendering more usefull mining in a BC or BS...
And my decision now, is to (with a little skill training) trap miners in a horrible evil way I would have never done before. Us thieves are going to become monsters
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2005.12.18 06:14:00 -
[88]
So, if we take from a can, they can shoot us but we cannot defend ourselves?
Originally by: Nyphur
I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2005.12.18 06:29:00 -
[89]
Thieves will develop new techniques and instead of congratulating you for teamwork and cleverness, they will just ask the devs for more nerfs.
It doesn't matter.
Carebears will not be happy until there is NO piracy or theft in this game.
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2005.12.18 07:41:00 -
[90]
Originally by: DarkBluePanther007
Edited by: DarkBluePanther007 on 16/12/2005 18:26:36
Edited by: DarkBluePanther007 on 16/12/2005 18:26:12
pfhhh!
I like always get the usual answers from you bird brained gorillas.
pfhhh!
Acting like thugs on a computer game makes you guys feel tough? Well listen up I really don't mind you masturb@ting whiners being mad, on the opposite... You're the guys who make stealing fun.
If I could get out of my pod you wouldn't even dare talk to me like that (as in real life), and if you did I'd probably ***edited*** your noses all at a time...
haha
Signed: hedious ore thief who doesn't care about your complainings...
You invalidated your own first (mostly correct) statement, with the second one m8.
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Fooball
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Posted - 2005.12.18 12:29:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Tony Fats
Carebears will not be happy until there is NO piracy or theft in this game.
And shooting. Destroying other ships is bad. They want to replace it all with witty argumentation.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.18 12:33:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Fooball
Originally by: Tony Fats
Carebears will not be happy until there is NO piracy or theft in this game.
And shooting. Destroying other ships is bad. They want to replace it all with witty argumentation.
Argumentation:
1# The presentation and elaboration of an argument or arguments.
2# Deductive reasoning in debate.
3# A debate
Now define carebear?
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Angelic Resolution
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Posted - 2005.12.18 13:13:00 -
[93]
Yes.. please unite ore thieve. I'll even donate 5 million to the corp if you get more then 50 members.
And a hint to you thieves: There are amusing tricks to be played on would-be gankers ;) But be carefull, I aint a would-be; I litterally will kill you.
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