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xiphia
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:25:00 -
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As in the title really, just wondering if someone would actually trust one.
Someone told me sometimes pirates are the only ones you can trust. What situation would cause that? 
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:27:00 -
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Yes, they are one of the only groups of people worthy of trust. We have a few douchebags in our ranks but for the most part, we're trustworthy.
I say that because our loyalty and lack of nuking you is easily represented by a number, in ISK.
Noone you can trust more than someone you can buy.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:29:00 -
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some pirates can be trusted, up to a point.
you wouldn't trust them to move your BPOs, but you would trust them not to kill you if you pay the ransom
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:30:00 -
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if they say they'll ransom you, they'll keep their word. if they took your money and blew you up anyway, no one would ever pay ransoms.
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Willo Vasquez
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:30:00 -
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There are a few pirates known in game for being honourable, but I generally work on the principle of not trusting anyone I don't know when I'm in low-sec, pirate or not.
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Brisi
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Willo Vasquez
There are a few pirates known in game for being honourable, but I generally work on the principle of not trusting anyone I don't know when I'm in low-sec, pirate or not.
Quoted for truth. If you are in low sec, do not trust anyone you don't know.
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smashsmash
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:36:00 -
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It is all those omni-anti-pirates you have to watch out for. I remember once I was approaching a gate and had to ask an anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-pirate for a time out so I could count the number of anti's so I could figure out if it was a trick or not.
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Zag Stormchild
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:36:00 -
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You can buy trust...
But you cannot expect trust....
A pirate will respect his bargain if the ISK is right, anyone else can ditch you at anytime... why ? Because they have nothing to win or lose.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:39:00 -
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i only trust certain pirates, and they have my trust cos they earnt it LOL
those that honour ransom money are ones i will trust to let me past if i pay them.
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Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:39:00 -
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he my first CEO went piwate after showing me some of the eve ropes. One thing I have learned in this game the "real" pirates you can trust to be themselves... PIRATES BUT, they honor what they say, so yeah I trust em
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Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:44:00 -
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No trust for ANYONE especially pirates, until they earn it.
And just for the record, I've been ransomed three times. Once I self destructed (I'm not paying 5mil for a 1mil ship), once I payed and got podded anyway. And once I refused to pay and called in my huge gang and bashed the **** out of the foolish pirate. (next time, look at the corp of the 11 people in local before you pick on one of them)
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:46:00 -
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I never trust any pirates-- since all they want to do is blow up my ship instead of trying to ransom me in my experience. Especially E-R, CONIN, Clankillers, and the rest of the Syndicate wannabes.
At least in Syndicate, there are no pirates, only losers who camp with interceptors and run away from anything that isn't a lone frigate or a hauler 
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:51:00 -
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Pirates are the only ones you can trust? In Crime Online? Lol. Actually, in Eve, you cannot trust ANYONE, apart from your Alt's obviously or possibly blood relatives. Maybe perhaps your real-life wife or girlfriend, if you have that kind of relationship.
Quite often though, the least trustworthy people are the ones who blatantly go out of their way to befriend you, be nice, get "in with the guys" or otherwise slime their slug-like bodies down your Local or Corp chat window.
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b4be
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake
No trust for ANYONE especially pirates, until they earn it.
And just for the record, I've been ransomed three times. Once I self destructed (I'm not paying 5mil for a 1mil ship), once I payed and got podded anyway. And once I refused to pay and called in my huge gang and bashed the **** out of the foolish pirate. (next time, look at the corp of the 11 people in local before you pick on one of them)
I'd say this is my view as well. Not sure I could trust them to blow up my ship anyway. I'd probs take a run for it.
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xiphia
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:55:00 -
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Damnit, posted with my alt ^
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:11:00 -
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Sorry, the "trust a pirate because you can pay them not to hurt you" arguement doesn't hold water. That's not really a trust relationship, if you perceive that as a trust relationship you may have a bad home life.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gretchen Dawntreader
Sorry, the "trust a pirate because you can pay them not to hurt you" arguement doesn't hold water. That's not really a trust relationship, if you perceive that as a trust relationship you may have a bad home life.
the point is:
there are some pirates who will kill you if you pay.
there are some (most) who won't
thats the difference between a trustworthy pirate and an untrustworthy one.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:22:00 -
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Let me think... would I trust someone who wanted to either extort isk from me or destroy my assets... tough one to be honest.
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:25:00 -
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Trust No One
Keep your Laser handy
The computer is your friend
Have a nice day Citizen.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:28:00 -
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Yes, the only time pirates can be trusted is when you have bigger to show than them. 
