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HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:37:00 -
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I like it, but why is the Diemos(t) loosing tank? |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.30 18:28:00 -
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The Vaga is getting buffed at nearly everything and people are complaining about how worthless it is now; I remain confused. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:14:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:HiddenPorpoise wrote:The Vaga is getting buffed at nearly everything and people are complaining about how worthless it is now; I remain confused. nearly everything what? He is being buffed on a signle thing.. on a scenario that no vaga pilot stick its vaga ever... It's getting a bigger tank, better fitting, more cap, longer range targeting, harder to jam, higher max targets, a 50% MWD reduction, and all it lost was 9m/s and a launcher that no one uses.
But yes, one thing entirely. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:42:00 -
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Why are people saying the Vaga only does 200dps? It does 250 (235 with barrage) with 220mm even without gyros and it has room to do 100 drone dps. It does 350 with just 425mm in.
And before I get the whole 'applied dps vs dps fired' talk I understand that. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:16:00 -
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NaK'Lin wrote:HiddenPorpoise wrote:Why are people saying the Vaga only does 200dps? It does 250 (235 with barrage) with 220mm even without gyros and it has room to do 100 drone dps. It does 350 with just 425mm in.
And before I get the whole 'applied dps vs dps fired' talk I understand that. Then why did you post? You claim having knowledge of the answer to your question. My question is: why people are using the stats of an essentially unfitted ship when seriously arguing that the ship is worthless? Fitted and at combat range it does 250-500 dps. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:58:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Please read my previous response, it does 150-200DPS at 25 depending on ammo loaded.
Thats awful, even more so when you consider it has the worst EHP of any of the HACs. If it has no gyros or TE, sure, but no one honestly fights with that. If you go quad gun lows you can do 270 at that range without drones(370 with), and that's with the second biggest gun size. The Vaga also has the highest active tanking and can recover the deference in buffer in about 30 seconds, while simply avoiding most of the incoming damage. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:38:00 -
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The only HACs that can do what the Vaga does are the Deimos(t), that people won't fly for a list of reasons, and the zealot, which is mostly too slow for it and is more for brute fleet dps anyway. ABCs are a whole other issue but the vaga is just about perfect for killing them. And remember, if the vaga closes the gap the ABC can't even hit it. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:10:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:To quote myself,
Because having 500 drone dps without spending a single CPU or PG is SO not worth having one less slot, right guise? 500? You, Sir, are doing it wrong.
I love the Ishtar but I'm not going to argue that it needs more than what it has at this point. One less high if it's going to get anymore mids or lows. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:32:00 -
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Drop bouncers at 100k and turn the MWD on and orbit at 7k. You are now hitting with 700 dps from a freaking cruiser 100k out. The Ishtar is getting bonuses to how most people used them. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:52:00 -
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None of the ranged HACs work very well solo, that wouldn't matter but the Deimos(t) sucks. Using a neut on a Ishtar isn't a good idea most of the time because it doesn't need to use as much cap as what is neuting it in most cases. Just because it's a Gallente ship doesn't mean you need to run active tank. |
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HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:12:00 -
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Lallante wrote:The equilibrium is still too high for how these ships compare to t1 How so? Before the market spike they were 135-160mil each, so they're about five or six times the cost fitted for double the tank and a nice dps boost. The markets always dive back in a few weeks. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:10:00 -
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I want to see how the artist formally known as diemost works before doing anything more. I would have preferred a tracking bonus over a rep bonus because I just want my target to die so I can run away from the backup. But if it ends up being a super charged incursus that's nice too.
Anyway, it isn't getting a pointless armor nerf, so I'm appeased. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.09 08:39:00 -
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Thanks to the rail buff the eagle is going from 'sucks' to 'meh.' What really works against it is that a beam zealot is better at doing damage until about 100k off and that is too small an amount of time spent moving for most fleets to give up on a higher base damage.
However, the eagle has secured the role of general use sniper in high and low because it can actually hit things that are smaller than battleships and that are orbiting at less than 30km. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:22:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:If you actually fly any AC kiting ship you know how bad AC kiting is in its current state, its outdone massively by lasers and missiles and is roughly as good as blasters This is why we can't have nice things. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:59:00 -
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Devon Weeks wrote:Well, at least I'm happy. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell me why I'm wrong. Mumble, mumble, Vaga, mumble mumble, kiting, mumble, "useless" bonuses, mumble, damage application.
Eagle and Mun are the only ones that aren't really nice at something now and all the Min pilots are talking about the 'Better at Everything, but Somehow Worse: Vaga.' |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:23:00 -
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Takanuro wrote:[quote=CCP Rise] I don't understand why so little is being changed on the Zealot. I've been looking at it compared to the Navy Omen and can't get to grips with this rebalance.
The Nomen is a lot faster (265 v 210), it has more shield (1800 v 980), more armor (2550 v 2250), it has smaller Sig (100mm v 125mm) and less mass (10850000kg v 12580000kg).
On the electronics side, Nomen can lock more targets (7 v 6) and has better scan res (320 v 306).
Nomen also gets the Drone Bay (50m3) whereas Zealot left with any utility here and gets the extra rig slot where it's still classed as T1.
New Zealot seems to have too many 'negative' stats compared to the Nomen that it seems like its going backwards where everything around it is/has been buffed.
Can someone 'sell' flying the new Zealot to me as I'd would really like if it can be justified.
Go make a build for one, you'll understand why FCs love them. Basically, beam fit they can switch to any range between 20 and 80km instantly and still tank, or they can pulse fit and have freakish tracking out to 30 and fit a bigger tank. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.08.14 21:21:00 -
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Psychedelic Faynin wrote:Fix the description.
Apparently the dev's are unaware of the requirement to have cruisers trained to level 5 to fly a HAC.
Minmatar Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire and 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage per level.
Obviously minmatar cruiser is always == 5, since it is a requirement to fly the ship.
Why am I explaining this to them? Calling it now: new player, hasn't looked around.
Eagle doesn't suck now and it counters sniper ABCs, it's just sitting in a very, very narrow niche. |
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