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Sennju Zensu
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Posted - 2005.12.17 12:41:00 -
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where is the option if i need to annul a job??
like BPO in ME research... cannot annul that??? so when we begin a job its "locked"...
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Yoda
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Posted - 2005.12.17 12:47:00 -
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Its stuck in there at the moment, waiting for ccp to add a cancel button.
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Sennjya Zensu
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Posted - 2005.12.17 12:58:00 -
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no CANCEL button    
OMFG lol i think CCP gonna add this soon 
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Ghostfire
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Posted - 2005.12.18 11:16:00 -
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I was under the impression there would be no cancel button? |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.18 15:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Ghostfire
I was under the impression there would be no cancel button?
Hard to think of a reason for one. Just don't put a bpo into research unless you want it researched?
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Dagam
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Posted - 2005.12.18 19:02:00 -
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Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure. It was tremendously convenient and I don't know why they removed the feature.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.18 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dagam
Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure.
Which part of "don't put a bpo into research unless you actually want it researched" was so hard to understand?
Boohoo, you'll actually have to think and make decisions now. What a bummer.
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Mindblank
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Posted - 2005.12.18 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Dagam
Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure.
Which part of "don't put a bpo into research unless you actually want it researched" was so hard to understand?
Boohoo, you'll actually have to think and make decisions now. What a bummer.
Just wait until you by mistake ad an extra zero to the me research on a HAC or something...
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Stuu's 2ndWife
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:19:00 -
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Ok, I filed a pertetion yesturday on this issue as had typed the wrong number of runs (Doh!). But basicly they are going to fix it by putting a cancel job function that is what the GM informed me any way.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Just wait until you by mistake ad an extra zero to the me research on a HAC or something...
Since I actually read what I'm keying in, that's not likely to happen.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.12.19 11:15:00 -
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thin kieron said they were working on it, should be in this week
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Dagam
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Dagam
Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure.
Which part of "don't put a bpo into research unless you actually want it researched" was so hard to understand?
Boohoo, you'll actually have to think and make decisions now. What a bummer.
The devs are working on a fix to allow us to cancel jobs. Guess you'll have to live with it.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:26:00 -
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The devs said that the lack of a cancel button is NOT an accident.
They also said that manufacturing/research jobs much longer than a week should not be going through, there's supposed to be a restriction there.
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Kralizec
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Posted - 2005.12.25 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kralizec on 25/12/2005 19:41:15
I'd say either a restriction in time allowed or a cancel button is acceptable.
A buddy of mine has "locked" his bpo on research by accident for 2 months as he didnt know the lack of a cancel button since RMR.
Everybody makes mistakes, you already pay for the mistake by wasting the materials used for that batch when canceling.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.25 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kralizec
A buddy of mine has "locked" his bpo on research by accident for 2 months as he didnt know the lack of a cancel button since RMR.
Whether or not there's a cancel button doesn't cause him to place it in research for 2 months. Him placing it research for 2 months does that. That's HIS fault.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2005.12.25 21:42:00 -
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Future inclusion of a CANCEL button is like the carrier situation. We're not getting a straight answer from anyone.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.12.26 15:51:00 -
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there should be a cancel button.
Now, I could see some drawback to it, IE, if you put a BPO into a lab to research ME 100 times, and you cancel after 30 would be complete, you lose all accumulated ME research. You would still have to have the Delievery completed to have the BPo changed/copied. Or manufactering done.
This would prevent people from using it just to fill up labs as "placeholders", until something important comes along. And if they made an honest mistake, they can get their job out and fix it.
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Abigail101
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Posted - 2005.12.26 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vishnej
The devs said that the lack of a cancel button is NOT an accident.
They also said that manufacturing/research jobs much longer than a week should not be going through, there's supposed to be a restriction there.
Researching Tremor small t2 projectile ammo to me1 takes 15 days so I'm not sure how that can work out (Think a one run * 1500 copy is 3 months)
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.12.31 19:05:00 -
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When I put my BP in there was no indication of how long it would take. If there was a change to not allow cancel it only makes sense that a warning would appear to that effect.
My BP is in for 53 days. Imagine how the other folks feel that want to use that lab slot...
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ZYMOTICAL
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Posted - 2006.01.01 19:18:00 -
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First off, it doesn't tell you HOW LONG the research will take before you submit the job. Some people calculate the ME level they would like it researched to and then simply set it, without looking at the time on the blueprint per ME level. Granted, that is their fault and they should be more careful.
Secondly, there has always been a cancel button. I didn't see in the patch notes anything that said "Oh yeah, guys, we're removing the cancel button" so I had no reason to suspect that this had changed until I went to cancel a blueprint research. How should I somehow know that a fundamental rule on factories and labs has changed if it wasn't in the patch notes?
Now my blueprint is in the factory for a month, like I originally wanted it to be, but I was unable to eject it temporarily to fill an order. I've lost money ingame because either someone forgot to code in a cancel button or someone forgot to type it in the patch notes.