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CaptianBlack
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:29:00 -
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rule #1. don't trust anybody...
rule #2. see rule #1..
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:34:00 -
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i got blown up by a gatecamper once, he destroyed my iti5 then left my pod alone (i think he could have easily podded me as well) when i finally was on the safe side of the gate i checked his info and his corps info... 'we ransom'
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Ransom? ransom what? u didn't ransom me thats for sure, which was silly as well cause if they had ransommed me i would prolly gladly have paid a few mill for safe passage, esp cause i had to go through the same system again.
yes, trust pirates or people that claim to be one, sure, go right ahead, and if u do, go buy this shuttle of me for 1 bill isk, it's a special shuttle which lets u into jove space 
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John BigBootay
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:20:00 -
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Pirates are trustworthy, just got to say "parlay" before they pod you.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:47:00 -
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DOn't trust people you don't know.
Don't trust people you DO know.
Trina Tron from Lordless and I get along well, but I'm willing to bet as we sat at a gate shooting the sh*t, our ships would be having a mexican standoff.
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Alain Josviar
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:48:00 -
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No.
Kind of a pointless question, since who in their right mind trusts anyone in an online environment if they don't know the person in real life.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:51:00 -
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Im trust worthy.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:20:00 -
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Pirates tend to keep their word with people they respect. Earning a pirate's respect is generally a fairly difficult thing to do. Generally, I would not trust a pirate you don't know well.
Ransoms are a different matter. If a pirate is in an actual pirate corp, you can trust them to release you after paying the ransom.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:22:00 -
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I would trust honorable pirates, i.e. the ones that dont just sit on a gate in a boosted scorp and try for easy ganks but actually go out and work for their money.
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Captain IceEye on 21/12/2005 20:05:10
Trust Pirates?
In general trust noone in EvE if you dont know them well.
Ransoms are a bit different. A Pirate that pods someone who has paid ransom for his life is hurting the profession.
If you get killed by a pirate (who is in a pirate corp) after paying him ransom i would report the matter to Eve-Pirate
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:59:00 -
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Yeah I do all the time...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2005.12.21 20:14:00 -
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If I don't know a person and I have to make an on the spot decision whether to trust them or not, good methods of passing judgement include looking at their name and amount of leet speak used. If someone has a retarded name and comes across like a d00d, chances are he's not to be trusted.
For example with escrow scams often I can tell its a scam without inspecting - the name gives them away.
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Enola Graeme
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Posted - 2005.12.21 21:55:00 -
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Trust implies taking a risk. Never risk anything you can't afford to lose. By this logic, trust is not so much based on the person you are trusting, but what you are trusting them with. So Trust Order of Opperations:
Can I afford to loose "this"?
Then and only then, is this person likely to be kind.
What this means is that if you can't afford or aren't willing to loose the ship and cargo you're flying, then don't trust even the most "trustworthy" person.
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xStormwingx
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Posted - 2005.12.21 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Enola Graeme
Trust implies taking a risk. Never risk anything you can't afford to lose. By this logic, trust is not so much based on the person you are trusting, but what you are trusting them with. So Trust Order of Opperations:
Can I afford to loose "this"?
Then and only then, is this person likely to be kind.
What this means is that if you can't afford or aren't willing to loose the ship and cargo you're flying, then don't trust even the most "trustworthy" person.
Agreed. I always fly ships that I can afford to lose, so I trust most people.
However for pirates, it all depends on how they gank me and any conversation afterwards. (if they're all cool about it and we get along well, I'm usually fine with everything. ) Of course, this still includes what I'm flying.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2005.12.21 23:08:00 -
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Trust them with what? My money? No I wouldn't.
Why would I trust anybody but myself?
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Zarithas
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Posted - 2005.12.21 23:23:00 -
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You couldn't trust a pirate any more than anyone else (most of the time). Would you trust a random person to move your Dreadnought BPO? Of course not, you couldn't trust a miner anymore than a pirate when it comes to things like that. But if a pirate ransoms you for a specific amount of money, and you pay all of the money, and you don't talk back, bring in friends, try to escape, or attack, then 9 out of 10 times he will disable all modules and let you warp away, or warp away him/herself.
The person you can trust the most (or trust at all, i'd say) is a real life friend. I am serious, even if you've known someone in a certain game for YEARS, if he/she gets the chance he/she will backstab you at your most vital moment, it happens all the time. Now a real life friend is someone you trust genuinely, someone who you actually know about. I personally would not let anyone touch my items who isn't a real life friend; unless it's completely necessary, then i'd ask someone in my corp, and just take the chance.
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