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ZYMOTICAL
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Posted - 2006.01.02 20:39:00 -
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There should be ONE queue line for research and ONE for manufacturing for each station.
Each job should be held at PENDING status until a slot becomes free. When a slot is free, the first job in Queue should be assigned to that slot.
If a job is canceled, I see no reason why the system can't decide how many of the initial minerals/items have been used up and eject the rest, then place the first PENDING job into that free slot.
Why is that so hard to do?
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.01.03 20:56:00 -
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LOL at myself.... I put a shuttle bp in for 100 runs. 4 days later I'm still waiting for them....
Is CCP on the case?
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Mar vel
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Posted - 2006.01.05 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: Mar vel on 05/01/2006 07:05:29
Edited by: Mar vel on 05/01/2006 07:04:20
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Dagam
Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure.
Which part of "don't put a bpo into research unless you actually want it researched" was so hard to understand?
Boohoo, you'll actually have to think and make decisions now. What a bummer.
Dude, quit being a jerk just for the sake of an argument. If you don't have anything constructive to say, then shut your hole. Most people are frustrated enough as it is; you're position on the matter was noted the first three times you ripped the poster a new one for questioning why an existing feature just disappeared. The feature has a valid purpose, and it should be fixed. If you disagree, then fine, but do it politely. Perhaps the issue is that you're so impressed with yourself that you consider everyone else inferior, or better yet, perhaps you don;t actually research or build anything, which sounds more to the point. w**ker. 
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Duraeli
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:46:00 -
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Not that anyone cares about my opinion, but I at least see some viable reason CCP didn't add a cancel button to jobs in process. As far as I can tell it is a good way to keep people from holding a single lab slot hostage by placing an absolutely useless print in research for an extremely extended period of time and just canceling every time they want to use the slot. Heralds back to the old days where labs were being sold for 15m a pop.
Pending jobs though I think should have a cancel button...as the lab is not currently being used by the researcher/manufacturer.
That's just my $0.02 though.
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Malarkey
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:00:00 -
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I put a T1 BPO in for Material research up to ME 10. I searched high and low for a free slot and eventually find one in a less-than-popular region. When I arrived at the station, the slot was still free, but when i placed the BPO in the assembly line and accepted the "quote" it subsequently showed as "pending". Presumably soemone had just beaten me to the one free slot in that station. I now have to wait four days in the pending queue before I can start that ME research because of the lack of a cancel button. I journeyed on in my cov ops ship to a 0.2 system that had a number of slots free. They were finished and the slots made available again within 24 hours.
This sad little tale just illustrates the problems that the current situation of too few slots and lack of a cancel button can create.  (All say ah!)
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Erfnam
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Abigail101
Originally by: Vishnej
The devs said that the lack of a cancel button is NOT an accident.
They also said that manufacturing/research jobs much longer than a week should not be going through, there's supposed to be a restriction there.
Researching Tremor small t2 projectile ammo to me1 takes 15 days so I'm not sure how that can work out (Think a one run * 1500 copy is 3 months)
There is supposed to be a restriction in place to prevent jobs from blocking up a slot for too long, but I don't think it applies for single run items. I thought all t2 ammo had a batch size of 5000, so that 3 month bpc can produce 7.5m charges? Seems fair to me.
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Abigail101
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Posted - 2006.01.06 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Erfnam
Originally by: Abigail101
Originally by: Vishnej
The devs said that the lack of a cancel button is NOT an accident.
They also said that manufacturing/research jobs much longer than a week should not be going through, there's supposed to be a restriction there.
Researching Tremor small t2 projectile ammo to me1 takes 15 days so I'm not sure how that can work out (Think a one run * 1500 copy is 3 months)
There is supposed to be a restriction in place to prevent jobs from blocking up a slot for too long, but I don't think it applies for single run items. I thought all t2 ammo had a batch size of 5000, so that 3 month bpc can produce 7.5m charges? Seems fair to me.
Must admit I hadn't realised initially the production runs of the t2 ammo bpc's, but some small proj t2 ammo copy times are 3 years and I hear that some large t2 hybrid are only a week, just seems a bit hit and miss to me
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Savatage CMA
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Posted - 2006.01.06 15:53:00 -
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You cant research anything for over 30days so if you accidently add a 0 and take to to 100 runs it wont let you if it goes over 30 days. Cancel button doesnt really need to be there, your just out a max of 30 days and your still get the research so your not really out anything.
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Natashya
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Posted - 2006.01.08 01:38:00 -
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Interesting, but you can then perhaps tell me why I have a pending ME of only 2 frigging points sitting at a queue wait pending of 35 days? 30 days is not the max it will go, it goes well beyond that.
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Seiver D'amross
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Posted - 2006.01.08 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Dagam
Actually there is every reason for one. Before you could research a BPO for 100 runs and cancel it at your leisure.
Which part of "don't put a bpo into research unless you actually want it researched" was so hard to understand?
Boohoo, you'll actually have to think and make decisions now. What a bummer.
dude chill
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